Re: [Development] Qt quick compiler impact on qmlbench.

2021-03-02 Thread Robin Burchell
think there may be some other benchmarks that specifically cover startup time, but it's been a long time since I looked at it, so I don't really know where to point you off the top of my head. -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no ___ Developm

Re: [Development] Changes to Qt offering

2020-01-29 Thread Robin Burchell
loper costs was seen as the better option, as it was possible to cut back on or outsource as needed. None of these things reflects positively on Qt's _sustainability_ to me, even if they don't directly speak one way or another about _profitability_. -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/development

Re: [Development] QTCS2019 Notes from QtQml session

2019-11-27 Thread Robin Burchell
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019, at 8:56 AM, Ulf Hermann wrote: > We're also changing the way views and delegate work. If you want to use > the "index" in a Repeater's delegate you'll have to declare that in QML > 3, using a required property: > > Repeater { > model: 10 > > Text { > req

Re: [Development] QTCS2019 Notes from QtQml session

2019-11-25 Thread Robin Burchell
On Mon, Nov 25, 2019, at 4:55 PM, Robin Burchell wrote: > The situation for QML3 seems to be much less clear cut (This got sent a bit too early (hotkey mixup). Pretend this was at the bottom of my last mail.) I can't really comment on all of this stuff individually, because I'd b

Re: [Development] QTCS2019 Notes from QtQml session

2019-11-25 Thread Robin Burchell
On Mon, Nov 25, 2019, at 3:53 PM, Ulf Hermann wrote: > Yes, but the problems with this construct are the same as with generic > context properties: Your QML component requires some context that it > doesn't declare. Therefore your code is not reusable and brittle wrt > addition of properties in

Re: [Development] QTCS2019 Notes from QtQml session

2019-11-25 Thread Robin Burchell
MouseArea { id: bar // is visible in scoped lookup (via 'provides' at the top) } } I guess you might also be able to use this for context properties - which suffer from many of the same unclear scoping issues rather than

Re: [Development] Views

2019-06-06 Thread Robin Burchell
de faster. > I have the feeling that some participants of these discussions thought > they joined an adulation club for Qt API lovers instead. I don't agree with this kind of attack, though, even if it was not directed at any one individual by name. Let's (_everyone_)

Re: [Development] Supporting helper functions in auto tests by providing throwing Qt Test macros

2019-04-03 Thread Robin Burchell
On Wed, Apr 3, 2019, at 1:24 PM, Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development wrote: > I may like the overall approach. However, this would imply that such > tests require exceptions / RTTI turned on inside QtTestLib / user code; > is it "OK" in the grand scheme of things? Note that testcase.prf already en

Re: [Development] Supporting helper functions in auto tests by providing throwing Qt Test macros

2019-04-03 Thread Robin Burchell
t exceptions unconditionally, but since it's "just" test code, perhaps this isn't that big a problem. -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/development

Re: [Development] Qt modules, API changes and Qt 6

2019-01-30 Thread Robin Burchell
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019, at 9:17 AM, Alex Blasche wrote: > I am clearly missing something here. Could you please outline why such a > monolithic repo would be good? As you pointed out yourself, the > conceptual problem that different libraries won't walk in lockstep > remains and segmented builds c

Re: [Development] Build system for Qt 6

2018-10-31 Thread Robin Burchell
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > on top of that there are long-term savings to be made from increased > productivity (which several posters to this thread have confirmed or > implied). that alone won't offset the cost vs. using cmake (it would vs. > developing and using

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-25 Thread Robin Burchell
n my view, a code of conduct is not a political tool, nor a legal document (if it is done well). It is a codified form of what is acceptable to the project, which at the purest form might be: contributions good from all comers of all types, and if bad things happen, here's how they are r

Re: [Development] Coin maintenance notification

2018-05-31 Thread Robin Burchell
https://testresults.qt.io/coin/ shows the last successful integration at ~4pm, and the integrating list is full again: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/q/status:integrating,n,z So I guess it's not fixed, or something else broke? -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no On Thu, May 31,

