Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support

2019-06-26 Thread Alberto Mardegan
On 27/06/19 04:47, Lars Knoll wrote: > > Yes, Webengine uses some memory. But is that really a problem on developer > machines? Yes. The more RAM you use for surfing documentation, the less RAM you have for building. I have 16 GB of RAM, and sometimes I have to close Chromium away (yes, I know,

Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support

2019-06-26 Thread Richard Weickelt
> Qt used to make a point on having superior documentation to most other > frameworks, and it was (and still is) one of the reasons for its success. > Whatever we can do to help make the documentation better is something I > think we should do. Is it well known, how many QtCreator users are even

Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support

2019-06-26 Thread Lars Knoll
> On 26 Jun 2019, at 23:16, Eike Ziller wrote: > > > >> On 26. Jun 2019, at 13:47, Simon Hausmann wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> From my earlier email: >> >>" I measured on Windows with a Qt Creator built with >> WebEngine support and surfed a little through the docs. The memory >> consumpt

Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support

2019-06-26 Thread André Pönitz
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 08:58:07PM +, Tor Arne Vestbø wrote: > > > > On 25 Jun 2019, at 22:53, André Pönitz wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 07:59:16PM +, Tor Arne Vestbø wrote: > >>> On 25 Jun 2019, at 21:30, Konrad Rosenbaum wrote: > >>> > >>> Pardon my lingo, > >> > >> You s

Re: [Development] Nominating Mikhail Svetkin for Approver status

2019-06-26 Thread Alex Blasche
Approver rights have been set. Sorry for the delay (totally my fault) -- Alex From: Development on behalf of Volker Hilsheimer Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2019 4:45:19 PM To: Qt development mailing list Subject: [Development] Nominating Mikhail Svetkin for A

Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support

2019-06-26 Thread Eike Ziller
> On 26. Jun 2019, at 13:47, Simon Hausmann wrote: > > Hi, > > From my earlier email: > > " I measured on Windows with a Qt Creator built with > WebEngine support and surfed a little through the docs. The memory > consumption of the web engine process weighed in between 14-20 MB of RAM.

Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support

2019-06-26 Thread Riitta-Leena Miettinen
Yes, we never felt the styles should be exactly same, but the most suitable for each purpose. Leena Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 11:39:18 + From: Christian Kandeler To: "development@qt-project.org" Subject: Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support Message-ID: <20190626133856.518e070a

Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support

2019-06-26 Thread Kirill Burtsev
Hi, sorry, but that is not a right way to assess thing like memory consumption. Windows shows in a task manager just private memory (can not be used by other processes) usage for process. And that is really takes 15-20 Mb but just for separate renderer process. Main process (in case for example s

Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support

2019-06-26 Thread Simon Hausmann
Hi, >From my earlier email: " I measured on Windows with a Qt Creator built with WebEngine support and surfed a little through the docs. The memory consumption of the web engine process weighed in between 14-20 MB of RAM." That number came from the task manager in Windows. Simon ___

Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support

2019-06-26 Thread Christian Kandeler
On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 11:24:30 + Riitta-Leena Miettinen wrote: > 3. Should the same style be used online and offline? > > For 3), we always answered „yes“, because we felt that the use cases for > reading documentation on the web or using it within Qt Creator next to the > Code editor were

Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support

2019-06-26 Thread Michal Klocek
Could you explain how did you measure web engine memory consumption to get 14-20MB of ram ? On 6/26/19 1:12 PM, Simon Hausmann wrote: > > Am 25.06.19 um 23:53 schrieb Konrad Rosenbaum: >> Option 4: convert to WebEngine >> Pros: looks great; currently supported browser engine, only little >> port

Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support

2019-06-26 Thread Riitta-Leena Miettinen
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Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support

2019-06-26 Thread Simon Hausmann
Am 25.06.19 um 23:53 schrieb Konrad Rosenbaum: > Option 4: convert to WebEngine > Pros: looks great; currently supported browser engine, only little > porting work > Cons: horrible memory footprint; acute terminal featuritis; adds lots of > dependencies (disqualifies it for most/many people redist

Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support

2019-06-26 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
26.06.2019, 02:57, "Bastiaan Veelo" : > On 26/06/2019 00:15, Jean-Michaël Celerier wrote: >> There's also Zeal which is a nice Qt-based documentation browser which >> covers much more than the current .qch offering: https://zealdocs.org/ & >> https://github.com/zealdocs/zeal >> >> I see it used

Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support

2019-06-26 Thread Nikolai Kosjar
On 6/26/19 10:09 AM, Eike Ziller wrote: >> On 25. Jun 2019, at 23:53, Konrad Rosenbaum wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> On 6/25/19 9:59 PM, Tor Arne Vestbø wrote: >>> On 25 Jun 2019, at 21:30, Konrad Rosenbaum wrote: Pardon my lingo, >>> You should be able to communicate your points without that kind

Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support

2019-06-26 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
26.06.2019, 11:13, "Eike Ziller" : > I agree with Thiago that this also requires WebKit to be updated with > security fixes. It will potentially show downloaded content from anywhere, > and it’s not nice if someone can offer a malicious qch, using known security > issues in WebKit. And with Ja

Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support

2019-06-26 Thread Jaroslaw Kobus
I think the option 2 (enhancements in QTextBrowser) is the best one, since the time investment spent on it will benefit for all users of QTextBrowser, not only those using Qt help system. So big +1 here! However, if we go with the webengine (or webkit) way, I would be very happy that the existi

Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support

2019-06-26 Thread Palaraja, Kavindra
Hey Andre, ... .. I find it somewhat strange that a party that ships a custom Creator built anyway pushes so hard on a solution that is harmful for some instead of simply building their help plugin in their favourite configuration. Andre' Ah, yet another social stab instead

Re: [Development] Assistant WebKit/WebEngine support

2019-06-26 Thread Eike Ziller
> On 25. Jun 2019, at 23:53, Konrad Rosenbaum wrote: > > Hi, > > On 6/25/19 9:59 PM, Tor Arne Vestbø wrote: >> On 25 Jun 2019, at 21:30, Konrad Rosenbaum wrote: >>> Pardon my lingo, >> You should be able to communicate your points without that kind of lingo. >> Try better. >> >>> It is docu