Re: [Development] Dependencies of Qt5

2012-10-31 Thread Konstantin Ritt
OR can we have pre-generated sources (for ANGLE at very least)? Konstantin 2012/10/31 Thiago Macieira : > On quarta-feira, 31 de outubro de 2012 16.51.03, Simon Hausmann wrote: >> > > The issue comes from GnuWin32 having a version of flex that is too old >> > > for >> > > Angle. In WebKit land w

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 1 de novembro de 2012 11.56.25, Lincoln Ramsay wrote: > On 01/11/12 09:41, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > On quinta-feira, 1 de novembro de 2012 09.23.37, Lincoln Ramsay wrote: > >> On 01/11/12 01:02, Thiago Macieira wrote: > >>> Also, do I understand correctly that you're suggesting t

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 1 de novembro de 2012 11.39.22, Chris Adams wrote: > You're right. > Ok, all in all, I think having separate import install paths and separate > envvars to define the import path basedir at runtime is the best solution > after all. Thanks. That makes my life easier because there's

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Lincoln Ramsay
On 01/11/12 09:41, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On quinta-feira, 1 de novembro de 2012 09.23.37, Lincoln Ramsay wrote: >> On 01/11/12 01:02, Thiago Macieira wrote: >>> Also, do I understand correctly that you're suggesting that multiarch >>> >>> distributions should have *both*: >>> /usr/lib/qt5//b

Re: [Development] Status of WP8 port

2012-10-31 Thread Yang Fan
Nobody knows. Since Nokia sold Qt, the development progress is slower and slower and slower... On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: > Hello, > > Microsoft has released the Windows Phone 8.0 SDK with native support. > > http://blogs.windows.com/windows_phone/b/wpdev/archive/

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Chris Adams
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On quinta-feira, 1 de novembro de 2012 10.01.11, Chris Adams wrote: > > Regarding QML_IMPORT_PATH, I discussed this yesterday and this morning > with > > Martin Jones and Andrew den Exter, and a couple of things deserve > > mentioning: > >

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 1 de novembro de 2012 10.01.11, Chris Adams wrote: > Regarding QML_IMPORT_PATH, I discussed this yesterday and this morning with > Martin Jones and Andrew den Exter, and a couple of things deserve > mentioning: > 1) through the versioning of imports (ie, the path lookup with major/

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Chris Adams
Hi, On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2012-10-30, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > 1) QML environment variables > > The variable for import paths has been versioned from QML_IMPORT_PATH to > > QML2_IMPORT_PATH. But I have not changed any of the other variables. We > need a > >

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 1 de novembro de 2012 09.23.37, Lincoln Ramsay wrote: > On 01/11/12 01:02, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > Also, do I understand correctly that you're suggesting that multiarch > > > > distributions should have *both*: > > /usr/lib/qt5//bin/assistant AND >

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Lincoln Ramsay
On 01/11/12 01:02, Thiago Macieira wrote: > Also, do I understand correctly that you're suggesting that multiarch > distributions should have *both*: > /usr/lib/qt5//bin/assistant AND > /usr/lib64/qt5/bin/assistant > /usr/lib/qt5//bin/linguist AND

[Development] Versioning is not working for custom Qt5 addons

2012-10-31 Thread Denis Shienkov
Hello all. When creating a custom add-on for Qt5 not correctly applied version number for the target. For example, file /modules/qt_myaddon.pri have following content: ... QT.myaddon.VERSION = 1.0.0 QT.myaddon.MAJOR_VERSION = 1 QT.myaddon.MINOR_VERSION = 0 QT.myaddon.PATCH_VERSION = 0 ... and

Re: [Development] Dependencies of Qt5

2012-10-31 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 31 de outubro de 2012 16.51.03, Simon Hausmann wrote: > > > The issue comes from GnuWin32 having a version of flex that is too old > > > for > > > Angle. In WebKit land we've told people to install the GNU tools from > > > the > > > GnuWin32 distribution (gperf, etc.) and unfortuna

Re: [Development] Request for a new playground project

2012-10-31 Thread João Abecasis
Jarkko Laitinen wrote: > I have been developing a cloud integration module for Qt. The working name > for the project is QCloud. It provides an API to do requests to Amazons S3 > and Windows Azure. This has been my masters thesis project and it has been > done with consultation from Digia. The proj