Re: [Development] QTBUG-43096 - QML instantiation performance decadence

2018-05-25 Thread Robin Burchell
On Fri, May 25, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Uwe Rathmann wrote: > On the Qt Conn 2016 Andrew ( Knight ) presented our very first results, > when comparing 4 different implementations of an average button. > > a) a button from Quick Controls 1 > b) a button from Quick Controls 2 > c) a custom button compose

Re: [Development] QTBUG-43096 - QML instantiation performance decadence

2018-05-25 Thread Robin Burchell
On Fri, May 25, 2018, at 4:31 PM, Uwe Rathmann wrote: > But at the time, when Controls 2 has been started everything was on the > table and - at least from the outside - it looked like a comfortable > situation for making good decisions. And this is what I had expected to > happen: What happens

Re: [Development] QTBUG-43096 - QML instantiation performance decadence

2018-05-25 Thread Robin Burchell
ou find surprising or unpleasant in the performance area, by all means, keep filing issues. Just because that one bug is closed doesn't mean the story is over: performance is a crucial feature in product development, and it is something that we must remain vigilant about, and work on c

Re: [Development] Nominating Kari Oikarinen for Approver Status

2018-02-09 Thread Robin Burchell
+1, and I'm surprised it wasn't already the case actually :) -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no On Fri, Feb 9, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Rainer Keller wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I'd like to nominate Kari Oikarinen for approver status in the Qt Project. > > Kari h

Re: [Development] QML and Qt Quick versioning of our modules

2017-12-07 Thread Robin Burchell
don't specify an implicit version themselves. That would reduce clutter for anything which actually has a qmldir (which tend to be most larger more complex things), maybe that's good enough? Then, an application template could use that out of the box, too. I don't know offhand how hard this would be, but I don't think it would be too difficult. -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development

Re: [Development] Updating community Qt4 port for OS/2 to Qt5

2017-08-05 Thread Robin Burchell
be a 1:1 port - but the existing plugins provide pretty good guidance on how to lay things out, and your existing code would be adaptable without too much work I think. Good luck, Robin -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no ___ Development maili

Re: [Development] [BB++] Now is 3.5x faster than Node.JS

2017-07-23 Thread Robin Burchell
ny such measurements). [1]: https://gist.github.com/rburchell/3026d3229d4211f71b947e3f9eee6d9f -- run with qmlscene, setting QV4_MM_STATS=1 in the environment, to get information about when the GC runs and what the impact is. Uncomment the animation & onCompleted hook to scroll automati

Re: [Development] Please add [ChangeLog] entries to your commits!

2017-05-31 Thread Robin Burchell
On Wed, May 31, 2017, at 02:50 PM, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 02:38:53PM +0200, Robin Burchell wrote: > > To me, it's implicit that each release will ideally have improvements in > > terms of stability, so I think that there's less point in foc

Re: [Development] Please add [ChangeLog] entries to your commits!

2017-05-31 Thread Robin Burchell
"sorry we released 1.0.0 yesterday, but it turns out that feature foo was totally broken, have 1.0.1 today to fix that" would be newsworthy, but "we fixed a crash that has existed for the past 3 years" - less so, but that's my own personal view. -- Robin Burchell r

Re: [Development] Introducing discussion about QStringFormatter

2017-05-16 Thread Robin Burchell
ceholder. A potential additional advantage of using braces (which you include in your examples) is that they are familiar from use elsewhere: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/txafckwd(v=vs.110).aspx. -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no ___ De

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9 beta4 available

2017-05-16 Thread Robin Burchell
Thanks for the report. I'll take a look at finishing this tonight. -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no On Tue, May 16, 2017, at 06:43 PM, Тимур Артиков wrote: > Hi, > I believe, QTBUG-60547 should be fixed before the release. > ___

Re: [Development] Introducing discussion about QStringFormatter

2017-05-16 Thread Robin Burchell
oid the conversion penalty. -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development

Re: [Development] Release plan moving forward

2017-05-10 Thread Robin Burchell
my opinion, and 5.9 isn't yet released. Just my (personal) $0.02... -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no On Tue, May 9, 2017, at 03:35 PM, Lars Knoll wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I believe I have some good news to share with regards to our releases > moving forward. As you all

Re: [Development] possible API freeze exception: would like to introduce QQuickItem::setAcceptTouchEvents() in 5.9

2017-05-10 Thread Robin Burchell
way, way more expensive which dwarf that cost in my experience... Robin -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no On Tue, May 9, 2017, at 06:43 PM, Shawn Rutledge wrote: > This is of concern only to those who subclass QQuickItem in C++ and build > custom items that handle touch events. >

Re: [Development] qdoc for C++ and QML

2017-04-25 Thread Robin Burchell
e handled "specially" in documentation. And the good old subject of "variant" functions like Item::mapFromItem, which will need special casing... -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development

Re: [Development] Exposing QMimeDatabase to QML; QtQml.Utils?

