Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
On sexta-feira, 19 de outubro de 2012 06.07.34, Kalinowski Maurice wrote: > On Windows there is no global qmake or such to call and distinguish between > versions. Each Qt version will have to live in its own package, either made > by the binary distribution or self-compiled. Hence that argument is

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Kalinowski Maurice
> -Original Message- > From: development-bounces+maurice.kalinowski=digia@qt-project.org > [mailto:development-bounces+maurice.kalinowski=digia@qt-project.org] > On Behalf Of Thiago Macieira > Sent: Freitag, 19. Oktober 2012 02:38 > To: development@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [D

Re: [Development] RFC: Qt Security Policy

2012-10-18 Thread slfj sfjie
> > tl;dr: > Open Project > Closed Security > > The officially endorsed method for reporting security issues for Qt is > to send them to security at qt-project.org , which is a private mailing > list. I have a problem with that. > > "Experience has shown that 'security through obscurity' does not w

Re: [Development] RFC: Qt Security Policy

2012-10-18 Thread d3fault
Whoops that third one was a typo, should have read "I am" instead of "Am I". I am clearly not being listened to :-P (and I should have used a pseudonym to trick your inferior brain(s)). You should not associate an argument with the person presenting it (even though most do). It is fallacious. So c

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
On sexta-feira, 19 de outubro de 2012 10.17.39, Lincoln Ramsay wrote: > On 19/10/12 01:30, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > After all of my patches are integrated, here are the changes that will > > happen: > > > > - bin: > > > The following tools have been renamed: > So... You just don't care about th

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Lorn Potter
On 19/10/12 02:23, Olivier Goffart wrote: > On Thursday 18 October 2012 08:30:03 Thiago Macieira wrote: >> After all of my patches are integrated, here are the changes that will >> happen: >> >> - bin: >> The following tools have been renamed: >> qmake -> qmake5 >> moc -> mo

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
On sexta-feira, 19 de outubro de 2012 01.57.16, André Pönitz wrote: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 04:10:16PM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > On sexta-feira, 19 de outubro de 2012 01.03.29, André Pönitz wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 08:30:03AM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > > > lconv

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
On sexta-feira, 19 de outubro de 2012 01.44.18, André Pönitz wrote: > > Creator needs *some* solution of some kind so that its Designer component > > can work for Qt 4 and Qt 5. > > Why? _You_ call Widgets "done". Why do you suddenly care how people > handle them? "Done" still means people can des

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Lincoln Ramsay
On 19/10/12 01:30, Thiago Macieira wrote: > After all of my patches are integrated, here are the changes that will happen: > > - bin: > The following tools have been renamed: So... You just don't care about the calls from myself and others to leave the names alone instead install newly-named (ali

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread André Pönitz
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 04:10:16PM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On sexta-feira, 19 de outubro de 2012 01.03.29, André Pönitz wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 08:30:03AM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > > lconvert-> lconvert5 > > > lrelease-> lrelease5 > > > lupdate -> lu

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread André Pönitz
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:16:37AM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > I would remove creator from this list as it's a different ""product"" > > and comes with its own versioning and release cycle -- are all of > > those 100% compatible with Qt 4? (First thing that comes to mind is > > that designer

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 18 de outubro de 2012 08.30.03, Thiago Macieira wrote: > xmlpatterns -> xmlpatterns5 > xmlpatternsvalidator -> xmlpatternsvalidator5 I've changed my mind on those two and dropped the patches that dealt with them. Those two are end-user applications and retain ful

Re: [Development] qtwayland module fails to build for Raspberry Pi

2012-10-18 Thread Chris Adams
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Jon Trulson wrote: > On Tue, 16 Oct 2012, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > On terça-feira, 16 de outubro de 2012 15.25.40, Jon Trulson wrote: >> >>> However, compiling qtwayland fails with many errors - errors that >>> imply qtwayland cannot work with the wayland insta

