Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Kai Pastor, DG0YT via Development
Am 19.11.20 um 08:20 schrieb Kai Köhne: Am 18.11.20 um 15:50 schrieb Kai Köhne: FYI, we've been taking assistant out of Qt 6.0. https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-86746 . It's not depending on any particular Qt version, so my suggestion is to resurrect it (if there's enough demand) outside of

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Kai Köhne
> -Original Message- > From: Development On Behalf Of Kai > Pastor, DG0YT via Development > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 7:03 AM > To: development@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5 > > Am 18.11.20 um 15:50 schrieb Kai Köhne: > > FYI, we've b

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Kai Pastor, DG0YT via Development
Am 18.11.20 um 15:50 schrieb Kai Köhne: FYI, we've been taking assistant out of Qt 6.0. https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-86746 . It's not depending on any particular Qt version, so my suggestion is to resurrect it (if there's enough demand) outside of qt5.git. Could you please clarify:

Re: [Development] QThread::create mandatory in Qt 6?

2020-11-18 Thread Sérgio Martins via Development
On 2020-11-18 07:34, Oliver Wolff wrote: Hi On 16/11/2020 23:29, Sérgio Martins via Development wrote: On 2020-11-16 21:57, Thiago Macieira wrote: On Monday, 16 November 2020 13:38:06 PST Cristian Adam wrote: LLVM.org clang.exe binary reports the x86_64-pc-windows-msvc target, which is Clang/

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Ulf Hermann
qml6 I don't understand why, but I'm told it's necessary [...] If we consider QML to be a general purpose scripting or UI prototyping language, then we should keep this easily accessible to end users. You can write QML-only applications or scripts and then use the qml(6) tool to run

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 13:45, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > On Wednesday, 18 November 2020 04:34:40 PST Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez > > > So basically: > > > > - Move out of $prefix/bin (and thus out of $PATH) every developer-oriented > > tool. > > - Ensure that user-facing applications will be bac

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Wednesday, 18 November 2020 04:34:40 PST Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez > > So basically: > > - Move out of $prefix/bin (and thus out of $PATH) every developer-oriented > tool. > - Ensure that user-facing applications will be backwards compatible > with Qt 5 for all the Qt 6 timeline. I don't

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Wednesday, 18 November 2020 06:50:12 PST Kai Köhne wrote: > FYI, we've been taking assistant out of Qt 6.0. > https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-86746 . It's not depending on any > particular Qt version, so my suggestion is to resurrect it (if there's > enough demand) outside of qt5.git. Agr

Re: [Development] QThread::create mandatory in Qt 6?

2020-11-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Tuesday, 17 November 2020 23:34:59 PST Oliver Wolff wrote: > > clang-MSVC on the other hand is useful as it means a better compiler > > frontend (clang) using a better standard library on Windows (msvc). > > As far as I know, people *do* want an open alternative that does not > involve Microsof

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 11:04, Tor Arne Vestbø wrote: [snip] >> qdbus can be called by an app ran by an end-user. > That sounds like a deployment issue. If the app needs qdbus, it needs to > bundle it, or make sure it knows the full path to it (but that sounds like a > fragile thing to rely on).

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Tor Arne Vestbø
On 18 Nov 2020, at 14:21, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer mailto:perezme...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 10:16, Tor Arne Vestbø mailto:tor.arne.ves...@qt.io>> wrote: On 18 Nov 2020, at 14:01, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer mailto:perezme...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Wed,

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 10:16, Tor Arne Vestbø wrote: > > > > > On 18 Nov 2020, at 14:01, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer > > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 09:58, Tor Arne Vestbø wrote: > > [snip] > >> Let’s clarify this, so we’re talking about the same thing: > >> > >> 1. Applicatio

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Tor Arne Vestbø
> On 18 Nov 2020, at 14:01, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer > wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 09:58, Tor Arne Vestbø wrote: > [snip] >> Let’s clarify this, so we’re talking about the same thing: >> >> 1. Application end-users >> 2. Application developers using Qt >> 3. Qt developers >

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 10:01, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 09:58, Tor Arne Vestbø wrote: > [snip] > > Let’s clarify this, so we’re talking about the same thing: > > > > 1. Application end-users > > 2. Application developers using Qt > > 3. Qt developers

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 09:58, Tor Arne Vestbø wrote: [snip] > Let’s clarify this, so we’re talking about the same thing: > > 1. Application end-users > 2. Application developers using Qt > 3. Qt developers Let me expand it: 1. Application end-users 2.1. Application developers using Qt as prov

