Re: [Development] Not stripping our binaries by default

2012-09-14 Thread lars.knoll
Fine for me. I mainly wanted to make sure we understand what we're targeting with the default configuration. But we at least need some ways in the build system to strip or separate the debug info. Cheers, Lars On Sep 14, 2012, at 7:15 AM, ext simon.hausm...@nokia.com wrote: > I think that o

Re: [Development] Not stripping our binaries by default

2012-09-13 Thread lars.knoll
On Sep 13, 2012, at 11:21 PM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: > On quinta-feira, 13 de setembro de 2012 20.57.58, lars.kn...@nokia.com wrote: >> Depends on who we're optimising for. If we don't strip by default we might >> get lots of complaints from people compiling source packages on their own >>

Re: [Development] Not stripping our binaries by default

2012-09-13 Thread lars.knoll
On Sep 13, 2012, at 10:21 PM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: > I was trying to make Qt 5 packages for Tizen when I realised that the > automated build scripts that generate debuginfo packages were failing, saying > that our libraries are already stripped. > > Turns out that qmake generates "stri

[Development] Qt 4.8.3 released

2012-09-13 Thread lars.knoll
Hi! I'm happy to announce that Qt 4.8.3 has just been released. See the blog on http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2012/09/13/qt-4-8-3-released/ and the changes file at http://qt-project.org/uploads/community_updates/changes-4.8.3 for details. Enjoy! Lars ___

Re: [Development] QJsonPrivate::Parser::parseObject broken on big endian

2012-09-13 Thread lars.knoll
On Sep 13, 2012, at 12:56 PM, ext Konstantin Tokarev wrote: > 03.09.2012, 15:21, "Olivier Goffart" : > >> On Sunday 02 September 2012 23:10:18 Konstantin Tokarev wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> When building Qt 5 on big endian host (PPC) I've found moc breaking on Qt >>> classes containing Q

Re: [Development] Proposing reversal of the Math3D qreal->float change

2012-09-13 Thread lars.knoll
On Sep 13, 2012, at 2:07 AM, ext Romain Pokrzywka wrote: > On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 07:10:52 AM lars.kn...@nokia.com wrote: >> On Sep 12, 2012, at 12:27 AM, ext André Pönitz chemnitz.de> wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:34:50PM +0100, Sean Harmer wrote: On 11/09/2012 13:34, T

Re: [Development] Some more cleanups in qt5.git

2012-09-12 Thread lars.knoll
On Sep 12, 2012, at 1:34 PM, ext Joseph Crowell wrote: > I'm not sure if Jolla is using this specific functionality but I am > certain that they are using Qt and MeeGo. Yes, but for now they are most likely still on Qt 4.8. I'm talking Qt 5 only right now. Cheers, Lars > > On 9/12/2012 8:

[Development] Some more cleanups in qt5.git

2012-09-12 Thread lars.knoll
Hi, I'd like to remove a few more things from qt5.git. * Qt PIM The module is most likely not going to be maintained anymore going forward, and lacks any usable backend right now. * Qt Service Framework and Qt Publish & Subscribe (both part of the qtsystems repository) Both frameworks where

[Development] QStyle maintainer

2012-09-12 Thread lars.knoll
Hi, I'd like to nominate Jens Bache-Wiig as the maintainer for QStyle and related classes. He has had this role in the past (pre open governance) and is both willing to take that role and IMO the best suited person for the job. Cheers, Lars ___ Devel

Re: [Development] Playground project request

2012-09-12 Thread lars.knoll
Sorry, this drowned in my mailbox. I'm ok with a QtUML playground project. Sergio, can you help setting it up? Thanks, Lars On Sep 9, 2012, at 6:25 AM, ext Sandro Andrade wrote: > Sending again to the mailing list, as suggested. > -- > Sandro > > On Friday 31 August 2012 21:53:44 you wrote:

Re: [Development] can I put a QWindow in a QWidget? or vice-versa?

2012-09-12 Thread lars.knoll
On Sep 11, 2012, at 1:38 AM, ext Alan Ezust wrote: > I am porting a Qt4 app that has a QMainWindow and a bunch of widgets > in a layout, one of them > being a QDeclarativeView. > > I thought I'd try putting a QQuickView in its place but I am wondering > what to pass to its constructor arguments

Re: [Development] [Mingw-w64-public] Fwd: Choosing a new MinGW for Qt 5

2012-09-12 Thread lars.knoll
On Sep 12, 2012, at 9:18 AM, ext Peter Kümmel wrote: > On 11.09.2012 16:55, kai.koe...@nokia.com wrote: >> >> There's nothing wrong with cross-compilation. But what we need first and >> foremost is a reliable, native MinGW environment for developing Qt >> applications, since the vast majority