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
On sexta-feira, 19 de outubro de 2012 01.03.29, André Pönitz wrote: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 08:30:03AM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > lconvert-> lconvert5 > > lrelease-> lrelease5 > > lupdate -> lupdate5 > > Sorry, I don't get the joke. Because it was no joke. It's

Re: [Development] RFC: Qt Security Policy

2012-10-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 18 de outubro de 2012 12.11.32, d3fault wrote: > Bump. > > What's going on with this important issue? > > -Am I being ignored (in which case, I should have used a pseudonym to > present my argument)? More or less. Most of the time, I read your emails, but I do not take your opi

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread André Pönitz
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 08:30:03AM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > lconvert-> lconvert5 > lrelease-> lrelease5 > lupdate -> lupdate5 Sorry, I don't get the joke. Andre' ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-projec

Re: [Development] RFC: Qt Security Policy

2012-10-18 Thread d3fault
tl;dr: Open Project Closed Security The officially endorsed method for reporting security issues for Qt is to send them to secur...@qt-project.org , which is a private mailing list. I have a problem with that. "Experience has shown that 'security through obscurity' does not work. Public disclosur

Re: [Development] RFC: Qt Security Policy

2012-10-18 Thread d3fault
Bump. What's going on with this important issue? -Am I being ignored (in which case, I should have used a pseudonym to present my argument)? -Has discussion halted because of a lack of consensus (in which case, I present to you the following image: http://bayimg.com/eAEhDAaEE )? -Am I being liste

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Rafael Roquetto
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 05:47:16PM +0100, Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: > On 18 October 2012 16:30, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > > > The following tools require more information: > > qdoc: not renamed because the Qt 4 version was called "qdoc3" > > qhelpgenerator, qcollectiongenerator, q

Re: [Development] renaming qmake for everyone (was: Re: Co-installation & library naming rules=)

2012-10-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 18 de outubro de 2012 18.05.31, Ziller Eike wrote: > I'd throw Mac out of sentences that have Linux in them in this discussion: > There are no "Mac" distributions/distributors that package Qt There's MacPorts. > On Mac, Qt will either be self-compiled (you are on your own which i

Re: [Development] renaming qmake for everyone (was: Re: Co-installation & library naming rules=)

2012-10-18 Thread Ziller Eike
Reposting after setting some "plain text" flags in the mail client, in the hope of better readability for Thiago. On 18.10.2012, at 16:30, BRM wrote: >> From: Oswald Buddenhagen > >> Subject: [Development] renaming qmake for everyone (was: Re: Co-installation >> & library naming rules=) >> [c

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Ziller Eike
On 18.10.2012, at 18:47, Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: > On 18 October 2012 16:30, Thiago Macieira wrote: >> >> The following tools require more information: >>qdoc: not renamed because the Qt 4 version was called "qdoc3" >>qhelpgenerator, qcollectiongenerator, qhelpconverter: they a

[Development] highlight/background colour of active tabs

2012-10-18 Thread Randolph D.
Hello in the tab widget several tabs have a background colour of dark-grey and the active forground tab has the background colour of light-grey. This is misleading, as all apps with a mainframe have the colour of light grey, so the active tab is regarded as the general background colour, and this

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 18 de outubro de 2012 17.14.55, Jana Aurindam wrote: > qmlviewer -> qml1viewer > This should be just qmlviewer (as it was in Qt 4.8).. I dont see a reason > for this renaming.. > > [qml1plugindump had already been renamed] > This should be reverted back to qmlplugindump .. (Same r

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 18 de outubro de 2012 17.47.16, Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: > > The following are user applications and they have not and will not be renamed: > > qdbus > > qdbusviewer > > assistant > > designer > > linguist > > creator > > pix

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo
On 18 October 2012 17:23, Olivier Goffart wrote: > Take the most recent example of python. They did not rename the executable. > Some distribution renamed the new one to python3, some other (archlinux) > renamed the old one python2. > Let the distributions solve the distributor's problem. With

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Jana Aurindam
On Oct 18, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: After all of my patches are integrated, here are the changes that will happen: - bin: The following tools have been renamed: qmake -> qmake5 moc -> moc5 uic -> uic5 rcc -> rcc5 qdbusxml2cpp -> qdbusxml2cpp5 qdbuscpp2xml -> qdbuscpp2xml5 lcon

