Re: [Development] Puzzled by desktop development priorities, Mac OS specifically [Warning: Rant]

2013-08-08 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
What we really need is to complete the Relocatable Qt project and use @rpath in the install names of Qt frameworks. Then macdeployqt would not need to exist, or would consist merely of a bunch of copy commands. -- Jake Petroules Chief Technology Officer Petroules Corporation · www.petroules.com

Re: [Development] New reference platforms in the CI for Qt5.2

2013-08-07 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
On Aug 7, 2013, at 7:12 AM, Sergio Ahumada wrote: > On 08/07/2013 11:47 AM, Sarajärvi Tony wrote: >> Hi all! >> >> We'd like to change the reference platforms a bit. We have new platforms >> coming in and old ones are just that.old. >> >> Changes in short would be to drop OSX 10.6 and Ubuntu 1

Re: [Development] Setting a Minimum Support OpenSSL Version

2013-08-01 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
I assume that this excludes OS X, given that the very latest version still only has 0.9.8y. Are there or have there ever been any plans to implement additional crypto backends such as CommonCrypto (OS X and iOS, the latter of which doesn't have OpenSSL at all) and CAPI/CNG on Windows? SSL in Qt

Re: [Development] [Interest] [Announce] Qt 5.1 released

2013-07-04 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
Personally I still think it would be far more logical to delegate the ANGLE vs OpenGL decision to runtime, by including plugins for both backends with all Windows distributions. Having different packages seems to confuse a lot of Qt developers and complicates deployment matters, whereas a plugi

Re: [Development] Why custom installer on Mac, why not using @rpath?

2013-06-18 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
I like this idea very much and think we should look into it further. There is a long way we can go with integrating Qt into Apple platforms better at every level and this would be a great start. -- Jake Petroules Chief Technology Officer Petroules Corporation · www.petroules.com Email: jake.petr

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-12 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
According to Xcode the default is libstdc++ anyways. -- Jake Petroules Chief Technology Officer Petroules Corporation · www.petroules.com Email: jake.petrou...@petroules.com On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On quarta-feira, 12 de junho de 2013 13.38.19, Bruning Michael wro

Re: [Development] OSX very strange focus problem?

2013-06-10 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
QtMacExtras is not integrated into Qt 5.0.2 -- it's due for 5.2, I believe. -- Jake Petroules Chief Technology Officer Petroules Corporation · www.petroules.com Email: jake.petrou...@petroules.com On Jun 10, 2013, at 6:14 AM, Jose wrote: > Hi, > > I have stumbled upon to an error that does no

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-05 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
On Jun 5, 2013, at 6:49 AM, Gustavsen Richard wrote: > > On Jun 5, 2013, at 5:26 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > >> On terça-feira, 4 de junho de 2013 19.32.57, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: >>> Well, Xcode 5.0 will be dropping support for GCC, so the only way to target &

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-04 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:26 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On terça-feira, 4 de junho de 2013 19.32.57, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: >> Well, Xcode 5.0 will be dropping support for GCC, so the only way to target >> 10.6 or below will be with clang + libstc++. > > Right, I missed

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-04 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
Well, Xcode 5.0 will be dropping support for GCC, so the only way to target 10.6 or below will be with clang + libstc++. Supporting 10.6 is a huge priority given that version has the largest market share of all OS X versions (about 35%). Do we really want to wipe out over a third of potential e

Re: [Development] Please warn of force pushes...

2013-04-22 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
+1 This would make quick code browsing much easier; Gitorious' interface is rather cumbersome. -- Jake Petroules Chief Technology Officer Petroules Corporation · www.petroules.com Email: jake.petrou...@petroules.com On Apr 22, 2013, at 3:44 AM, Qi Liang wrote: > At 22/04/2013 03:14, from Thia

Re: [Development] Status of QTimeZone

2013-04-15 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
I completely agree with that reasoning. Is it too late to restore the original behavior? I imagine the 5.0.x will be rather short lived with 5.1 coming out so soon so it seems like such a change wouldn't be all that terrible. -- Jake Petroules Chief Technology Officer Petroules Corporation · ww

Re: [Development] OSX: building against the 10.6 SDK with Qt 5.1?