Re: [Development] Proposing reversal of the Math3D qreal->float change

2012-09-12 Thread lars.knoll
On Sep 12, 2012, at 12:27 AM, ext André Pönitz wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:34:50PM +0100, Sean Harmer wrote: >> On 11/09/2012 13:34, Thiago Macieira wrote: >>> I propose we revert it. >> I propose we (I) fix the affected classes in QtMultimedia >> and Qt3D. I'm away on business this wee

Re: [Development] [DRAFT] Interested in Widgets Maintainership (was: Re: Nominating Marc Mutz for approver status)

2012-09-06 Thread lars.knoll
Hi Marc, On Sep 6, 2012, at 4:43 PM, ext Marc Mutz wrote: > On Wednesday September 5 2012, Sergio Ahumada wrote: >> On 09/05/2012 04:42 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: >>> It's been now 15 business days since Marc was nominated for approvership >>> and seconded. >>> >>> Whoever can grant him permiss

Re: [Development] Proposing Thomas McGuire for Approver

2012-09-03 Thread lars.knoll
On Sep 3, 2012, at 8:50 PM, ext Sean Harmer wrote: > On Tuesday 04 September 2012 04:43:02 Lorn Potter wrote: >> Hi >> >> I would like to nominate Thomas McGuire as an Approver for Qt Project. >> >> https://codereview.qt-project.org/#q,owner:thomas.mcguire%2540kdab.com,n,z >> https://coderevie

Re: [Development] QJsonPrivate::Parser::parseObject broken on big endian

2012-09-03 Thread lars.knoll
Hi, On Sep 2, 2012, at 9:10 PM, ext Konstantin Tokarev wrote: > Hi all, > > When building Qt 5 on big endian host (PPC) I've found moc breaking on Qt > classes containing Q_PLUGIN_METADATA with > > ASSERT: "idx >= 0 && idx < s" in file > ../../../include/QtCore/../../src/corelib/tools/qvarle

Re: [Development] Qt 5 beta

2012-08-30 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 30, 2012, at 1:41 PM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: > On quinta-feira, 30 de agosto de 2012 11.23.07, lars.kn...@nokia.com wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> the Qt 5 beta has now been released. Please find all the details at >> >> http://www.qt-project.org/wiki/Qt-5-Beta >> >> and my blog po

[Development] Qt 5 beta

2012-08-30 Thread lars.knoll
Hi everybody, the Qt 5 beta has now been released. Please find all the details at http://www.qt-project.org/wiki/Qt-5-Beta and my blog post at http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2012/08/30/qt5-beta-is-here Enjoy! Lars ___ Development mailing list Development@

Re: [Development] Maintainer changes to review: QMutex optimisations

2012-08-26 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 26, 2012, at 3:47 PM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: > On domingo, 26 de agosto de 2012 15.44.05, Thiago Macieira wrote: >> With a Double CAS, it might be possible to do that for the Windows and Mac >> semaphore solutions. PThread also allows for static initialisation, but it >> requires a

Re: [Development] Maintainer changes to review: QMutex optimisations

2012-08-26 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 26, 2012, at 12:26 PM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: > On domingo, 26 de agosto de 2012 11.10.10, Olivier Goffart wrote: >> I was in vacation last week without proper internet access. >> Many of the changes already had a +2 from me before, but it went away as you >> rebased or refreshed the

Re: [Development] Maintainer changes to review: QMutex optimisations

2012-08-25 Thread lars.knoll
Just went through them all. In general, feel free to ping me if you need a review. I might not always be able to help, but I'll try :) Cheers, Lars On Aug 25, 2012, at 9:40 AM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: > Hello > > While the discussion on the change to the commit policy is ongoing, I'd like

Re: [Development] Qt JsonDB

2012-08-25 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 25, 2012, at 3:48 PM, ext Mark wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:55 PM, wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've just pushed a patch to remove Qt JsonDB from qt5.git to codereview (see >> https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,33524). >> >> The reason for this is that the project is not done and

Re: [Development] Change / clarification to Maintainer's commit privilege

2012-08-25 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:33 PM, ext Richard Moore wrote: > On 25 August 2012 08:27, Thiago Macieira wrote: >> On quinta-feira, 23 de agosto de 2012 16.14.25, Thiago Macieira wrote: >>> Hello >>> >>> I'd like to offer the a clarification and request one change to the commit >>> policy regarding th

Re: [Development] Request: Mark classes with \module in documentation

2012-08-24 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:21 AM, ext Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:13:49AM +0200, Vandonderen Casper (Nokia-MP/Oslo) > wrote: >> What I want to do in QDoc is to automatically set the module to the value >> of the "project" variable in the qdocconf file (if no \inmodule co

[Development] Qt JsonDB

2012-08-24 Thread lars.knoll
Hi, I've just pushed a patch to remove Qt JsonDB from qt5.git to codereview (see https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,33524). The reason for this is that the project is not done and it also doesn't fit very well into the current scope for Qt 5. In addition, it will be difficult to maintai

Re: [Development] Volunteers for updating the readme-file

2012-08-24 Thread lars.knoll
There's actually two things we need: * A README for the source packages that explains how to build things * Something for the binary packages telling people how to use what they just installed. Ie: * Some nice welcome message * What can I do with the package * Where's the examples * How can I bu

Re: [Development] Scenegraph project in Playground?