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 31 de outubro de 2012 12.23.27, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > 4) new installation paths (besides the bin directory) > > The latest patch I've provided creates a grouping of all arch-dependent > > files in ARCHDATADIR, with arch-independent files in DATADIR. That > > change, by its

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 31 de outubro de 2012 08.02.20, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On quarta-feira, 31 de outubro de 2012 12.23.27, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > > 3) library versioning (i.e., adding "5" to the library name) > > > > > > > > -1 > > > > > > > > renaming is unnecessary: > > - there is no probl

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 31 de outubro de 2012 20.31.57, André Pönitz wrote: > > And if we define the cut as the ones that have compatibility of > > purpose and output, versus the ones that don't? > > This sounds not overly wrong as it would reduce some possibly > needless duplication and reduction in disk

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread André Pönitz
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 05:06:33PM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On terça-feira, 30 de outubro de 2012 23.52.08, André Pönitz > wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 01:47:03PM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > > 5) executable split between end-user applications and indirect > > > tooling The most c

[Development] FOSDEM CrossDesktop DevRoom 2013 - Call for Talks

2012-10-31 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
Hello, The Call for Talks for the CrossDesktop DevRoom at FOSDEM 2013 is now officially open. Please do not wait till the last minute! --8<--- * FOSDEM is one of the largest gatherings of Free Software contributors in the world and happens each February in Brussels (Belgium). One of the tracks

Re: [Development] Dependencies of Qt5

2012-10-31 Thread Simon Hausmann
On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 07:38:27 AM Thiago Macieira wrote: > On quarta-feira, 31 de outubro de 2012 10.28.12, Simon Hausmann wrote: > > > Simon: what's the difference between flex and win_flex? Note that > > > there's > > > a > > > flex with msysgit, so if we used flex instead of win_flex, i

Re: [Development] MinGW-builds in CI system (Qt 5)

2012-10-31 Thread Koehne Kai
> -Original Message- > From: Anttila Janne > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 2:27 PM > To: Koehne Kai; Piippo Samuli > Cc: development@qt-project.org; net...@gmail.com > Subject: RE: MinGW-builds in CI system (Qt 5) > > [...] > Since we are currently limited on capacity we cannot do all

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 31 de outubro de 2012 09.46.18, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > On 10/31/2012 01:06 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > In any case, what's the problem with making a subjective decision? Clearly > > the applications need to be split in two groups, so why shouldn't the Qt > > Project make its

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 31 de outubro de 2012 12.23.27, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > 3) library versioning (i.e., adding "5" to the library name) > > -1 > > renaming is unnecessary: > - there is no problem at all at run-time > - the problem at build time is solved by -L flags. there is no need for > an

Re: [Development] Dependencies of Qt5

2012-10-31 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 31 de outubro de 2012 10.28.12, Simon Hausmann wrote: > > Simon: what's the difference between flex and win_flex? Note that there's > > a > > flex with msysgit, so if we used flex instead of win_flex, it would make > > setups easier. > > The issue comes from GnuWin32 having a vers

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 01:26:09PM +0100, Jan Kundrát wrote: > On 10/31/12 12:23, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > renaming is unnecessary: > > - there is no problem at all at run-time > > - the problem at build time is solved by -L flags. there is no need for > > an unversioned symlink in /usr/lib.

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2012-10-31, Poenitz Andre wrote: > This is not about "overriding someone". This is about ranking the user > experience of the majority of users higher than the convenience of a > handful of Linux distribution packagers - half which will do their own > renaming anyway, no matter what the offi

[Development] Request for a new playground project

2012-10-31 Thread Jarkko Laitinen
Hi, I have been developing a cloud integration module for Qt. The working name for the project is QCloud. It provides an API to do requests to Amazons S3 and Windows Azure. This has been my masters thesis project and it has been done with consultation from Digia. The project is in that kind of a s

Re: [Development] MinGW-builds in CI system (Qt 5)

2012-10-31 Thread Anttila Janne
Koehne Kai wrote: > Now that the big thing (CI system migration) is done, I'm wondering whether > we can get also MinGW into the CI system for Qt 5? It's a Tier 1 platform, so > it should really be part of the CI testing. I understand that in the past we > didn't do it because the outdated gcc in