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Tor Arne Vestbø
On 18 Nov 2020, at 13:39, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer mailto:perezme...@gmail.com>> wrote: Right, and this are all developer's tools. End users shouldn't care nor even know about them. Remember, we are talking about distribution-provided binaries. Let’s clarify this, so we’re talking a

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 09:34, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: [snip] > > Then there's the question of which tools we recommend be in $PATH with a > > suffix (list (b)). Please expand on this list if necessary, with a reason. > > Here's the minimum list: > > > > qmake6 entry poin

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
Hi! On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 08:58, Tor Arne Vestbø wrote: > > > On 18 Nov 2020, at 12:11, Tor Arne Vestbø wrote: > > What we need is a command line tool for doing the same. That’s how other > project solve things too (nvm, rvm, pyenv, etc) > > > For some context: > > https://github.com/nvm-sh/nv

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
Hi Tor! On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 08:13, Tor Arne Vestbø wrote: > > Morning, > > IMHO, suffixing our binaries is a kludge. It “solves” the major version > transition, but not any of the other use cases such as minor version > upgrades, different builds of the same Qt version, etc. It's only about

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
Hi Lars! On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 08:03, Lars Knoll wrote: [snip] > Thinking a bit more about this, I wonder how many applications _really_ need > a version. > > To start with, I think it’s important to recognise a difference between > developer oriented tools and tools targeting end users. > > M

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development
Il 18/11/20 12:03, Lars Knoll ha scritto: - tracegen: same as above Is tracegen of any usage outside Qt itself? Thanks, -- Giuseppe D'Angelo | giuseppe.dang...@kdab.com | Senior Software Engineer KDAB (France) S.A.S., a KDAB Group company Tel. France +33 (0)4 90 84 08 53, http://www.kdab.com

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
Hi! On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 06:02, Joerg Bornemann wrote: > > On 11/18/20 12:49 AM, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > > >> You need to have a host Qt installed, including qmake. > >> The cross-built Qt's qmake is a wrapper script that calls the host Qt's > >> qmake and passes a qt.conf

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Tor Arne Vestbø
On 18 Nov 2020, at 12:11, Tor Arne Vestbø mailto:tor.arne.ves...@qt.io>> wrote: What we need is a command line tool for doing the same. That’s how other project solve things too (nvm, rvm, pyenv, etc) For some context: * https://github.com/nvm-sh/nvm * https://rvm.io/ * https://gi

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Tor Arne Vestbø
Morning, IMHO, suffixing our binaries is a kludge. It “solves” the major version transition, but not any of the other use cases such as minor version upgrades, different builds of the same Qt version, etc. Qt Creator already provides a way to manage and switch Qt versions: https://doc.qt.io/qt

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Lars Knoll
On 18 Nov 2020, at 00:41, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer mailto:perezme...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 14:09, Thiago Macieira mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com>> wrote: On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 09:34:44 PST Thiago Macieira wrote: Have we fixed it? I do not plan on updati

Re: [Development] Development Digest, Vol 110, Issue 43

2020-11-18 Thread Arnaud Clère
Le mer. 18 nov. 2020 à 08:36, a écrit : > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Thiago Macieira > On Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:41:10 PST Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez > Meyer wrote: > > - qtplugininfo: I sincerely don't know how it's being used. > > I was going to suggest it, but I

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Joerg Bornemann
On 11/18/20 12:41 AM, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: Tools I don't know if they should or shouldn't be in this list: - pixeltool: it's a screen magnifier, never used it before, but clearly not something used at build time. Sounds like a user-facing app for me. That's not a tool fo

Re: [Development] Qt 6 co-installability with Qt 5

2020-11-18 Thread Joerg Bornemann
On 11/18/20 12:49 AM, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: You need to have a host Qt installed, including qmake. The cross-built Qt's qmake is a wrapper script that calls the host Qt's qmake and passes a qt.conf file, adjusting qmake's properties. This wrapper script in the cross-built Qt

Re: [Development] Nominating Inho Lee as an approver

2020-11-18 Thread Alex Blasche
Congratulations to Inho Lee. Approver rights have been set. -- Alex From: Development on behalf of Paul Tvete Sent: Wednesday, 28 October 2020 13:43 To: Qt development mailing list Subject: [Development] Nominating Inho Lee as an approver Hi all, I wo