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 18 de outubro de 2012 18.23.38, Olivier Goffart wrote: > I agree with Ossi on this matter. > > I will add that i don't like to rename qmake to qmake5 because: > > One runs firefox, not firefox15. Firefox is an end-user application. You upgrade it and you don't keep the older ve

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 08:30:03AM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > After all of my patches are integrated, here are the changes that will happen: > > - bin: > The following tools have been renamed: > > qmlviewer -> qml1viewer > [qml1plugindump had already been renamed] > > qmls

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2012-10-18, Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: >> The following are user applications and they have not and will not be >> renamed: >> qdbus >> qdbusviewer >> assistant >> designer >> linguist >> creator >> pixeltool > > I would remove creator from

Re: [Development] renaming qmake for everyone (was: Re: Co-installation & library naming rules=)

2012-10-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
Any chance you guys can configure your email clients to do proper quoting on mailing lists? And please send plain text only. I'm entirely ignoring the message below because it's mangling what I said with what Ossi said, BRM said and Eike added. On quinta-feira, 18 de outubro de 2012 16.14.37, Zil

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo
On 18 October 2012 16:30, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > The following tools require more information: > qdoc: not renamed because the Qt 4 version was called "qdoc3" > qhelpgenerator, qcollectiongenerator, qhelpconverter: they apparently > keep backwards compatibility, so they

Re: [Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Olivier Goffart
On Thursday 18 October 2012 08:30:03 Thiago Macieira wrote: > After all of my patches are integrated, here are the changes that will > happen: > > - bin: > The following tools have been renamed: > qmake -> qmake5 > moc -> moc5 > uic -> uic5 > rcc

Re: [Development] Co-installation & library naming rules

2012-10-18 Thread Ziller Eike
On 12.10.2012, at 01:11, Thiago Macieira wrote: On quinta-feira, 11 de outubro de 2012 21.16.56, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:56:44AM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: Considering all the changes I am proposing do NOT harm any of the people that build from sources, they *do*

Re: [Development] renaming qmake for everyone (was: Re: Co-installation & library naming rules=)

2012-10-18 Thread Ziller Eike
On 18.10.2012, at 16:30, BRM wrote: From: Oswald Buddenhagen mailto:oswald.buddenha...@digia.com>> Subject: [Development] renaming qmake for everyone (was: Re: Co-installation & library naming rules=) [changed the subject to get some attention ... from a quick survey i don't have the impressio

Re: [Development] qtwayland module fails to build for Raspberry Pi

2012-10-18 Thread Jon Trulson
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012, Thiago Macieira wrote: On terça-feira, 16 de outubro de 2012 15.25.40, Jon Trulson wrote: However, compiling qtwayland fails with many errors - errors that imply qtwayland cannot work with the wayland installed on the rpi. Probably. Upgrade your Wayland to 0.95 at least.

Re: [Development] Deprecate the QThread::terminated() signal?

2012-10-18 Thread Olivier Goffart
On Thursday 18 October 2012 23:40:21 Sze Howe Koh wrote: > Ok, I just had a look at the source code to study how to remove the signal. > > It looks like the QThread::terminated() signal is only ever emitted from > QThreadPrivate::finish(), if the appropriate flag is set (for both Unix and > Win im

Re: [Development] Deprecate the QThread::terminated() signal?