2013-04-03 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
Can't you just set __MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED to 1060 with the 10.8 SDK? -- Jake Petroules Chief Technology Officer Petroules Corporation · www.petroules.com Email: jake.petrou...@petroules.com On Apr 3, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Josh Faust wrote: > > The question is why you want to build against

Re: [Development] Urgent gerrit change for 5.1: closing the Qt Quick feature gap on the desktop

2013-04-01 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
QQuickLiquidCrystalDisplayNumber, really? We aren't Cocoa devs. :) Is there a better name that can be used? "LCD number" is rather vague as it is; it could refer to a style like this as well, for example:How about, QQuickSegmentedNumber, as the digits are drawn in line segments? -- Jake PetroulesCh

Re: [Development] Proposition for a new Q_OS_ define

2013-03-25 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
On Mar 25, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Sorvig Morten wrote: > On Mar 23, 2013, at 1:51 AM, Jake Thomas Petroules > wrote: > >> I'd like to suggest that we add a new Q_OS_ define. >> >> Currently, for Apple platforms, we have: >> >> Q_OS_DARWIN >> Q_OS

Re: [Development] Proposition for a new Q_OS_ define

2013-03-25 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
On Mar 25, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Sorvig Morten wrote: > On Mar 23, 2013, at 1:51 AM, Jake Thomas Petroules > wrote: > >> I'd like to suggest that we add a new Q_OS_ define. >> >> Currently, for Apple platforms, we have: >> >> Q_OS_DARWIN >> Q_OS

[Development] Proposition for a new Q_OS_ define

2013-03-22 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
I'd like to suggest that we add a new Q_OS_ define. Currently, for Apple platforms, we have: Q_OS_DARWIN Q_OS_DARWIN32 Q_OS_DARWIN64 Q_OS_IOS Q_OS_MAC Q_OS_MAC32 Q_OS_MAC64 Q_OS_MACX The first three are very straightforward. Q_OS_DARWIN is defined for both Apple platforms, OS X and iOS, with sp

Re: [Development] Tons of warnings in the Cocoa plugin

2013-03-22 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
Not the only way... There's [NSApplicationDelegate applicationDockMenu:], and dock tile plugins (we should look into bundling a default dock tile plugin in Qt apps!). Dock tile plugins have the added benefit of having the menu show up when the app isn't open (more like Windows jump lists). htt

Re: [Development] [Releasing] Starting preparations for Qt 5.1

2013-03-19 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
I think we should just postpone the extras 'till 5.2, yes. QtWindowsExtras needs a ton more work - Ivan Vizir's big Windows 7 features commit is still not ready and likely won't for a while. I believe he said he is planning a second commit with more of them since thumbnail toolbars were left ou

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-18 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
On Mar 18, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Mediator Software wrote: > In "the real world", Qt on iOS is being used primarily to port existing > QtWidget > applications to the iPad, not to write new ones (nor to do anything on any > other > iOS platforms). There is a single customer using QML on iOS, once

Re: [Development] [Releasing] Starting preparations for Qt 5.1

2013-03-18 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
Don't you mean Mac and Windows? I thought X11 was added a while ago. -- Jake Petroules Chief Technology Officer Petroules Corporation · www.petroules.com Email: jake.petrou...@petroules.com On Mar 18, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Knoll Lars wrote: > On 3/18/13 4:58 PM, "Laszlo Papp" wrote: > >> On Mon,

Re: [Development] [Releasing] Starting preparations for Qt 5.1

2013-03-18 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
Don't you mean Mac and Windows? I thought X11 was added a while ago. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Knoll Lars wrote: > On 3/18/13 4:58 PM, "Laszlo Papp" wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Thomas McGuire >> wrote: >> >> QtSensors needs to be added to qt5.git, bu