2017-04-24 Thread Robin Burchell
Core already sort of being one aside: at least then it's consistent). -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development

Re: [Development] Focusing bug fixes to 5.9 branch and patch releases during H1/17

2017-04-11 Thread Robin Burchell
able? How is it "a new way"? We have three targets: dev, the stable branch (more or less 5.9, since 5.8.1 is DOA) and the LTS (5.6). Adding an additional "level" there as you seem to be proposing with a "more-stable-than-stable" would be something I would consid

Re: [Development] QList

2017-03-20 Thread Robin Burchell
the two being allocated in separate pieces (given that malloc usually has some kind of book-keeping overhead). Robin -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development

Re: [Development] Calendar Systems proposal

2017-01-30 Thread Robin Burchell
here are some bugs related to this prototype, We have to solve that > within this process. As I said, as it stands, our implementation is currently not doing what you need - it would need to be fleshed out to actually use the provided arguments. However, I think that extending this

Re: [Development] Calendar Systems proposal

2017-01-30 Thread Robin Burchell
cma-402/3.0/index.html#sup-date.prototype.tolocaledatestring Disclaimer: I'm not intimately familiar with this API, but stumbled across it while looking into other possible alternatives for this problem. -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no ___ Dev

Re: [Development] New library in qtbase

2017-01-15 Thread Robin Burchell
s API on anything that did not have a QGuiApplication. I'd say that ultimately, requiring a QGuiApplication instance is a lesser evil than providing an API that won't work universally. -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development

Re: [Development] Branch request: wip/itemviews in qtdeclarative

2017-01-15 Thread Robin Burchell
mises here, just a rough idea would be a help so I can know when I need to start trying to pay closer attention to anything touching the area. Thanks again. -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development

Re: [Development] Branch request: wip/itemviews in qtdeclarative

2017-01-14 Thread Robin Burchell
y this early, but do you have any idea what kind of timeframe you have in mind for landing? Fingers crossed for "not 5.9"! ;-)) -- Robin Burchell ro...@crimson.no On Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 01:37 PM, J-P Nurmi wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to request a WIP branch for the

Re: [Development] Proposal to adjust release candidate process

2016-12-22 Thread Robin Burchell
My (slightly delayed) $0.02: On releasing in general: I would agree that releases take too long, often, but I am of the belief that a good part of this is a mess of our own making. For instance, due to an end-user or project requiring a specific version or purely out of fear that the next release

Re: [Development] Using semicolons in JS (QML)

2016-09-30 Thread Robin Burchell
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016, at 11:00 PM, Kai Koehne wrote: > Interesting. Indeed, I wouldn't have thought it makes any measurable > difference. IIRC we had a qml mimizer once, I guess this is still around? tools/qmlmin in qtdeclarative > It's certainly not that important to me that I will spend a day o

Re: [Development] [QML] Avoiding graphics flicker in Quick2

2016-07-29 Thread Robin Burchell
problem or bug with the QPA plugin you're using (you mention embedded, so I'm going to guess you're using eglfs or something like that) 4) Relatedly, a problem or bug with the windowing system (particularly if you're doing something rather custom. If you're using e.g.

Re: [Development] [QtMultimedia] Still is supported, active?