2012-08-23 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 23, 2012, at 4:33 PM, ext Laszlo Papp mailto:lp...@kde.org>> wrote: Hi Gunnar, Thank you for your explanation. I have a question and a comment about the procedure in general: 1) Self-approval accepted from a Maintainer for a playground project? The description here does not mention th

Re: [Development] Request: Mark classes with \module in documentation

2012-08-23 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 23, 2012, at 1:58 PM, ext Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 07:30:23AM +, ext casper.vandonde...@nokia.com > wrote: >> example: >> /*! >>\class QObject >>\inmodule QtCore >> ... >> */ >> > isn't it a *tad* weird that sources in a modularized package need t

Re: [Development] How to build Qt5's docs?

2012-08-22 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:16 AM, ext Äijälä Johanna wrote: > Hi Casper, > > I'm still unable to create the docs, I checked that I have latest sources > from git, both https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,33187 and > https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,32986 are included. > > This is

Re: [Development] QMutex with pthread on Linux

2012-08-22 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:36 PM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: > Hello > > I've just done some benchmarking of QMutex on Linux, using the pthread > implementation instead of the futex one. > > Conclusions first: > > QMutex is optimised for uncontended case. It does that by keeping the d > pointer

Re: [Development] How to build Qt5's docs?

2012-08-20 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 18, 2012, at 3:19 PM, ext Loaden mailto:loa...@gmail.com>> wrote: I want to build Qt5's docs (qch), but failing always. make docs >>doc.log 2>&1 Error Message: threed.pro -o Makefile ) && make -f Makefile docs make[3]: Entering directory `/home/loaden/qpSOFT/Projects

Re: [Development] Qt5 Beta: any news?

2012-08-16 Thread lars.knoll
Hi, On Aug 16, 2012, at 10:53 AM, ext a.gra...@gmail.com wrote: > I was noticing that maybe we should update this wiki page > http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt_5.0 > that still talks about July for the Qt5 beta release. > > I know the actual situation is not easy and we are in a transition > phase, b

Re: [Development] Proposal: Qt 4.9 release

2012-08-16 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:29 AM, ext Stephen Kelly wrote: > On Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:53:53 R. Reucher wrote: >>> Well, we can start by listing what's missing. I'm not sure everyone >>> involved even knows of these features lacking. >> >> The missing classes I'm talking about here are: >> >>

Re: [Development] Proposal: Qt 4.9 release

2012-08-15 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 15, 2012, at 10:52 PM, ext Turunen Tuukka wrote: > > On 15.8.2012 19.30, "Thiago Macieira" wrote: > >> - we simply cannot detract from the 5.0 effort right now. All resources >> need >> to be there, except for 4.8 maintenance. > > +1 > > We are planning to make new 4.8.x patch rele

Re: [Development] Nominating Marc Mutz for approver status

2012-08-14 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 14, 2012, at 4:18 PM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: > Hello > > I'd like to nominate Marc Mutz for approver status. +1 Cheers, Lars > > He's been around Qt and C++ for a long time, having worked for KDAB for a > long > time. I actually don't know much of his background, I just rememb

Re: [Development] Maintainership for some APIs

2012-08-14 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 14, 2012, at 7:35 AM, ext alex.blas...@nokia.com wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: development-bounces+alex.blasche=nokia@qt-project.org > >> If nobody violently disagrees then I would update the wiki of maintainers >> accordingly to indicate vacant spots or new maintainer

Re: [Development] qtjsondb status in qt5?

2012-08-13 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 13, 2012, at 8:30 PM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: > On segunda-feira, 13 de agosto de 2012 09.07.09, Alan Ezust wrote: >> What is the status of QtJsonDB? Is it part of Qt5 or not? >> I am looking at the list of Qt5 modules >> http://doc-snapshot.qt-project.org/5.0/modules.html >> and it's

Re: [Development] Proposed solution to the ICU problem

2012-08-08 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 8, 2012, at 2:35 PM, ext Konstantin Ritt wrote: >>> Yes. We don't want to continue or begin to carry our own Unicode data, CLDR >>> and timezone database. ICU provides all of that. > > So, does this mean I should abandon my QUnicode* and QText* changes/branches? Depends on what they do.