Re: [Development] QML Profiler for Qt5

2012-10-31 Thread Labs, Torsten
Hi Christaan, thx for the very good declaration. Our problem is that we want to implement an automatic performance test. So we would like to measure two things: 1. Page switch time (Switch from on QML Page to another random QML page. Each page has several QML Elements on it). We would like to k

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Jan Kundrát
On 10/31/12 12:23, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > renaming is unnecessary: > - there is no problem at all at run-time > - the problem at build time is solved by -L flags. there is no need for > an unversioned symlink in /usr/lib. On RHEL6, this is how it looks right now: kundratj@noe2 ~ $ locate /

[Development] Proofreaders for changes from non-native English speakers

2012-10-31 Thread Mitch Curtis
I thought it'd be useful for non-native English speakers (or even native English speakers) who'd like proofreading done to know who they can add as reviewers. There is a list of people who are willing to do language reviews under the Approvers and Editors section here: http://qt-project.org/wik

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
this is just re-iterating stuff, but whatever. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 01:47:03PM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > 1) QML environment variables > +1 > 2) QML tool names > 0 > 3) library versioning (i.e., adding "5" to the library name) > -1 renaming is unnecessary: - there is no problem at all a

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Stephen Kelly
On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 09:46:18 Alberto Mardegan wrote: > Also consider that if you decide for a split of the binaries, you run > the risk that Qt6 will require a different split (some binary which is > reusable between Qt4 and Qt5 might not be compatible with Qt6, or some > Qt4-incompat

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Koehne Kai
> -Original Message- > From: development-bounces+kai.koehne=digia@qt-project.org > [mailto:development-bounces+kai.koehne=digia@qt-project.org] On > Behalf Of Thiago Macieira > [...] > 2) QML tool names > Kai raised the point that many of the QML 2 tools work for QML 1 too and > may

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Poenitz Andre
Sune Vuorela: > This is something that will happen to be done. and for the sake of > documentation and support, please let it be consistant not only across > distributions, but also across platforms so that documentations don't > have to be > if mac | upstream-provided-linux-builds { > run qmake

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2012-10-30, Thiago Macieira wrote: > 1) QML environment variables > The variable for import paths has been versioned from QML_IMPORT_PATH to > QML2_IMPORT_PATH. But I have not changed any of the other variables. We need > a > decision from the team familiar with the engines and the meanings

Re: [Development] QML Profiler for Qt5

2012-10-31 Thread Christiaan Janssen
Hello Torsten, the internal architecture of the rendering has changed significantly between QtQuick1 and QtQuick2, due to the fact that the second one is based on a scene graph. In this second case, we don't have individual paint events to track, since the rendering is managed in a synchron

Re: [Development] Dependencies of Qt5

2012-10-31 Thread Simon Hausmann
On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 07:39:34 AM Thiago Macieira wrote: > On terça-feira, 30 de outubro de 2012 13.38.03, Hausmann Simon wrote: > > Note that qt5.git also contains binaries of bison and win_flex needed by > > WebKit. If qtwebkit is built as part of qt5.git then those binaries will > > be >

[Development] Status of WP8 port

2012-10-31 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
Hello, Microsoft has released the Windows Phone 8.0 SDK with native support. http://blogs.windows.com/windows_phone/b/wpdev/archive/2012/10/30/announcing-the-new-windows-phone-8-developer-platform.aspx https://dev.windowsphone.com/en-us/downloadsdk What's the status of Qt 5 on WP8? Last I reme

[Development] MinGW-builds in CI system (Qt 5)

2012-10-31 Thread Koehne Kai
Hi Janne and Samuli, Now that the big thing (CI system migration) is done, I'm wondering whether we can get also MinGW into the CI system for Qt 5? It's a Tier 1 platform, so it should really be part of the CI testing. I understand that in the past we didn't do it because the outdated gcc in Mi

Re: [Development] Pending decisions on co-installation

2012-10-31 Thread Alberto Mardegan
On 10/31/2012 01:06 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > In any case, what's the problem with making a subjective decision? Clearly the > applications need to be split in two groups, so why shouldn't the Qt Project > make its recommendation to the downstreams? I would like that all binaries are installed