2016-07-21 Thread Robin Burchell
ll part of Qt. Long story short, I don't see that happening. I don't think it's actually written down or formalised anywhere, but AFAIK, fix version tends to only be set on bugs that are actually fixed, to indicate which version the fix is

Re: [Development] commas in ctor-init-lists

2016-06-01 Thread Robin Burchell
And another +1 from me. -- Robin Burchell On Wed, Jun 1, 2016, at 09:23 PM, Andy Nichols wrote: > +1 to specify the coding style to be the "butt ugly" one. > > I'm one of those who has (not so secretly) been committing and approving > the offending style after all

Re: [Development] Nominating Frank Meerkoetter for Approver status

2016-05-20 Thread Robin Burchell
+1 :) On Fri, May 20, 2016, at 02:49 PM, Simon Hausmann wrote: > Hi, > > > I would like to nominate Frank for approver status. He has done a fair > bit of surgery in the QML engine and also seems to be active on > qtopcua/serialbus. > > > I appreciate his input on my patches and I trust him to

Re: [Development] qtfeedback and qtdocgallery: status?

2016-03-22 Thread Robin Burchell
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016, at 10:37 AM, Hausmann Simon wrote: > I'm not sure what you'd like me to answer at this point. I think that it > is possible to fix the > build of these modules, the CI system is in place for that. However it > requires a fair bit of > work (ask Robin about qtmessagingframework

Re: [Development] API/ABI changes report

2016-02-05 Thread Robin Burchell
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016, at 05:58 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > - QWindowSystemInterface: binary incompatible (class is \ingroup qpa, > but not >in a _qpa.h header, therefore it's public API) I don't agree with this. None of the QPA files have a _qpa.h extension (and haven't since 2012 -- see qt

Re: [Development] Fwd: A simple analysis of apps using qtbase's private headers

2016-01-22 Thread Robin Burchell
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016, at 03:57 PM, PCMan wrote: > > The following three seems to be using at least qpa/qplatformtheme.h > > > > * KDE's frameworkintegration 5.16.0 > > * libqtxdg 1.3.0 > > * lxqt-qtplugin 0.10.0 > > > > Maybe for being able to create it's own theme? > > > > > Yes, but it's not on

Re: [Development] RFD: plugins vs QStringLiterals

2015-11-05 Thread Robin Burchell
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015, at 06:13 PM, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > Problem: performance impact, complexity of the atom/quark solution. > > > to lessen the performance impact, we could have a #define to control the > construction behavior of QSL at compile time. i'm not quite sure whether > to make th

Re: [Development] Proposing Markus Goetz

2015-10-27 Thread Robin Burchell
He already is (https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/admin/groups/12,members) - I guess it just never transferred to his other account. -- Robin Burchell ro...@viroteck.net On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, at 09:07 PM, Richard Moore wrote: > Not quite sure how Markus has managed not to be an appro

Re: [Development] QML import versions

2015-09-20 Thread Robin Burchell
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015, at 08:15 PM, Nurmi J-P wrote: > > I have some opposition to the idea because it entirely prevents us from > > making changes if they are needed. An example of this came up just the > > other day on IRC: Window{} has a number of major (or at least quite > > irritating) flaws. A

Re: [Development] QML import versions

2015-09-18 Thread Robin Burchell
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015, at 05:12 PM, Nurmi J-P wrote: > - QtQml 2.2 > - QtQml.Models 2.3 (++) > - QtQuick 2.6 (++) > - QtQuick.Particles 2.0 > - QtQuick.Controls 1.5 (++) > - QtQuick.Layouts 1.3 (++) > - QtQuick.Dialogs 1.2 You missed QtQuick.Window I think :) ... which brings me to this: > Is thi

Re: [Development] How to speed up QML for KDE5 without QML compiler

2015-09-16 Thread Robin Burchell
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015, at 06:03 AM, Leslie Zhai wrote: > For a new PC, there is no sharp difference between QML and QWidget, but > in a very very old PC, how old? about 7 years ago, QML is very slow! and > it needs to close all effects for KDE5, even that when clicked, for > example, calendar ap

[Development] Nominating Pier Luigi Fiorini (plfiorini) as an Approver

2015-07-14 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi, I would like to nominate plfiorini for Approver status. He's been quite helpful in working on Wayland (client & compositor) side things in conjunction with the Hawaii desktop (http://hawaiios.org/), and offering review on related patches. He also has knowledge of QPA thanks to this work, and

[Development] QtCS: Qt Quick Performance discussion

2015-06-22 Thread Robin Burchell
It seems that nobody took proper notes of the session (oops!) so I'm sending the notes Gunnar and I wrote up in preparation for the session. If anyone else has any recollections they'd like to add, please go ahead and do so :) = # Performance! * Why it's important * What needs to be checked?