Re: [Development] Setting up time-based releases for the project

2012-08-08 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 7, 2012, at 5:12 PM, ext Rick Stockton wrote: > On 08/06/2012 02:22 PM, joao.abeca...@nokia.com wrote: >> Hello Qt-ians, >> << SNIP >> >> >> * The branches >> >> The three branches define a progression of decreasing rate-of-change and >> thus increasing stability. >> >> - Fire hose - t

Re: [Development] Setting up time-based releases for the project

2012-08-07 Thread lars.knoll
In general I like the model. As Thiago said it's pretty close to what we've been discussing internally before we started Qt 5 development. I agree that we should kickstart the model after the beta release. Branch names should be more concrete and for outsiders to understand, so I'm with Alan to

Re: [Development] Qt Essentials

2012-08-06 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 6, 2012, at 11:33 AM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: > On segunda-feira, 6 de agosto de 2012 16.31.40, Aaron McCarthy wrote: >> As an add-on should Qt Location be moved out of the global namespace and >> into its own like other Qt add-ons? I know former Qt4 modules are exempt >> from this r

[Development] Cleanups for qt5.git

2012-08-06 Thread lars.knoll
Hi, I'm currently going through qt5.git, looking at all the modules. I would like to see whether all modules currently in there should be or need to be part of this set. Currently I can see two problems there. The first one is the fact that we have a few modules in there that are basically un

Re: [Development] Qt Essentials

2012-08-06 Thread lars.knoll
Hi Aaron, On Aug 6, 2012, at 8:31 AM, ext Aaron McCarthy wrote: >> as one of the first consequences of the situation in Brisbane, I'd like to >> do some changes to our list of essential modules. You can see the current >> list at http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt-Essentials-Modules . >> >> I intend

Re: [Development] Qt Essentials

2012-08-03 Thread lars.knoll
On Aug 3, 2012, at 12:25 PM, ext John Layt wrote: > On 2 August 2012 13:26, Thiago Macieira wrote: >> On quinta-feira, 2 de agosto de 2012 12.02.45, lars.kn...@nokia.com wrote: >>> >>> I intend to move both Qt 3D and Qt Location out of the essentials list and >>> make them add-ons for now. They

Re: [Development] Proposing Tim Jenssen and Niels Weber for Approver Status

2012-08-03 Thread lars.knoll
+2 (one for each of them) from me :) Cheers, Lars On Aug 3, 2012, at 12:47 PM, ext andre.poen...@nokia.com wrote: > Hello everybody. > > I hereby propose to grant Tim Jenssen and Niels Weber "Approver" status > in the Qt Project. > > Tim and Niels have handled a major parts of the developmen

Re: [Development] Proposal: adding Q_DECL_NOEXCEPT to many methods

2012-08-02 Thread lars.knoll
I'd say go ahead. Since adding it shouldn't change the ABI/name mangling, we can introduce this gradually anyway. Cheers, Lars On Aug 2, 2012, at 2:50 PM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: > I'd like to propose we add Q_DECL_NOEXCEPT to many methods in our API. > > We already took the decision to t

Re: [Development] state of Qt's Australia office

2012-08-02 Thread lars.knoll
I talked a bit with the team in Brisbane this morning. Obviously the mood there is somewhat grim. Talking for me, it's really sad to see this happen. There are a lot of bright engineers working in that office and I have been working with many of them for quite some time now. I really hope that

Re: [Development] state of Qt's Australia office

2012-08-02 Thread lars.knoll
I talked a bit with the team in Brisbane this morning. Obviously the mood there is somewhat grim. Talking for me, it's really sad to see this happen. There are a lot of bright engineers working in that office and I have been working with many of them for quite some time now. I really hope that

[Development] Qt Essentials

2012-08-02 Thread lars.knoll
Hi everybody, as one of the first consequences of the situation in Brisbane, I'd like to do some changes to our list of essential modules. You can see the current list at http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt-Essentials-Modules . I intend to move both Qt 3D and Qt Location out of the essentials list a

Re: [Development] QtGui depends on libPlatformSupport.a

2012-08-02 Thread lars.knoll
QtGui should not depend on platform support. If it does it's a bug. Cheers, Lars On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:47 AM, ext song.7@nokia.com mailto:song.7@nokia.com>> wrote: Hi, >From the Qt build system, does any file decide the QtGui depending on the >PlatformSup

Re: [Development] QtCore is 2 MB larger in Qt 5

2012-07-31 Thread lars.knoll
On Jul 13, 2012, at 3:09 PM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: [snip] 57900 .obj/release-shared/qeuckrcodec.o:.rodata 0xe22c 0x0 134944 .obj/release-shared/qbig5codec.o:.rodata 0x20f20 0x0 133792 .obj/release-shared/qjpunicode.o:.rodata 0x20aa0 0x0 117842 .obj/release-shared/qgb1803

Re: [Development] QML TranslationLoader element?