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-16 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
Me again. I thought I'd announce that I've pushed the first QIosStyle commit to Gerrit: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,51167 I will be doing all work on the class here in the public eye until it is done and ready to be merged (hopefully before 5.2 at the latest, 5.1 if we're lucky). I

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-13 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
On Mar 13, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Bache-Wiig Jens wrote: > Exactly. Being able to do pixel perfect layouts within the Qt Quick designer > is one of the arguments against an IOS QStyle implementation. I would like to > be able to see and run my apps _exactly_ as they would look on the device, > with

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-12 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
I'm already working on some preliminary testing for QIosStyle. I don't know how long it'll be before I have something on Gerrit but it will come. -- Jake Petroules Chief Technology Officer Petroules Corporation · www.petroules.com Email: jake.petrou...@petroules.com On Mar 12, 2013, at 7:52 AM,

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-11 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
feira, 11 de março de 2013 07.41.02, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: >> Jens claimed on the blog that the native look and feel matters less in the >> mobile world because each app is fullscreen. I agree that it matters less, >> but I disagree that it matters little enough for us to ign

[Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-11 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
By the way, I don't know if you saw my comments on your "Qt for iOS Preview" blog post, but... You stated that because there is no HITheme-like API on iOS, that creating QiOSStyle would be "not possible". However, we can render any UIView into a buffer using [UIView drawInRect:] which we shoul

[Development] Situation with QMacCocoaViewContainer / QMacNactiveWidget in Qt 5

2013-03-10 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
Are QMacCocoaViewContainer and QMacNativeWidget going to be implemented in some Qt 5.x? I understand we currently have some implementation in QtMacExtras, however the header files are still there in Qt 5 Widgets, and documented (but you obviously can't link since they are not implemented) - htt

Re: [Development] Qt Platform Extras

2013-03-01 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
jake.petrou...@petroules.com Telephone: +1 (970) 587-3821 On Mar 1, 2013, at 4:24 AM, Sorvig Morten wrote: > > On Mar 1, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Jake Thomas Petroules > wrote: > >> Why are we discussing adding conversion operators from/to native objects in >> QtCore/

Re: [Development] Qt Platform Extras

2013-02-28 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
Why are we discussing adding conversion operators from/to native objects in QtCore/QtGui? The methods that did so were removed in Qt 5 in order to increase modularity, why would we go the opposite direction again? Jake Petroules Petroules Corporation (www.petroules.com) Email: jake.petrou...@pe

Re: [Development] Qt Platform Extras

2013-02-25 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
Why is that...? Jake Petroules Petroules Corporation (www.petroules.com) Email: jake.petrou...@petroules.com Telephone: +1 (970) 587-3821 On Feb 25, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Joerg Bornemann wrote: > On 25/02/2013 16:27, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: > >> I'd prefer Qt namespace

Re: [Development] Qt Platform Extras

2013-02-25 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
I'd prefer Qt namespace with no platform indicators, i.e.: Qt::toHICON Qt::toHBITMAP Qt::toCGImageRef Qt::toNSString It's obvious to which platform each function belongs; there's no need to qualify it beyond necessary. If WinRT introduces an NSString class and OS X adds HBITMAPs only then shoul

Re: [Development] QtWindowsExtras

2013-02-15 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
So right now we've got: qtwinextras: qt/dev qtmacextras: playground/master qtx11extras: qt/master I take it qtx11extras is pretty much "finished", so that makes sense. And seeing from the past discussion, qtwinextras being in qt on dev makes sense. But now qtmacextras is sticking out like a sor

Re: [Development] QtWindowsExtras

2013-02-14 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
ow created the repository. > ssh://codereview.qt-project.org:29418/qt/qtwinextras.git. > > Cheers, > Lars > > On 2/14/13 9:23 PM, "Jake Thomas Petroules" > wrote: > >> Ah, I see. >> I've only recently started contributing to the Qt Project so I