[Development] QtCS: Discussion about deprecating things

2015-06-16 Thread Robin Burchell
Notes I took on the deprecation session follow. If I missed anything, or misrepresented it in the notes, please chime in -- I was pretty tired when I was writing this :) (P.S. Did someone take notes on the QtQuick Performance discussion?) == Introduction * Qt 5 is now a few years old, a lot

Re: [Development] qqmlengine/qqmlimport access

2015-06-09 Thread Robin Burchell
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015, at 11:44 PM, rpzrpz...@gmail.com wrote: > Another concern I have is the Render Thread issues VS Gui thread issues. Can you elaborate on this concern? The current description is impossible to address, which might explain the lack of response. -- Robin Burchell

Re: [Development] Future of Qt Quick 1 in Qt 5

2015-05-10 Thread Robin Burchell
On Sat, May 9, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Alan Alpert wrote: > > Can we declare the module in Deprecated state and keep bug compatibility > > with > > previous versions? If people are using it to transition from Qt 4, it should > > retain as much of Qt 4's behaviour as possible. That includes buggy > > b

Re: [Development] Future of Qt Quick 1 in Qt 5

2015-05-08 Thread Robin Burchell
For the specific case of QtQuick1, I'd say that closing any issues that aren't applicable to QtQuick2 (or won't be done) with a useful message explaining the situation makes sense. It might also make sense to close reporting of new issues for that component. On Fri, May 8, 2015, at 06:10 PM, Hausm

Re: [Development] Future of Qt Quick 1 in Qt 5

2015-05-08 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi, On Fri, May 8, 2015, at 02:39 PM, Frederik Gladhorn wrote: > One question is if there is any reason to maintain Qt Quick 1 in the > future. I know of some projects that are still out there using QtQuick1 (unfortunately). I think that moving to remove it now might be a little too quick, altho

Re: [Development] QtCore missing check for memory allocation

2015-02-27 Thread Robin Burchell
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: >> The argument is that it implies runtime overhead. See Robin's email for >> numbers. This is asking for making the code slower on the very devices where >> it needs to run faster. >> > i don't trust this number. i don't know how qMalloc

Re: [Development] QtCore missing check for memory allocation

2015-02-25 Thread Robin Burchell
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Konstantin Ritt wrote: > Maybe a bit off-topic: can we introduce our own (probably customizable) > memory allocation API, something like Apple's CFAllocator [1], and move Qt > internals to use it instead of malloc/realloc/free (and maybe instead of > some new/dele

Re: [Development] CI failing due to tst_licenses.pl test

2015-02-24 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi, Since nobody else has replied to this yet, my understanding of what happened with license checks is roughly as follows. I was not involved, so YMMV - this is all just gained from observation of what's happened - someone else please correct me if I'm wrong. a) someone, somewhere, made a decisi

Re: [Development] Item creation time in QML

2015-02-18 Thread Robin Burchell
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:41 AM, Andrew den Exter wrote: > First of all it's accumulative, any QML application is going to end up > constructing many items, hundreds, thousands even and costs, even small ones > add up. Secondly yes constructing and interacting with QObjects can be > expensive an

Re: [Development] Item creation time in QML

2015-02-12 Thread Robin Burchell
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Rutledge Shawn wrote: >> Being able to do 500+items rectangles in one frame is decent, but not >> awesome. Being able todo 130 text items in one frame, is less than ideal, >> given that we often use several text items per cell in a list or table. Text >> is prob

Re: [Development] QtDeclarative CI failures on Windows

2015-02-10 Thread Robin Burchell
Thanks. That's what I assumed, but it's nice to have it confirmed. On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Hausmann Simon wrote: > Hi, > > Friedemann made a fix: ‎https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/105750/ > > Simon > > Original Message > From: Robin Burchell >

[Development] QtDeclarative CI failures on Windows

2015-02-10 Thread Robin Burchell
Can someone with Windows please take a look at unblocking qtdeclarative/dev, or give an update if you know what's going on? It's been failing since February 5[1](!). The failures are consistent. See some examples: [2][3][4]. In light of it being just under a week since the last successful integra

