Re: [Development] Qt and gcc5

2015-05-28 Thread Knoll Lars
On 28/05/15 22:11, "Thiago Macieira" wrote: >On Thursday 28 May 2015 21:49:57 Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: >> Slightly offtopic. Reading the link they have an interesting idea about >>ABI >> tagging method interfaces. Could we use that in Qt too, when introducing >> new variants of methods, for

Re: [Development] Testability Driver

2015-05-28 Thread Turunen Tuukka
> Harri Porten kirjoitti 28.5.2015 kello 18.28: > >> On Thu, 28 May 2015, Cristian Adam wrote: >> >> Does anyone know what happened with the Testablity Driver? > > I can only confirm what Gerry said: it couldn't keep up with the speed of > Qt development. > Exactly. The Qt QA systems still

Re: [Development] Qt, fPIE, fPIC and changes coming in Qt 5.4.2

2015-05-28 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Thursday 28 May 2015 20:54:10 René J.V. Bertin wrote: > On Thursday May 28 2015 10:25:45 Thiago Macieira wrote: > > > Additional question: how does this affect people using clang (on any > > > platform)? > > > > Clang -fPIC -flto on ELF platforms is broken. Don't use LTO for > > applications. >

Re: [Development] Qt and gcc5

2015-05-28 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Thursday 28 May 2015 21:49:57 Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: > Slightly offtopic. Reading the link they have an interesting idea about ABI > tagging method interfaces. Could we use that in Qt too, when introducing > new variants of methods, for instance to replace the constexpr hacks? I haven't

Re: [Development] Qt and gcc5

2015-05-28 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Thursday 28 May 2015, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On Thursday 28 May 2015 14:51:50 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > > On Thursday 28 May 2015 13:07:10 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > > > Does anyone has any insight with respect to Qt 4 and/or 5 and [link]? > > > > > > [li

Re: [Development] New Module for Serial Buses

2015-05-28 Thread Dominik Holland
Am 28.05.15 um 18:19 schrieb Rutledge Shawn: > On 28 May 2015, at 13:35, Marc Mutz wrote: > >> Please don't overengineer this. If this is about CAN, call it QtCanBus. If >> it's about i2c, call it QtI2cBus. These are separate libraries. You get the >> idea. This is not like the web (ftp, http,

Re: [Development] Qt, fPIE, fPIC and changes coming in Qt 5.4.2

2015-05-28 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Thursday May 28 2015 10:25:45 Thiago Macieira wrote: > > Additional question: how does this affect people using clang (on any > > platform)? > > Clang -fPIC -flto on ELF platforms is broken. Don't use LTO for applications. I thought LTO with clang was broken across the board, and rarely of pr

Re: [Development] Qt and gcc5

2015-05-28 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Thursday 28 May 2015 14:51:50 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > On Thursday 28 May 2015 13:07:10 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > > Does anyone has any insight with respect to Qt 4 and/or 5 and [link]? > > > > [link]

Re: [Development] Qt and gcc5

2015-05-28 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Thursday 28 May 2015 13:07:10 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > Does anyone has any insight with respect to Qt 4 and/or 5 and [link]? > > [link] > > IE, do we also suffer from BIC by switching to gcc5? Although "sta

Re: [Development] Qt, fPIE, fPIC and changes coming in Qt 5.4.2

2015-05-28 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
Totally clear. Thanks a lot. -- Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org h

Re: [Development] New Module for Serial Buses

2015-05-28 Thread Oikarinen Johannes
> On 28 May 2015, at 18:16, Frederik Gladhorn > wrote: > >> On Thursday, May 28, 2015 01:35:17 PM Marc Mutz wrote: >>> On Tuesday 26 May 2015 15:33:59 Viironen Kalle wrote: >>> For naming we have thought either QtBus or QtSerialBus. IMO name as such >>> should already on it’s own describe the g

Re: [Development] Qt, fPIE, fPIC and changes coming in Qt 5.4.2

2015-05-28 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Thursday 28 May 2015 12:24:55 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > Hi! I've been watching the recent changes in Qt 5.4.2 due to gcc5. I have > some doubts I would like to clear. Hi Lisandro > Please feel free to correct me and/or expand whatever you think it's worth. > > As I understa

Re: [Development] Qt, fPIE, fPIC and changes coming in Qt 5.4.2

2015-05-28 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Thursday 28 May 2015 17:57:55 René J.V. Bertin wrote: > On Thursday May 28 2015 12:24:55 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > > Hi! I've been watching the recent changes in Qt 5.4.2 due to gcc5. I have > > some doubts I would like to clear. > > > > Please feel free to correct me and/or