Re: [Development] QtWindowsExtras

2013-02-14 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
aszlo Papp wrote: > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Jake Thomas Petroules > wrote: > I was under the impression we were already waiting for step 4 since there > have been a decent number of messages on the mailing list regarding this > proposal, and everyone seems to know what the

Re: [Development] QtWindowsExtras

2013-02-14 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
ead the rules (and follow in the future): > http://qt-project.org/wiki/Creating-a-new-module-or-tool-for-Qt > > Seems, no maintainer gave a +1 yet. You need to get one first. :-) > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Jake Thomas Petroules > wrote: > As many OS/WM utility meth

Re: [Development] Qt 5.1 feature set and freeze date

2013-02-14 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
I would certainly like to see that contributed to playground so that all interested parties may contribute. Any timeframe on when someone can get the repository created? Jake Petroules Petroules Corporation (www.petroules.com) Email: jake.petrou...@petroules.com Telephone: +1 (970) 587-3821 On

Re: [Development] Qt/3D

2013-02-11 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
I think you are looking for: http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest Jake Petroules Petroules Corporation (www.petroules.com) Email: jake.petrou...@petroules.com Telephone: +1 (970) 587-3821 On Feb 11, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Federico J. Fernández wrote: > All, > > I want to know wha

[Development] QtWindowsExtras

2013-02-11 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
As we have a QtMacExtras and QtX11Extras, could someone please create a QtWindowsExtras as well? Jake Petroules Petroules Corporation (www.petroules.com) Email: jake.petrou...@petroules.com Telephone: +1 (970) 587-3821 ___ Development mailing list Deve

Re: [Development] Reviews needed before android integration in two weeks

2013-02-05 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
Surely you meant darwin-g++-macx. :) I don't think the Android mkspec warrants having Linux in it simply because it's such a radically different system in many ways. Custom C++ library, different executable format, custom packaging tools, custom UI stack, the fact that native apps can't even be

Re: [Development] Qt Windows Extras and Jump Lists

2013-01-24 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
to include in Qt code, which, I think, is some kind of hack. What do you > think? > > 25.01.2013, 00:30, "Jake Thomas Petroules" : >> Ah, I'm familiar with the project from which it was forked. If this is not >> the code that is going to be a proposal for QWindo

Re: [Development] Qt Windows Extras and Jump Lists

2013-01-24 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
e that is going to be a proposal for Qt Windows > Extras. > > 25.01.2013, 00:07, "Jake Thomas Petroules" : >> Interesting. Is your wrapper open source and where might one find it? >> >> Jake Petroules >> Petroules Corporation (www.petroules.com) >

Re: [Development] Qt Windows Extras and Jump Lists

2013-01-24 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
Interesting. Is your wrapper open source and where might one find it? Jake Petroules Petroules Corporation (www.petroules.com) Email: jake.petrou...@petroules.com Telephone: +1 (970) 587-3821 On Jan 24, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Ivan V. wrote: > Hello, Jake, > > The main "unusualness" about our wrappe

Re: [Development] Qt Windows Extras and Jump Lists

2013-01-24 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
Hi Aleksey, I'm not sure I follow - "we have an unusual jump lists wrapper" - who exactly are you referring to? If you could elaborate a little more that would be great. Thanks, Jake Petroules Petroules Corporation (www.petroules.com) Email: jake.petrou...@petroules.com Telephone: +1 (970) 587-

Re: [Development] QtWindowsExtras

2013-01-18 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
t 12:16 PM, Laszlo Papp wrote: > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Jake Thomas Petroules > wrote: > As we have a QtMacExtras and QtX11Extras, could someone please create a > QtWindowsExtras as well? > > Could you please elaborate abo

Re: [Development] QtWindowsExtras

2013-01-17 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
As we have a QtMacExtras and QtX11Extras, could someone please create a QtWindowsExtras as well? Jake Petroules Petroules Corporation (www.petroules.com) Email: jake.petrou...@petroules.com Telephone: +1 (970) 587-3821 ___ Development mailing list Devel