[Development] Requesting a break in behavior in QML Text element

2015-01-29 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi, Rationale: Text.AutoFormat is a terrible misfeature in almost every case out there. Design implications: In many cases in applications, a format is not specified, with the assumption that only plain text will ever be displayed because that is all it is ever tested with. In actuality, this is

Re: [Development] QtWayland windows decoration on the Raspberry Pi

2014-12-15 Thread Robin Burchell
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Massimo Callegari wrote: > So, my application runs on Maynard using "-platform wayland" but all the > windows are not decorated. So basically I have the same result as if I run > it on eglfs. See: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/93128/ > So, my questions t

Re: [Development] Platform maintainers

2014-09-26 Thread Robin Burchell
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Nichols Andy wrote: > My suggestions for replacement would be either Giulio Camuffo who as been > main driver for the QtWayland project this year, or Jorgen Lind who was the > previous QtWayland maintainer and who still has a deep interest in the > project. +1

Re: [Development] Requesting removal of qtjsondb

2014-09-19 Thread Robin Burchell
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Jeremy wrote: > It’s the repo hosted on qt-project.org and clones such as qt.gitorious.org > that I’m wondering about. Leaving qtjsondb at its current URL is not what I > would expect for something that is not part of the Qt 5 bundle. Do we start a > qt-abandon

Re: [Development] Linux release binaries too old

2014-08-26 Thread Robin Burchell
Thanks for starting the thread, Alex. I still hadn't had time to really do my homework on my side of this problem, apart from talking to you :-) On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Blasche Alexander wrote: > It is my understanding that the current Linux release binary packages are > built on Ubuntu

Re: [Development] Looking for a way to batch-upload independent changes to Gerrit

2014-08-18 Thread Robin Burchell
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: > Is it a problem that they have fake dependencies listed in gerrit? I often > upload lists of patches like that, and land them out of order as they get > reviewed. It appears to pose no particular problem, except that it can look a >

Re: [Development] Looking for a way to batch-upload independent changes to Gerrit

2014-08-18 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi Marc, It doesn't specifically do what you want, I think, but you might want to take a look at Android's repo tool: https://source.android.com/source/developing.html https://source.android.com/source/using-repo.html I've been using it to interact with Qt's Gerrit for quite a while now and am p

Re: [Development] Wayland app_id

2014-08-14 Thread Robin Burchell
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Pier Luigi wrote: >>> Now the question is: how can Qt applications set this app_id? >>> >>> Since app_id should be the same for all xdg surfaces I would propose >>> adding an applicationIdentifier property to QGuiApplication. >> >> Why do they have to? Just like WM

Re: [Development] Wayland app_id

2014-08-14 Thread Robin Burchell
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Pier Luigi wrote: > This used to be the class in wl_shell_surface and I know the concept > exists on X11 as well (WMCLASS if I recall). WM_CLASS I think, but don't quote me, it's been a long, long time since I've looked into anything X11 related. ... a quick grep

Re: [Development] Cake and eating it too for qDebug printing to system log - https://codereview.qt-project.org/89357

2014-07-11 Thread Robin Burchell
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Hunger Tobias wrote: > I see why you would want journal data in your output, but I do see a > problems making that work for remote debugging/running. Even sailfish is > apparently forcing output to stderr when starting applications on-device > via Qt Creator. Don

Re: [Development] Cake and eating it too for qDebug printing to system log - https://codereview.qt-project.org/89357

2014-07-10 Thread Robin Burchell
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > == Problematic == > Qt 5.3 and dev are currently able to send the output of qDebug, qWarning and > the rest of the logging framework to somewhere other than stderr. That's done > on Windows, BlackBerry, Android, and on Linux systems with jo

Re: [Development] Enginio build artifacts and naming conventions

2014-05-28 Thread Robin Burchell
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Mathias Hasselmann wrote: > As a side note: A similar problem exists for the messaging framework > libraries (QMF). Its library names are: There's renames for that planned, but not yet executed. See the archives for my original mail on the subject. __