Re: [Development] New Module for Serial Buses

2015-05-28 Thread Rutledge Shawn
On 28 May 2015, at 13:35, Marc Mutz wrote: > Please don't overengineer this. If this is about CAN, call it QtCanBus. If > it's about i2c, call it QtI2cBus. These are separate libraries. You get the > idea. This is not like the web (ftp, http, ...) where there's an established > abstraction (U

[Development] Qt and gcc5

2015-05-28 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
Does anyone has any insight with respect to Qt 4 and/or 5 and [link]? [link] IE, do we also suffer from BIC by switching to gcc5? I was also told that Fedora guys have found BICs even if the old ABI was kept, but I haven't asked

Re: [Development] Qt, fPIE, fPIC and changes coming in Qt 5.4.2

2015-05-28 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Thursday May 28 2015 12:24:55 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > Hi! I've been watching the recent changes in Qt 5.4.2 due to gcc5. I have some > doubts I would like to clear. > > Please feel free to correct me and/or expand whatever you think it's worth. Additional question: how doe

Re: [Development] Testability Driver

2015-05-28 Thread Harri Porten
On Thu, 28 May 2015, Cristian Adam wrote: > Does anyone know what happened with the Testablity Driver? I can only confirm what Gerry said: it couldn't keep up with the speed of Qt development. For our own tool Squish we are also kept busy constantly with advances not only in QML but especially

[Development] Qt, fPIE, fPIC and changes coming in Qt 5.4.2

2015-05-28 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
Hi! I've been watching the recent changes in Qt 5.4.2 due to gcc5. I have some doubts I would like to clear. Please feel free to correct me and/or expand whatever you think it's worth. As I understand the issue is that gcc5 created a BIC in qt5 due to us using -Bsymbolic and -fPIE, so the solutio

Re: [Development] New Module for Serial Buses

2015-05-28 Thread Frederik Gladhorn
On Thursday, May 28, 2015 01:35:17 PM Marc Mutz wrote: > On Tuesday 26 May 2015 15:33:59 Viironen Kalle wrote: > > For naming we have thought either QtBus or QtSerialBus. IMO name as such > > should already on it’s own describe the generalised idea of the module. > > What use-case do you have in m

Re: [Development] Testability Driver

2015-05-28 Thread Michael Zanetti
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 28.05.2015 16:36, Friedemann Kleint wrote: > Hi, > >> adly we're not using it in Canonical any more. TDriver did a good >> job > with Qt4 apps. But it was desired to have a single tool to test > multiple toolkits (Qt & GTK & Html5) using pytho

Re: [Development] Testability Driver

2015-05-28 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi, >adly we're not using it in Canonical any more. TDriver did a good job with Qt4 apps. But it was desired to have a single tool to test multiple toolkits (Qt & GTK & Html5) using python, so > >we ended up building our own: AutoPilot [1]. IMO TDriver is more powerful though. Does this mean

Re: [Development] Testability Driver

2015-05-28 Thread Gerry Boland
On 28/05/15 13:03, Cristian Adam wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know what happened with the Testablity Driver? > > One can read about TDriver here: > http://voices.canonical.com/tag/testability%20driver/ > > It was released by Nokia as LGPL, source code is still available on > Gitorious: https://www.

[Development] Testability Driver

2015-05-28 Thread Cristian Adam
Hi, Does anyone know what happened with the Testablity Driver? One can read about TDriver here: http://voices.canonical.com/tag/testability%20driver/ It was released by Nokia as LGPL, source code is still available on Gitorious: https://www.gitorious.org/tdriver But that won't be for long since

Re: [Development] Qt Speech in Qt 5.6

2015-05-28 Thread Frederik Gladhorn
There is a first early draft of the speech recognition api now at: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/112803/ For now it's mostly about finding the right structure of the classes etc, so let's not get too much into the nit-picking mode yet ;) Cheers, Frederik

Re: [Development] New Module for Serial Buses

2015-05-28 Thread Marc Mutz
On Tuesday 26 May 2015 15:33:59 Viironen Kalle wrote: > For naming we have thought either QtBus or QtSerialBus. IMO name as such > should already on it’s own describe the generalised idea of the module. What use-case do you have in mind where the programmer doesn't know that he's talking to a CAN