2012-10-18 Thread Sze Howe Koh
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On segunda-feira, 15 de outubro de 2012 14.53.39, Olivier Goffart wrote: > > > Is there any value in keeping a signal that is: > > > - Only emitted after the program destabilises, and > > > - Not even guaranteed to be emitted? > > > > I e

[Development] Summary of renaming changes

2012-10-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
After all of my patches are integrated, here are the changes that will happen: - bin: The following tools have been renamed: qmake -> qmake5 moc -> moc5 uic -> uic5 rcc -> rcc5 qdbusxml2cpp -> qdbusxml2cpp5 qdbus

Re: [Development] Co-installation & library naming rules

2012-10-18 Thread Simon Hausmann
On Thursday, October 11, 2012 04:11:10 PM Thiago Macieira wrote: > On quinta-feira, 11 de outubro de 2012 21.16.56, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:56:44AM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > > Considering all the changes I am proposing do NOT harm any of the > > > people tha

Re: [Development] renaming qmake for everyone (was: Re: Co-installation & library naming rules=)

2012-10-18 Thread BRM
> From: Oswald Buddenhagen >Subject: [Development] renaming qmake for everyone (was: Re: Co-installation & >library naming rules=) >[changed the subject to get some attention ... from a quick survey i >don't have the impression that many people grasp that this thread is >very much relevant for t

[Development] renaming qmake for everyone (was: Re: Co-installation & library naming rules=)

2012-10-18 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
[changed the subject to get some attention ... from a quick survey i don't have the impression that many people grasp that this thread is very much relevant for them.] On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 04:11:10PM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On quinta-feira, 11 de outubro de 2012 21.16.56, Oswald Buddenh

Re: [Development] New high-dpi QPen proposal (Was Re: Proposal: Make QPen non-cosmetic by default)

2012-10-18 Thread Samuel Rødal
On 10/18/2012 11:08 AM, Bache-Wiig Jens wrote: >> Maybe as a best effort we could introduce a different render hint, >> asking QPainter to treat cosmetic pens as geometric, would be a better >> solution for Morten's high-dpi use case. Then it would be opt-in instead >> of opt-out, and no existing a

Re: [Development] New high-dpi QPen proposal (Was Re: Proposal: Make QPen non-cosmetic by default)

2012-10-18 Thread Bache-Wiig Jens
> Maybe as a best effort we could introduce a different render hint, > asking QPainter to treat cosmetic pens as geometric, would be a better > solution for Morten's high-dpi use case. Then it would be opt-in instead > of opt-out, and no existing applications would be affected. Turning on > hig

Re: [Development] New high-dpi QPen proposal (Was Re: Proposal: Make QPen non-cosmetic by default)

2012-10-18 Thread Sean Harmer
On Thursday 18 October 2012 09:59:45 Samuel Rødal wrote: > In summary (or TL;DR), my new proposal would be to just make > QPainter::NonCosmeticDefaultPen work as advertised, and have it be set > by default when high-dpi mode is enabled. This way there would be > minimal breakage of existing code. T

Re: [Development] Mixing OpenGL and Raster

2012-10-18 Thread Sorvig Morten
On Oct 16, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Uwe Rathmann wrote: > > We are using QWS ( we don't even have X11 for the Carmine chip ) so this > is no problem - but by QWindow you mean Qt5 ? Yes. I can't help you with QWS, sorry. Morten ___ Development mailing list

[Development] Porting exported qt_[win|mac|x11] functions Qt 5.

2012-10-18 Thread Sorvig Morten
According to git grep Qt 4 has 47 semi-public exported "qt_platform" functions offering platform-spesific functionality. Most platform code is now in plugins and can no longer export symbols. We need a plan for dealing with these in Qt 5. After a brief investigation these fall into several categ

[Development] New high-dpi QPen proposal (Was Re: Proposal: Make QPen non-cosmetic by default)

2012-10-18 Thread Samuel Rødal
On 10/18/2012 07:53 AM, Uwe Rathmann wrote: > On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:47:00 +0200, Samuel Rødal wrote: > >> Seems to me to be the best compromise to avoid completely breaking too >> much existing code. > > I don't agree - it is going to break many applications doing graphics and > PDF export for a m

Re: [Development] QML Profiler for Qt5.0-Beta1 programs

2012-10-18 Thread Jana Aurindam
Some ways to do this: 1) If you can connect to the arm board via network, then * Start you application with -qmljsdebugger=port: * From QtCreator, connect to the applicationvia "Attach to QML Profiler" and specify the IP and the above port 2) You can use the standalone profiler in Qt-5. * qmlpro