On Thu, May 20, 2021, 21:03 André Pönitz wrote:
> Works as designed. Freenode never endorsed public logging.
>
> Chat is for ephemeral contents, like normal speech.
>
I always chat as it it was logged, even in IRC: It is easy to log, so
people are logging. There may not be "official" logs, but t
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:23 AM Volker Hilsheimer
wrote:
> But the other question is who operates the service. It doesn’t matter if
> the service is Open Source if the community doesn't trust the operating
> entity.
>
Obviously, but Jason has a point. I can even give you an example:
When was i
Hello,
Il 20/05/21 20:46, Carl Schwan ha scritto:
I believe the best course of action would be to wait a bit until KDE moves
its freenode presence to libera (should happen soon).
Is this decision already taken? I didn't find an outcome of the
discussion on kde-community.
And then Qt can m
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:59:31AM +, Andy Nichols wrote:
> >> The chat channels are fragmented these days. There’s the Qt discord
> >> channels,
> >> QtMob on Slack, Qt and Advanced C++ on Telegram.
>
> > Are any of these channels endorsed by the Qt project? The IRC channels
> > are, that
On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 08:34:50PM +0200, Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development
wrote:
> On 19/05/2021 19:31, André Pönitz wrote:
> >
> > And now since we are on it: Can someone please remove the +r from #qt ?
> > All other #qt-* channels at FreeNode are fine without.
>
> You could just ask... on IR
Le jeudi, mai 20, 2021 2:18 PM, Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development
a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> On 20/05/2021 13:47, Alejandro Exojo wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 19, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development wrote:
> >
> > > - there's no registration required;
> > > - the $newthing has proven st
Am 20.05.21 um 17:16 schrieb Jason H:
(...)
I was there when Digia renamed themselves to the Qt Company*.
(...)
*if you wonder why I keep calling them Digia and not the Qt Company, it is
because the actions of late don't really feel like Qt of old (Nokia, TrollTech)
would have treated opens s
> On 20. May 2021, at 19:20, Robert Löhning wrote:
>
> Am 20.05.21 um 15:18 schrieb Alexandru Croitor:
>> Hi,
>> In my opinion this is a good opportunity to move away from IRC to something
>> more modern.
>> (..)
>> Matrix is open source, has Qt based clients, has modern features, and if
>> pu
Am 20.05.21 um 15:18 schrieb Alexandru Croitor:
Hi,
In my opinion this is a good opportunity to move away from IRC to something
more modern.
(..)
Matrix is open source, has Qt based clients, has modern features, and if push
comes to shove, can bridge with IRC.
Hi Alexandru,
could you plea
Hi,
One option (following a bit what Andy wrote below) would be to do nothing
immediately, but instead discuss this in the upcoming Qt Contributor’s Summit
to plan the next steps.
While there is currently a lot of turmoil around freenode they have not
disappeared or intend to do so (https://fr
> So, how many people and entities do we have in the Qt community that have the
> capacity, competence, and credentials to run a service? I personally would
> very much like to see certain aspects of the community at large to be less
> entangled with The Qt Company. The qt-project.org page is a
On 20/05/2021 13:47, Alejandro Exojo wrote:
>> Also, I don't understand how not having to register can be a
>> requirement at all, given that one needs to register, sometimes
>> multiple times, to use some of the other official channels. E.g. to
>> participate in the mailing list I of course need t
> Anyways: this isn't the topic of this thread. The topic of this thread is
> what to do with the currently officially endorsed IRC channels on Freenode.
Sure it is. My vote is to do nothing (stay on Freenode), and let our IRC
presence continue its fade into obscurity.
Then replace it with som
For mode detail about the situation, I consulted:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7ev8y/freenode-open-source-korea-crown-prince-takeover
https://www.kline.sh/
In the past my use of IRC was limited by firewalls. If at all possible,
whatever is moved to, I would request be web-accessable (https).
F
Il 20/05/21 15:42, Alexandru Croitor ha scritto:
Does this require the Qt project to host a Matrix server/entry point, or do you
mean to ask KDE to use theirs?
I was thinking of asking them to use theirs.
You know the follow up question: what's in there for KDE? :-)
Thanks,
--
Giuseppe D'Ang
Il 20/05/21 13:59, Andy Nichols ha scritto:
Are any of these channels endorsed by the Qt project?
The IRC channels are, that's why I'm raising the question here.