2012-07-31 Thread lars.knoll
On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:54 AM, ext Jeremy Lainé wrote: > > Le Jul 31, 2012 à 9:34 AM, Alan Alpert a écrit : > >> On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:34:23 ext Jeremy Lainé wrote: >>> I have found QML's network transparency very handy for loading whole UIs >>> over the network, it makes it possible for insta

Re: [Development] Experimental Qt 5 installers by Digia

2012-07-31 Thread lars.knoll
On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:10 AM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: > On terça-feira, 31 de julho de 2012 08.54.56, shane.kea...@accenture.com > wrote: >> Or can we load it using dlopen like we do for openssl? > > We used to, but it was also hardcoded to a single soname version. If it > couldn't find th

Re: [Development] Experimental Qt 5 installers by Digia

2012-07-31 Thread lars.knoll
On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:49 AM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: > On terça-feira, 31 de julho de 2012 09.53.52, Olivier Goffart wrote: >> On Tuesday 31 July 2012 09:18:13 Thiago Macieira wrote: >>> On segunda-feira, 30 de julho de 2012 22.48.03, Leandro Melo de Sales > wrote: My linux distribu

Re: [Development] how to reduce the relocation <-- Use static qt libraries

2012-07-30 Thread lars.knoll
On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:34 AM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: > On domingo, 29 de julho de 2012 10.12.50, song.7@nokia.com wrote: >>> After changed with _protected_ visibility, that kind of relocation is >>> reduced, but I still don't know why more R_ARM_RELATIVE relocation >>> introduced. >> Ans

Re: [Development] Proposal - QtSerialPort graduation from the Playground

2012-07-28 Thread lars.knoll
Hi, On Jul 23, 2012, at 7:15 PM, ext Laszlo Papp wrote: > The QtSerialPort project was established a little over than half a > year ago [1] in Playground. The project had already been useful (at > least to me) at the time, but it has gone through a lot of bug fixes. > Furthermore, there were API

Re: [Development] Moving QWindowSystemInterface out of QPA

2012-07-23 Thread lars.knoll
On 7/19/12 4:45 PM, "ext Girish Ramakrishnan" wrote: >On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:16 AM, wrote: >> On 7/16/12 12:43 PM, "ext Stephen Kelly" wrote: >> >>>On Sunday, July 15, 2012 14:24:18 Holger Hans Peter Freyther wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:53:33AM +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: >>>

Re: [Development] OpenGL Support in Qt5

2012-07-23 Thread lars.knoll
On 7/23/12 10:55 AM, "ext Samuel Rødal" wrote: >On 07/16/2012 10:59 PM, ext Fredrik Höglund wrote: >> On Monday 16 July 2012, Thiago Macieira wrote: >>> On segunda-feira, 16 de julho de 2012 07.47.10, >>>gunnar.sle...@nokia.com wrote: I both like and dislike the idea. Like because it resolve

Re: [Development] Moving QWindowSystemInterface out of QPA

2012-07-19 Thread lars.knoll
On 7/16/12 12:43 PM, "ext Stephen Kelly" wrote: >On Sunday, July 15, 2012 14:24:18 Holger Hans Peter Freyther wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:53:33AM +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: >> > We have only two choices: >> > >> > 1) make QWindowSystemInterface a proper, public API class >> >> I thi

Re: [Development] Can we bring back QT += declarative?

2012-07-19 Thread lars.knoll
On 7/19/12 1:03 PM, "ext Robin Burchell" wrote: >On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 1:58 PM, wrote: >> What do we want to do in the examples in that case? Can we there still >>use >> "QT += qtquick1"? > >I'm not sure how that is going to be less confusing. I'd say it's worse. > >QDeclarative* classes => o

Re: [Development] Q_DECLARE_TYPEINFO and namespaced Qt

2012-07-19 Thread lars.knoll
+1 for fixing Q_DECLARE_TYPEINFO. Let's at least have the macros consistent with each other. Cheers, Lars On 7/11/12 10:48 AM, "ext Jedrzej Nowacki" wrote: > >It only shows how difficult is to work with namespaced Qt :-) In general >I agree with Olivier, let's fix Q_DECLARE_TYPEINFO, or just le

Re: [Development] Can we bring back QT += declarative?

2012-07-19 Thread lars.knoll
On 6/29/12 11:37 PM, "ext Thiago Macieira" wrote: >On quinta-feira, 28 de junho de 2012 23.53.51, martin.jo...@nokia.com >wrote: >> Reassigning "declarative" back to qtquick1 could be done. I'm not sure >>that >> is an improvement since we have QtQuick 2 in the qtdeclarative module, >>so >> it a

Re: [Development] Abandoning the container changes

2012-07-19 Thread lars.knoll
Some comments to the thread as a whole: Thiago did the call to not pursue the container changes any more for Qt 5 and propably had good reasons to do so. That implies that we'll continue with the classes we have now (yes, with their downsides in some use cases as well) for Qt 5. The containers ar

Re: [Development] Move QAction from QtWidgets to QtGui

2012-07-04 Thread lars.knoll
A few comments on the thread: * a QAction like class is needed, and yes it could maybe even live in QtCore * current Action is very tied to.widgets and i don't think splitting it up is a good idea * integration between a new action class and qaction doesn't require inheritance. * i believe t

Re: [Development] Move QAction from QtWidgets to QtGui

2012-07-03 Thread lars.knoll
Short note while on vacations... ;-) It was a conscious choice by me not to even try to split up QAction. QAction is very much bound to widgets and I am not convinced at all it's what we would need in QML. I think we would be better served in rethinking what is required for Qt Quick and QML compo

