[Development] Qt 5.5.0 RC packages available

2015-06-17 Thread Heikkinen Jani
Hi all, We have finally Qt 5.5.0 RC packages available Windows: http://download.qt.io/snapshots/qt/5.5/5.5.0-rc/2015-06-17_95/ Linux: http://download.qt.io/snapshots/qt/5.5/5.5.0-rc/2015-06-17_118/ Mac: http://download.qt.io/snapshots/qt/5.5/5.5.0-rc/2015-06-17_98/ src: http://download.qt.io

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread Kalinowski Maurice
> On Thursday 18 June 2015 08:23:52 Gunnar Roth wrote: > > > Am 17.06.2015 um 22:35 schrieb Thiago Macieira > > > : > > > > > > On Wednesday 17 June 2015 19:30:25 Gunnar Roth wrote: > > >> Yes that would make us (as a commercial user using a self made > > >> port of qt > > >> 5.4.1 to wec2013 ) ve

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Thursday 18 June 2015 08:23:52 Gunnar Roth wrote: > > Am 17.06.2015 um 22:35 schrieb Thiago Macieira > > : > > > > On Wednesday 17 June 2015 19:30:25 Gunnar Roth wrote: > >> Yes that would make us (as a commercial user using a self made port of > >> qt > >> 5.4.1 to wec2013 ) very unhappy. Thi

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread Gunnar Roth
> Am 17.06.2015 um 22:35 schrieb Thiago Macieira : > > On Wednesday 17 June 2015 19:30:25 Gunnar Roth wrote: >> Yes that would make us (as a commercial user using a self made port of qt >> 5.4.1 to wec2013 ) very unhappy. This means 5.6 will be the last version >> wec2013 would be supported and

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Wednesday 17 June 2015 19:30:25 Gunnar Roth wrote: > Yes that would make us (as a commercial user using a self made port of qt > 5.4.1 to wec2013 ) very unhappy. This means 5.6 will be the last version > wec2013 would be supported and you would go straight to making a back port > very hard or e

Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-17 Thread Stephen Kelly
Knoll Lars wrote: > * Generic and duplicated names from different namespaces can > easily lead to confusion when reading code. ... and when searching about information about a class by unqualified name. 'QTransform' is now ambiguous to google. If the namespace route is used for existing modules

Re: [Development] QtCS: Notes from Modern C++ session

2015-06-17 Thread Gunnar Roth
> Am 16.06.2015 um 22:49 schrieb Ziller Eike : > > >> On Jun 16, 2015, at 16:52, Matthew Woehlke >> wrote: >> >> On 2015-06-12 17:45, Thiago Macieira wrote: >>> On Friday 12 June 2015 10:49:38 Matthew Woehlke wrote: > On Friday 12 June 2015 08:08:51 André Somers wrote: >> Not availabl

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread Gunnar Roth
Hello Lars, > Am 17.06.2015 um 12:27 schrieb Knoll Lars : > > * We make Qt 5.6 an LTS release > * We could then have both WEC7 and WEC2013 (on VS2012) supported on 5.6. > This would solve all problems for Windows Embedded and we could make > VS2013 the compiler baseline for 5.7. > we’d keep peopl

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Wednesday 17 June 2015 18:50:14 André Pönitz wrote: > Would be possible to freeze 5.6 right now, and release that quickly > after 5.5 as LTS, already running on the new CI, and do whatever > else was originally planned for 5.6 in 5.7? I don't think we can do two releases in the next 7 months. W

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread André Pönitz
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 07:31:19AM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On Wednesday 17 June 2015 10:34:39 Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: > > > Since 5.5 LTS is an impossibility, the only alternative to minimising the > > > issues is to push the deprecations to 5.7 and do one more "official" > > > release of

Re: [Development] Bluetooth support for Windows (RT/10) in Qt 5.6

2015-06-17 Thread Edward Sutton
I would like to see Qt Bluetooth support back to Windows 7. However I agree work priority should be focused on Windows mobile devices. For Windows 7 support I had to write an abstraction layer for Bluetooth that is implemented using Winsock 2.2. If Windows 10 and mobile devices drop support fo