They probably should be. We list those in our "Online Communities" wiki. I'm
active on the Qt Discord and its quite lively and inte
> On 20. May 2021, at 15:38, Giuseppe D'Angelo
> wrote:
>
> Il 20/05/21 15:18, Alexandru Croitor ha scritto:
>> Given that KDE is using Matrix, I think it seems like a natural idea to join
>> their network, which would bring us closer and hopefully facilitate more
>> collaboration. I don't e
Il 20/05/21 15:18, Alexandru Croitor ha scritto:
Given that KDE is using Matrix, I think it seems like a natural idea to join
their network, which would bring us closer and hopefully facilitate more
collaboration. I don't expect a few additional qt channels will overload their
network.
Does
> On 20. May 2021, at 15:18, Alexandru Croitor wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> On 20. May 2021, at 14:18, Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development
>> wrote:
>>
>> Lacking some formal voting infrastructure, how do we take this vote?
>> I'd say, KISS: please reply to this email and express your preference.
>
>
Hi,
> On 20. May 2021, at 14:18, Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development
> wrote:
>
> Lacking some formal voting infrastructure, how do we take this vote?
> I'd say, KISS: please reply to this email and express your preference.
In my opinion this is a good opportunity to move away from IRC to someth
>> I did notice that the Godot (open source Game
>> engine) community have recently officially moved there development
>> chat to Discord from Freenode (IRC) and The server is very active and
>> vibrant.
> I believe only their development and contribution channel was /moved/, and
> they use a
On Thu, 20 May 2021 11:59:31 +
Andy Nichols wrote:
> I did notice that the Godot (open source Game
> engine) community have recently officially moved there development chat
> to Discord from Freenode (IRC) and The server is very active and vibrant.
I believe only their development and contri
Hi,
On 20/05/2021 13:47, Alejandro Exojo wrote:
On Wed, May 19, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development wrote:
* there's no registration required;
* the $newthing has proven stability, staff, resources, etc., and won't
disappear in a few months/years;
* ...
then anything is fine
>> The chat channels are fragmented these days. There’s the Qt discord
>> channels, QtMob on Slack, Qt and Advanced C++ on Telegram.
> Are any of these channels endorsed by the Qt project?
> The IRC channels are, that's why I'm raising the question here.
They probably should be. We list those
On Wed, May 19, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development wrote:
> * there's no registration required;
> * the $newthing has proven stability, staff, resources, etc., and won't
> disappear in a few months/years;
> * ...
>
> then anything is fine.
>
> All other things being equal, the
On 20/05/2021 12:09, Paul Wicking wrote:
On 5/20/21 12:04 PM, Paul Wicking wrote:
I’ve received emails through development@ from both Topi and Leena seconding
the motion.
...and those are in the archives, as well:
https://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2021-April/041242.html
Yep
On 20/05/2021 12:04, Paul Wicking wrote:
I’ve received emails through development@ from both Topi and Leena seconding
the motion.
Apologies! I didn't see any reply in the original thread, and assumed it
went unanswered. I see now the replies [1], they simply weren't threaded
properly (broken
Hi,
On 20/05/2021 12:02, lj p wrote:
The chat channels are fragmented these days. There’s the Qt discord channels, QtMob on Slack, Qt and Advanced C++ on Telegram.
Are any of these channels endorsed by the Qt project?
The IRC channels are, that's why I'm raising the question here.
Not to men
On 5/20/21 12:04 PM, Paul Wicking wrote:
> I’ve received emails through development@ from both Topi and Leena seconding
> the motion.
>
...and those are in the archives, as well:
https://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2021-April/041242.html
//! Paul
> //! Paul
>
>> On 20 May 2021,
I’ve received emails through development@ from both Topi and Leena seconding
the motion.
//! Paul
> On 20 May 2021, at 11:51, Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development
> wrote:
>
> On 20/05/2021 08:24, Alex Blasche wrote:
>> Congratulations to Johanna. Approver rights have been granted.
>
> ... not
> On 20 May 2021, at 12:17 am, Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development
> wrote:
> [snip]
The chat channels are fragmented these days. There’s the Qt discord channels,
QtMob on Slack, Qt and Advanced C++ on Telegram. Not to mention freenode ones,
that no one uses anymore, or the internal Qt Company
On 20/05/2021 08:24, Alex Blasche wrote:
Congratulations to Johanna. Approver rights have been granted.
... not to be the annoying one, but could there please be at least
someone else who could second this nomination?
Thank you,
--
Giuseppe D'Angelo | giuseppe.dang...@kdab.com | Senior Softw
>> Fra: Development på vegne av Jason H
>>
>> Dato: onsdag, 19. mai 2021 kl. 18:24
>> Til: Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
>> Kopi: development
>> Emne: Re: [Development] Changes to Freenode's IRC
>>
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> > On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 12:30, Jason H wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Aren't all
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