[Development] QtCS, Qt 5 beta and vacation

2012-06-26 Thread lars.knoll
Hi everybody, first of all thanks to everybody who came and participated at the contributor summit. I got a bit too much sidetracked and missed many of the technical discussions I wanted attend. But it's great to see the notes and summaries from the different sessions flow in now, and it shows tha

Re: [Development] Nominating Sean Harmer (ZapB) for Approver status

2012-06-26 Thread lars.knoll
On 6/26/12 11:59 AM, "ext Sean Harmer" wrote: >On Tuesday 26 June 2012 09:49:27 lars.kn...@nokia.com wrote: >> On 6/26/12 10:59 AM, "ext Giuseppe D'Angelo" wrote: >> >Well, 15 working days have passed since nomination + backing, and no >> >objections were sent to the list. >> > >> >I guess that'

Re: [Development] Nominating Sean Harmer (ZapB) for Approver status

2012-06-26 Thread lars.knoll
On 6/26/12 10:59 AM, "ext Giuseppe D'Angelo" wrote: >Well, 15 working days have passed since nomination + backing, and no >objections were sent to the list. > >I guess that's enough for welcoming Sean Harmer as a new Approver in >the Qt Project? :-) Yes :) Congratulations Sean! Lars _

Re: [Development] More CI people?

2012-06-13 Thread lars.knoll
Let's do that please. Lars On 6/13/12 11:14 PM, "ext daniel.molken...@nokia.com" wrote: > >On Jun 13, 2012, at 22:20 , ext Thiago Macieira wrote: >> tst_QDnsLookup was failing again due to changes to gitorious.org's >>public DNS. > >We can add a bogus qt-project.org sub-zone for testing purpose

Re: [Development] Proposed API addition to QTcpServer

2012-06-13 Thread lars.knoll
On 6/13/12 4:00 PM, "ext shane.kea...@accenture.com" wrote: >Background: >If accept() returns an error, QTcpServer may live lock. (QTBUG-24778) >The problem as described is that accept() returns EMFILE when quota is >reached. >On returning to the event loop, select() triggers again because the >i

Re: [Development] Nominating Miikka Heikkinen for Approver status

2012-06-12 Thread lars.knoll
3 weeks have passed, so congrats Miikka! Cheers, Lars On 5/26/12 10:17 AM, "ext lars.kn...@nokia.com" wrote: >On 5/26/12 9:57 AM, "ext jason.mcdon...@nokia.com" > wrote: > >>> I would like to nomimate Miikka Heikkinen from Digia for Approver >>>status. >>> >>> He has been working on Qt 5 on Win

Re: [Development] Nominating Peter Varga for approver status

2012-06-11 Thread lars.knoll
On 6/11/12 8:17 AM, "ext Simon Hausmann" wrote: >On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 09:02:00 AM ext Simon Hausmann wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I would like to nominate Peter for approver status. >> >> As part of the team in the University of Szeged he has completed the >>past >> few rebases of V8 in the qtjsba

Re: [Development] Q_EXPORT_PLUGIN_2 breaks source compat

2012-06-11 Thread lars.knoll
On 6/10/12 9:45 PM, "ext Thiago Macieira" wrote: >On domingo, 10 de junho de 2012 20.44.05, David Faure wrote: >> Is it really desired to break source compat so much, after making the >> promise of "almost no porting required"? Porting to a different plugin >> framework doesn't sound trivial. Wel

Re: [Development] Qt5 packages for Ubuntu

2012-06-08 Thread lars.knoll
Hi Zoltan, that's great news. Thanks for creating these packages. On 6/8/12 11:23 AM, "ext Zoltán Balogh" wrote: >On 06/08/2012 12:10 PM, a.gra...@gmail.com wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 8 June 2012 12:05, Zoltán Balogh wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I guess we all are very excited about the upcoming Qt5

Re: [Development] Why we *have to* remove codecFor... ?

2012-06-08 Thread lars.knoll
On 6/7/12 9:27 PM, "ext Thiago Macieira" wrote: >On quinta-feira, 7 de junho de 2012 11.09.52, 1+1=2 wrote: >> Hi Thiago, >> >> The real problem is caused by MSVC2005, as they can't generate UTF-8 >> exec-charset. >> >> >From MSVC2010-SP1, they provided a workaround for this: >> 1) Source fil

Re: [Development] Nominating Ritt Konstantin as approver

2012-06-08 Thread lars.knoll
Another +1. Konstantin has done a lot of good work on unicode and text handling over the years. Cheers, Lars On 6/7/12 9:43 PM, "ext André Pönitz" wrote: >On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 10:43:45AM -0700, Girish Ramakrishnan wrote: >> Hi all, I would like to nominate Ritt Konstantin for approver status