Re: [Development] Question about Qt's future

2014-04-23 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi, On 23 Apr 2014, at 14:14, cincirin wrote: Sorry for re-open this topic, but as someone else already pointed out, what do you think about the Unreal engine guys to abandon the unreal script which was used until now for many years ? I don’t think this topic is really suited for this list, bu

Re: [Development] Proposing Valerio Valerio (VDVsx) for Approver rights to messagingframework

2014-03-24 Thread Robin Burchell
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On quinta-feira, 23 de janeiro de 2014 07:37:14, Knoll Lars wrote: >> On 23/01/14 00:32, "Thiago Macieira" wrote: >> >However, knowing Valerio from the past, I would be ok with giving him >> >approver >> >rights throughout. >> >> +1 (inclu

Re: [Development] Proposal: "rebranding" QMF as QtMail

2014-02-17 Thread Robin Burchell
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Sze Howe Koh wrote: >>> The repository is currently comprised of two main libraries: >>> QmfMessageServer and QmfClient. I would propose: >>> >>> QmfClient => QtMail >>> QmfMessageServer => QtMessageServer >>> >>> Classes in QMF are already using the QMail* prefix.

Re: [Development] Proposal: "rebranding" QMF as QtMail

2014-02-17 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi, Sorry for the delay in replying. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Konstantin Ritt wrote: >> QmfClient => QtMail >> QmfMessageServer => QtMessageServer > Two modules in one repo (aka QT += mail messageserver), right? Yes. Same situation as it is now. > BTW, are you planning an API review/re

[Development] Proposal: "rebranding" QMF as QtMail

2014-02-10 Thread Robin Burchell
Hello folks, After some build system reworking recently and a little discussion amongst the interested parties (Matt Vogt, Valerio), I'd like to propose renaming QMF (Qt Messaging Framework) to QtMail with the longer term goal of making it a module of Qt properly - no longer a labs project. QMF's

[Development] Proposing Valerio Valerio (VDVsx) for Approver rights to messagingframework

2014-01-22 Thread Robin Burchell
Hello, I'd like to propose Approver rights for Valerio on messaging framework. Justification: Valerio has worked on (& with) QMF for a long time, on both the Nokia N9 and now with us at Jolla on QMF-on-Sailfish. QMF also doesn't exactly have an abundance of approvers, so especially now that I'm d

Re: [Development] frozen tickets on bugreports.qt-project.org in qt-mobility and qt-components

2014-01-20 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi Alan, On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Alan Ezust wrote: > Meego is still a "supported" platform, with Jolla and all, right? While we use a number of components that were part of or have their roots in MeeGo, Sailfish is a rather different beast, particularly on the UI level. Think of it as

Re: [Development] [Q] Good way to handle QEvent::DeferredDelete

2013-12-26 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi Elvis, On 27 Dec 2013, at 03:23, Elvis Lee(KwangWoong Lee) wrote: I’m looking for good way to handle objects which have called deleteLater. According to what I understood until now, there are 2 ways to handle them. One is making control return to the event loop. Another is calling QCoreApplic

Re: [Development] Nominating Fabian Bumberger for Approver Status

2013-11-19 Thread Robin Burchell
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Frederik Gladhorn wrote: > (did you know that improving unit tests is one of the most fun things ever and > leads to instant fame and glory? you should try it too some day) http://qtmemes.tumblr.com/post/67517056364/nice-try-fregl _

Re: [Development] QML and JavaScript extensions

2013-11-14 Thread Robin Burchell
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Topi Mäenpää wrote: > Or rather could, if the interface wasn't a moving target. If an interface is a moving target, that means that trying to promise compatibility for it is generally a bad idea. Once something is made public, you're stuck with it. For a very lon

Re: [Development] ABI change on arm*, call to distros' maintainers

2013-11-08 Thread Robin Burchell
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez wrote: > In Debian we are considering if the problem of breaking ABI without a soname > bump is worth the effort for armhf, but it would be also good to try and > coordinate between distros so as to try to keep binary compatibility betw

Re: [Development] Nominating Gatis Paeglis as approver

2013-10-24 Thread Robin Burchell
+1 On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Frederik Gladhorn wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to nominate Gatis as approver. He has been with us in the Digia Oslo > office for quite some time now. Gatis fixed many input/key handling and XCB > issues and started looking at sensors lately. > > Patches by Gatis:

Re: [Development] Nominating Andrew Knight (aknight) for Approver

2013-09-19 Thread Robin Burchell
And today marks weekday 15 since the proposal, with no negative comments. I guess that means it's time to congratulate Andrew. Can someone please grant the necessary JIRA/Gerrit rights? Thanks, Robin On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Robin Burchell wrote: > Hello, > > I'

Re: [Development] More on QDateTime / QTimeZone

2013-09-12 Thread Robin Burchell
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Knoll Lars wrote: > We might be able to simply cache the time zone offset once and cache it. > Then it should be at the same speed. This would also probably provide hidden wins in various places, making changes like b9ef4a9c3047228ec007ac81ff0a304f8cc274b7 in qtba

Re: [Development] CI false positive.

2013-09-09 Thread Robin Burchell
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 3:21 PM, BogDan wrote: > I'm trying to stage this https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,64292 > patch, but CI complains that 2 files don't contain "a license header". But > I'm pretty sure they do. At a guess, they are there, but aren't valid. Date ranges aren't a

Re: [Development] Nominating Thorbjørn Martsum (ThorbjornTux) as approver

2013-08-30 Thread Robin Burchell
+2 :) (and sorry, Steve, this time to the ML) On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Stephen Kelly wrote: > > Hello, > > I'd like to nominate Thorbjørn for approver status. Thorbjørn has been > contributing to Qt for almost two years, and has been quite active in the last > year in submitting patches

[Development] Nominating Andrew Knight (aknight) for Approver

2013-08-30 Thread Robin Burchell
Hello, I'd like to nominate aknight for approver status. Andrew has been doing some solid work that I've noted in QtWayland (and with wayland in general), and also appears to have some solid knowledge of Windows from his dashboard: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#dashboard,1001190. Also useful:

[Development] Tracing Qt

2013-08-23 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi, (apologies in advance for the wall of text) It's inevitable when working with Qt that sooner or later, you probably have a desire to work on tracing Qt - or at least part of it. Qt Creator's QML profiler is one such very prominent example of an area where this may be useful, but there are man

Re: [Development] Enabling -Werror developer builds

2013-08-20 Thread Robin Burchell
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > Right now, I've got most modules compiling with -Werror with GCC 4.7. I'd like > to start adding the CONFIG to enable the flag. > > Objections? One potential problem I see (I haven't looked at your changes, sorry, holiday and lack of time

Re: [Development] PSA: Qt Project IRC logs & statistics

2013-05-03 Thread Robin Burchell
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Alan Alpert <4163654...@gmail.com> wrote: > Given those guidelines, our possible answers are either "No (i.e. > there is no permission given for public logging)" or "list it in the > channel topic for logged channels (and possibly leave some channels > deliberately u

[Development] PSA: Qt Project IRC logs & statistics

2013-04-24 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi, In addition to hosting qt_gerrit, I have for a very long time generated IRC statistics for #qt and #qt-labs. These were perhaps not all that well publicized, but they did exist. After my recent server outage, obviously, this all got lost. I got around to restoring it this evening (see http://

Re: [Development] PSA: qt_gerrit downtime and forgetfulness

2013-04-18 Thread Robin Burchell
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Robin Burchell wrote: > - he announces gerrit changes in qt_gerrit Ahem. #qt-gerrit. I shouldn't be trusted with an email client as well as server management, apparently. :) ___ Development mailing list Develo

[Development] PSA: qt_gerrit downtime and forgetfulness

2013-04-18 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi, A short PSA: qt_gerrit had some downtime this morning (and is now back, at least in a few channels). The post mortem: some fat-fingered user of that server hosting qt_gerrit (i.e. me) made a rather serious mistake that meant the server needed reinstallation. The code for qt_gerrit was safe (a

Re: [Development] Access lazy Models from within QML

2013-03-05 Thread Robin Burchell
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Dominik Holland wrote: > Yes this makes sense and it's similar to my solution... But why do you > need to multiply it with 0.9 ? To start fetching (hopefully) before the data is really needed. Models may involve asynchronous access (network etc) which might take a

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