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Wednesday 17 June 2015 10:34:39 Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: > > Since 5.5 LTS is an impossibility, the only alternative to minimising the > > issues is to push the deprecations to 5.7 and do one more "official" > > release of the to-be-deprecated code in 5.6. > > I would agree to this plan; we can

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:44:38AM +, Knoll Lars wrote: > On 17/06/15 12:34, "André Somers" wrote: > > >Knoll Lars schreef op 17-6-2015 om 12:27: > >> * We’d still remove the deprecated modules from our Qt 5.6 release > >>(maybe > >> with the exception of Qt Script). > >Is that really needed?

Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-17 Thread Marc Mutz
On Wednesday 17 June 2015 14:54:03 Daniel Teske wrote: > > Curiously, you didn't list any pro-namespace arguments. > > Actually: > >> We couldn’t make things work in a source compatible way. not a pro argument > >> * connect statements are hard with namespaces. not a pro argument > >> * meta

Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-17 Thread Daniel Teske
> Curiously, you didn't list any pro-namespace arguments. Actually: >> We couldn’t make things work in a source compatible way. >> * connect statements are hard with namespaces. >> * metatype registration is problematic with namespaced types >> * One of our coding guidelines is that you writ

Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-17 Thread Ulf Hermann
> That side might be the vocal majority, too, tramping over the silent majority, > since I note that QtC is full of namespaces. > > Roughly one per library after a quick grep. > > If name prefixing is The Way To Go, I wonder why QtC, as the biggest internal > consumer, and second-biggest producer o

Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-17 Thread Marc Mutz
On Wednesday 17 June 2015 12:56:54 Knoll Lars wrote: [...] > * connect statements are hard with namespaces. Old style connects could > easily break if you forgot to fully qualify a parameter. New style > connects might end up with rather ugly looking syntax. This is nothing new. We have that for n

Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-17 Thread Knoll Lars
On 16/06/15 23:19, "Stephen Kelly" wrote: >Stephen Kelly wrote: > >>> I said I'm happy to discuss. I'm just waiting for some more opinions, >>> please don't take that as me trying to shut the discussion down. :) >> >> Cool. Let's wait and see. > >This thread has gone way off-topic now, but we ga

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread Knoll Lars
On 17/06/15 12:34, "André Somers" wrote: >Knoll Lars schreef op 17-6-2015 om 12:27: >> * We’d still remove the deprecated modules from our Qt 5.6 release >>(maybe >> with the exception of Qt Script). >Is that really needed? For all of the modules? Could Quick 1 stay too?* > >André > *) Yes, we h

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread André Somers
Knoll Lars schreef op 17-6-2015 om 12:27: > * We’d still remove the deprecated modules from our Qt 5.6 release (maybe > with the exception of Qt Script). Is that really needed? For all of the modules? Could Quick 1 stay too?* André *) Yes, we have a stake in that: The printing case. ___

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread Knoll Lars
Going through the discussions and looking at our time schedule, here’s another proposal how we could do things (slightly different from what we discussed at QtCS): * We make Qt 5.6 an LTS release * We already have of the current dev branch on pretty much all platforms supported in Qt 5.5 working i

Re: [Development] Avoid overloading of 'error'

2015-06-17 Thread Koehne Kai
> -Original Message- > From: development-bounces+kai.koehne=theqtcompany.com@qt- > [...] > So I recommend we begin the shift now in 5.6 and deprecate the old > methods, to be removed in 6.0. > > As for the implementation, please connect one signal to the other, so we > don't need to dupli

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread André Somers
Giuseppe D'Angelo schreef op 17-6-2015 om 10:34: > I would also push the "C++11 in our API" to 5.7 to minimise the risks. > Cheers, C++11 in our API was to be taken slowly anyway, according to the session at QtCS. We would start with using it in the implementation to gain some experience first.