Re: [Development] Deprecating QFile::encodeName/decodeName

2012-06-07 Thread lars.knoll
On 6/6/12 9:21 PM, "ext Oswald Buddenhagen" wrote: >On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 04:51:14PM +0200, ext João Abecasis wrote: >> Thiago Macieira wrote: >> > So you're asking that filenames be passed on the locale encoding >>(say, UTF-8) >> > on the command-line, regardless of what the filesystem enco

Re: [Development] Becoming a Tier 1 platform and the CI System

2012-06-06 Thread lars.knoll
On 6/7/12 8:35 AM, "ext Rohan McGovern" wrote: >Molkentin Daniel (Nokia-MP/Berlin) said: >> >> > It means that the current CI infrastructure is operated by Nokia and >> > can't have build nodes plugged in from outside of Nokia premises. So, >> > if you need to manage your own build nodes, there

Re: [Development] Help reviewing my own changes to QSharedPointer

2012-06-06 Thread lars.knoll
On 6/7/12 12:55 AM, "ext Thiago Macieira" wrote: >On quarta-feira, 6 de junho de 2012 21.56.16, lars.kn...@nokia.com wrote: >> >https://codereview.qt-project.org/26981-Optimisedeletion >> >> I might be wrong (getting tired), but I think this reintroduces the >> problem with forward declared poin

Re: [Development] Help reviewing my own changes to QSharedPointer

2012-06-06 Thread lars.knoll
On 6/6/12 6:53 PM, "ext Thiago Macieira" wrote: >Cf. thread: Maintainer "TrustMes" >http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2012-April/002930.html >http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.qt.devel/2953 > >I need help again reviewing my own changes. Since I am the maintainer of >the >m

Re: [Development] Help reviewing my own changes to QSharedPointer

2012-06-06 Thread lars.knoll
On 6/6/12 7:33 PM, "ext Thiago Macieira" wrote: >On quarta-feira, 6 de junho de 2012 17.08.29, lars.kn...@nokia.com wrote: >> Can't remember that you asked me. I can certainly review them if you >>don't >> have anyone else. I'll do so later tonight. > >I asked on IRC how you felt about reviewing

Re: [Development] Help reviewing my own changes to QSharedPointer

2012-06-06 Thread lars.knoll
Can't remember that you asked me. I can certainly review them if you don't have anyone else. I'll do so later tonight. Cheers, Lars On 06.06.12 18:54 ext Thiago Macieira wrote: Cf. thread: Maintainer "TrustMes" http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2012-April/002930.html http://l

Re: [Development] Becoming a Tier 1 platform and the CI System

2012-06-06 Thread lars.knoll
On 6/6/12 1:56 PM, "ext Sean Harmer" wrote: >On Wednesday 06 June 2012 13:22:21 Thiago Macieira wrote: >> On quarta-feira, 6 de junho de 2012 11.46.18, Sean Harmer wrote: >> > What other gates do we also have to pass to promote QNX to Tier 1? >> >> The major target is that, at release time, you'

Re: [Development] 'assistant' should goto qtdoc-module, and 'linguist' should move to qttranslations-module

2012-06-04 Thread lars.knoll
I think this is the doing things the wrong way round. There's exactly one small designer plugin depending on QtQuick1 (and pulling in qtscript), so what we should rather do is to move that plugin out of qttools and into qtquick1. That should reverse the dependency order and would be a lot more logi

Re: [Development] Alpha 2 this week or skip it

2012-05-31 Thread lars.knoll
Unfortunately it took a bit longer than I thought to get binary packages. So yes, an alpha 2 might not make as much sense anymore as we had hoped for. Now that we have the packages, I think our main focus should be to get the beta out. From the implementation side I think we're in an ok shape for

Re: [Development] Qt and /Zwchar_t- flag for MSVC

2012-05-31 Thread lars.knoll
Sounds like something left over from the past. I agree that we should fix that for 5.0. Cheers, Lars On 5/31/12 12:46 PM, "ext Flex Ferrum" wrote: >Hello all. > >Does anybody know why Qt still shipping with /Zwchar_t- flag for MSVC >compilers (even for MSVC 2010)? It makes difficult to use Qt w

Re: [Development] qpa api - current status

2012-05-29 Thread lars.knoll
On 5/29/12 8:22 AM, "ext Jørgen Lind" wrote: >Hi >> 6. Rename the handle() to platformXXX() since it's easy to educate >> that anything that has platform in it is out of reach of app >> developers. >> Status: In progress, I am atm, marking handle() as obsolete and as an >> alias to platformXXX().

