Re: [Development] Spam: Re: Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Monday, 4 January 2021 20:32:27 -03 Scott Bloom wrote: > The funny thing, I remember at a Qt Dev Days when Qt 5 was about a year > away. The "we will never do a Qt 3-4 type major version change again" was > said time and time again. > > Where functionality was missing, and no one was happy wit

Re: [Development] Spam: Re: Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Scott Bloom
-Original Message- From: Development On Behalf Of Kevin Kofler via Development Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 3:16 PM To: development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] Spam: Re: Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January Oswald Buddenhagen wrot

Re: [Development] Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread David Edmundson
I need some version clarification. Is Qt 5.15.3 in the "strict" phase of the Qt LTS? I have approved changes into Qt 5.15.3 under the assumption that we are still in the stable phase, as I have not seen any emails to the contrary. I assumed this as the QUIP [1] states: >strict: This period star

Re: [Development] Spam: Re: Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 07:55:10PM +, Volker Hilsheimer wrote: It seems that releasing a 6.0 was the best way to get more eyes and brains on Qt 6. one can always say that, but there is a balance to be struck, and it is *very* obvious that 6.1 will be what and when 6.0 should have been. w

Re: [Development] Spam: Re: Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Volker Hilsheimer
> On 4 Jan 2021, at 16:53, Bernhard Lindner wrote: > > >> I’m not aware of a decision to break binary compatibility in Qt 6.1. The - >> so far - last >> email to the respective discussion thread is >> >> https://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2020-December/040763.html >> >> and ne

Re: [Development] Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Alejandro Exojo
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021, at 2:13 PM, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTQAINFRA-4121 for anyone interested in > the inevitable community fork. FWIW, I created https://github.com/qt-lts-community a while ago in preparation for this (though I did not think much of this, TBH,

Re: [Development] Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Tuukka Turunen
Hi Nico, Basic “rule of thumb” is that if a commercial Qt license holder has access to Qt 5.15 in general, s/he also gets Qt 5.15.3 provided that the license is active at the time of Qt 5.15.3 release. Yours, Tuukka From: Wallmeier, Nico Date: Monday, 4. January 2021 at 17.33

Re: [Development] Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Roland Winklmeier
Am Mo., 4. Jan. 2021 um 15:57 Uhr schrieb Tuukka Turunen < tuukka.turu...@qt.io>: > > > Hi Roland, > > > > Just so that there is no misunderstanding Qt 5.15.2 release stays > available for all users, it is just the upcoming LTS phase patch releases > that will be commercial only. In essence for th

Re: [Development] Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Benjamin TERRIER
Le lun. 4 janv. 2021 à 15:57, Tuukka Turunen a écrit : > > > Hi Roland, > > > > Just so that there is no misunderstanding Qt 5.15.2 release stays > available for all users, it is just the upcoming LTS phase patch releases > that will be commercial only. In essence for the open-source users Qt 5.1

Re: [Development] Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Benjamin TERRIER
Le lun. 4 janv. 2021 à 16:06, Calogero Mauceri a écrit : > As far as I understand the next LTS release will be Qt 6.2. > If 5.15 will not receive any more patches open source users are left > without LTS till 6.2 is released. Am I correct? > > From now on, will LTS releases be available only for

Re: [Development] Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Calogero Mauceri
As far as I understand the next LTS release will be Qt 6.2. If 5.15 will not receive any more patches open source users are left without LTS till 6.2 is released. Am I correct? >From now on, will LTS releases be available only for commercial users? Thanks, Calogero On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 3:59 PM

Re: [Development] Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Tuukka Turunen
Hi Roland, Just so that there is no misunderstanding Qt 5.15.2 release stays available for all users, it is just the upcoming LTS phase patch releases that will be commercial only. In essence for the open-source users Qt 5.15 is similar to Qt 5.13 and Qt 5.14 (non-LTS releases). Yours,

Re: [Development] Qt 6.0.x releasing and Qt 6.0.x changes files

2021-01-04 Thread Edward Welbourne
Jani Heikkinen (22 December 2020 09:29) > Lars made a new proposal, see his comment in > https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qtbase/+/324440 > > Basic idea would be >* We will create one release note for the release instead of > separate changes file in each submodule >* Release not

Re: [Development] Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Volker Hilsheimer
> On 4 Jan 2021, at 15:33, Bernhard Lindner wrote: > > >> yeah, 6.0 is a joke given that you intend to break binary >> compat in 6.1 - that's the wisdom of linking r&d's bonus payments to >> release dates even for major versions > > Thank you for saying what no one else dared to say. I’m no

Re: [Development] Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Bernhard Lindner
> yeah, 6.0 is a joke given that you intend to break binary > compat in 6.1 - that's the wisdom of linking r&d's bonus payments to > release dates even for major versions Thank you for saying what no one else dared to say. -- Best Regards, Bernhard Lindner ___

Re: [Development] Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Roland Winklmeier
Am Mo., 4. Jan. 2021 um 14:38 Uhr schrieb Benjamin TERRIER < b.terr...@gmail.com>: > > > On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 at 14:14, Oswald Buddenhagen > wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 10:55:03AM +, Tuukka Turunen wrote: >> >With Qt 6.0.0 released and the first patch release (Qt 6.0.1) coming >> >soon,

Re: [Development] Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Benjamin TERRIER
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 at 14:14, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 10:55:03AM +, Tuukka Turunen wrote: > >With Qt 6.0.0 released and the first patch release (Qt 6.0.1) coming > >soon, it is time to enter the commercial-only LTS phase for Qt 5.15 > >LTS. > > > that's some brillia

Re: [Development] Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 10:55:03AM +, Tuukka Turunen wrote: With Qt 6.0.0 released and the first patch release (Qt 6.0.1) coming soon, it is time to enter the commercial-only LTS phase for Qt 5.15 LTS. that's some brilliant timing, given that no actual qt 6 release even exists yet. (yeah,

Re: [Development] Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Tuukka Turunen
Hi, This is well understandable and expected. The Qt Company is prepared to handle the Qt 5.15 LTS phase work. I wanted to ask if there is interest, as there may be some external maintainers who are interested in what goes into the commercial-only LTS releases e.g. due to having customers using

Re: [Development] Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Konstantin Ritt
Tend to agree with Thiago. If there is a decision to close 5.15 sources, there'll be no more work from external/unpaid contributors. Regards, Konstantin пн, 4 янв. 2021 г. в 15:21, Thiago Macieira : > On Monday, 4 January 2021 07:55:03 -03 Tuukka Turunen wrote: > > We can arrange access for ext

Re: [Development] Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Monday, 4 January 2021 07:55:03 -03 Tuukka Turunen wrote: > We can arrange access for external module maintainers to the commercial-only > repositories. If there is interest, please contact me or Tarja Sundqvist > tarja.sundqv...@qt.io who is the release > manager f

[Development] Commercial-only LTS phase starts: Closing the 5.15 branch(es) on 5th January

2021-01-04 Thread Tuukka Turunen
Hi, With Qt 6.0.0 released and the first patch release (Qt 6.0.1) coming soon, it is time to enter the commercial-only LTS phase for Qt 5.15 LTS. All the existing 5.15 branches remain publicly visible, but they are closed for new commits (and cherry-picks). Exception being the Qt WebEngine (an

Re: [Development] Nominating Max Goldstein as an approver

2021-01-04 Thread Alex Blasche
Congrats to Max, approver rights have been granted. -- Alex From: Development on behalf of Fabian Kosmale Sent: Monday, 14 December 2020 09:28 To: Ulf Hermann; development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] Nominating Max Goldstein as an approver