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread Knoll Lars
On 17/06/15 10:34, "Giuseppe D'Angelo" wrote: >On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Thiago Macieira > wrote: >> >> Two different CI implementations. The "new CI" is being developed in >>lockstep >> with Qt 5.6, including QtTest features. That means the "new CI" system >>cannot >> be backported to 5.5

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > Two different CI implementations. The "new CI" is being developed in lockstep > with Qt 5.6, including QtTest features. That means the "new CI" system cannot > be backported to 5.5. Ok, thanks for explaining this out... > In turn, to ke

Re: [Development] Bluetooth support for Windows (RT/10) in Qt 5.6

2015-06-17 Thread Eric Lemanisser
Hello, I totally +1 this feature ! However if I'm not mistaking, focusing on WinRT api discards MinGW compiler, that's bad news for open source tools. Best regards, Eric Le mar. 16 juin 2015 à 15:35, Attila Csipa a écrit : > Hi, > > A huge +1 on this, BT support on Windows is long overdue. >

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread André Somers
Thiago Macieira schreef op 17-6-2015 om 09:15: > On Wednesday 17 June 2015 09:01:19 André Somers wrote: >> Does the CI infrastructure depend on the Qt version then? What is it >> about 5.5 that prevents the CI from being upgraded? > Two different CI implementations. The "new CI" is being develope

Re: [Development] Question about GTK+ support status

2015-06-17 Thread Knoll Lars
On 17/06/15 09:21, "Dmitry Shachnev" wrote: >Hi J-P, > >On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 17:44:06 +, Nurmi J-P wrote: >> Given that QGtkStyle is no longer part of the public API in Qt 5, how >>about >> making it a QStylePlugin and moving it out of QtWidgets? If someone >> implements a style plugin for GTK

Re: [Development] Question about GTK+ support status

2015-06-17 Thread Dmitry Shachnev
Hi J-P, On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 17:44:06 +, Nurmi J-P wrote: > Given that QGtkStyle is no longer part of the public API in Qt 5, how about > making it a QStylePlugin and moving it out of QtWidgets? If someone > implements a style plugin for GTK+ 3, then it also becomes feasible to have > platform

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Wednesday 17 June 2015 09:01:19 André Somers wrote: > Thiago Macieira schreef op 17-6-2015 om 08:57: > > On Wednesday 17 June 2015 08:33:50 Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Thiago Macieira > >> > >> wrote: > >>> Qt 5.5 would be ideal - but we'd need to support th

Re: [Development] QtCS: Discussion about deprecating things

2015-06-17 Thread Rafael Roquetto
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 01:48:07PM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On Tuesday 16 June 2015 21:57:53 Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: > > > * Qt 5.6 will deprecate: QNX 6.5 (QNX 6.6 OK) > > > * Qt 5.6 will deprecate WEC 7, 2013 only. > > > > Deprecate or drop them? From the C++11 thread I understood they w

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread Simon Hausmann
On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 01:49:54 PM Thiago Macieira wrote: [...] > Other notes: > * We will keep a Linux builder building 32-bit to make sure everything > works - *no binary packages for Linux 32-bit* We do have at least one Linux builder today that targets armv7, but AFAICS that is the o

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Wednesday 17 June 2015 08:35:58 André Somers wrote: > Thiago Macieira schreef op 16-6-2015 om 22:49: > > Last year's notes[1] > > > > Qt 5.5 will be the last release to support: > > * GCC 4.6 > > * OS X 10.7 > > * Windows Vista > > * WIndows Embedded Compact 7 > >

Re: [Development] QtCS: Long Term Release discussion

2015-06-17 Thread André Somers
Thiago Macieira schreef op 17-6-2015 om 08:57: > On Wednesday 17 June 2015 08:33:50 Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Thiago Macieira >> >> wrote: >>> Qt 5.5 would be ideal - but we'd need to support the old Qt CI system for >>> longer. So we're targetting that *Qt 5.6*