Re: [Development] Having a reserved value for the platform enums was RE: Binary incompatible changes to Qt 4.8

2012-05-26 Thread lars.knoll
On 5/24/12 1:31 PM, "ext Shaw Andy" wrote: >[snip] > >> >The warning needs to go away, at least, provided that Qt *is* tested on >> >Windows 8. Whether we add the enum or not, that's a bit orthogonal. >> >> Yes, the warning needs to be fixed. >> >> But I don't have any problems with adding the

Re: [Development] Nominating Miikka Heikkinen for Approver status

2012-05-26 Thread lars.knoll
On 5/26/12 9:57 AM, "ext jason.mcdon...@nokia.com" wrote: >> I would like to nomimate Miikka Heikkinen from Digia for Approver >>status. >> >> He has been working on Qt 5 on Windows for a quite a while and has fixed >> numerous issues and failing test cases in the areas QWidget/QWindow, >> fonts,

Re: [Development] Should we change the default codec of QTextStream to UTF-8?

2012-05-25 Thread lars.knoll
On 5/25/12 9:37 AM, "ext Thiago Macieira" wrote: >On sexta-feira, 25 de maio de 2012 06.27.05, lars.kn...@nokia.com wrote: >> On 5/24/12 11:38 PM, "ext Thiago Macieira" >> >> wrote: >> >On quinta-feira, 24 de maio de 2012 13.15.16, 1+1=2 wrote: >> >> If we want to bootstrap tool such as qmake s

Re: [Development] Approver status

2012-05-25 Thread lars.knoll
On 5/25/12 9:41 AM, "ext Thiago Macieira" wrote: >On sexta-feira, 25 de maio de 2012 06.27.13, lars.kn...@nokia.com wrote: >> I agree with Andre. Currently we do not have any guiding criteria in >> place, so it's probably difficult to judge when someone is ready to be >> nominated as an approver

Re: [Development] Nominating Venugopal Shivashankar for Approver status

2012-05-24 Thread lars.knoll
Hi Jerome, I'd say let's give him a bit more time to show the work he's doing. So far his contributions aren't very visible in the community. He can already do reviews inside the project (giving +1/-1) to changes, something that should help you in reviewing. With some contributions and active hel

Re: [Development] Approver status

2012-05-24 Thread lars.knoll
I agree with Andre. Currently we do not have any guiding criteria in place, so it's probably difficult to judge when someone is ready to be nominated as an approver. We've now had one or two cases where people where being nominated a bit too fast for my taste. But I'd propose that we have a discu

Re: [Development] Should we change the default codec of QTextStream to UTF-8?

2012-05-24 Thread lars.knoll
On 5/24/12 11:38 PM, "ext Thiago Macieira" wrote: >On quinta-feira, 24 de maio de 2012 13.15.16, 1+1=2 wrote: >> If we want to bootstrap tool such as qmake support utf8 > >Why would we want to? One reason could be paths/filenames that are encoded in the .pro file. If we interpret it as latin1, w

Re: [Development] Binary incompatible changes to Qt 4.8

2012-05-24 Thread lars.knoll
On 5/24/12 10:25 AM, "ext Thiago Macieira" wrote: >On quinta-feira, 24 de maio de 2012 08.17.03, frederik.gladh...@nokia.com >wrote: >> The problem I am seeing is that Qt prints for every Qt application this: >> Qt: Untested Windows version 6.2 detected! > >Oh, that's sure going to get some peopl

Re: [Development] Should we change the default codec of QTextStream to UTF-8?

2012-05-24 Thread lars.knoll
On 5/23/12 11:32 PM, "ext Thiago Macieira" wrote: >On quarta-feira, 23 de maio de 2012 13.30.05, 1+1=2 wrote: >> In addition, this will improve the unicode handling ability of Qt >> tools with using bootstrap. Otherwise, tools such as qmake can not >> deal with UTF-8 encoded files. > >That is ir

[Development] New maintainer for QtSql and QtXmlPatterns

2012-05-22 Thread lars.knoll
Hi everybody, Honglei has so far been the maintainer for QtSql and QtXmlPatterns. He is now leaving Nokia to start some studies and has told me that he can't continue to maintain the modules. I've been looking around for two new maintainers for these modules and found two people that I'd like to

Re: [Development] Proposal: Change Qt Slogan

2012-05-22 Thread lars.knoll
On 5/22/12 11:39 AM, "ext Uwe Rathmann" wrote: >On 05/22/2012 10:53 AM, d3fault wrote: > >> Old Slogan: Code Once. Create More. Deploy Everywhere. > >I'm afraid the options will be: code twice or to deploy not everywhere. > >While Qt4 widgets were a full replacement of Qt3 widgets it is not clear

Re: [Development] Proposal: Change Qt Slogan

2012-05-22 Thread lars.knoll
I'd appreciate if you could stop your ranting on the mailing list. I believe most people here are happy to participate in constructive discussions but your rants will not achieve anything. Lars On 5/22/12 10:53 AM, "ext d3fault" wrote: >I think we need a slogan change so as not to lie to our u

Re: [Development] Mutex future directions

2012-05-19 Thread lars.knoll
A few comments from my side: * I am not a big fan of inlining the public classes neither. It feels a bit like over-optimizing at the wrong place. Reason is that this might make it a impossible later on to refactor our code. * It's ok to have some low level inline class for internal use if that hel

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