The current target is the early target date (18 April).
Action summary
Accepted blockers
-
1. shim — Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2
fails to boot on some boards — NEW
ACTION: kernel upstream to merge NX support
Proposed blockers
The current target is the early target date (18 April).
Action summary
Accepted blockers
-
1. kernel — anaconda failed to detect the fcoe target(only affects ixgbe) — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue
NEEDINFO: lnie
2. plasma-workspace — Logging out
On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 02:25:46PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> 3. kernel — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2176782 — POST
> The kernel sometimes does not initialize SimpleDRM when booting in
> basic graphics mode on BIOS, causing SDDM to fail
>
> In BIOS mode only, sddm results in a bla
The current target is the early target date (18 April).
Action summary
Accepted blockers
-
1. crypto-policies — Insecure installed RPMs (like Google Chrome)
prevent system updates in F38, can't be removed — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Maintainers to propose solution for
The current target is the early target date (18 April).
Action summary
Accepted blockers
-
1. fcoe-utils — anaconda failed to detect the fcoe target(only affects
ixgbe) — NEW
ACTION: Maintainer to diagnose issue
NEEDINFO: cleech
2. gnome-calendar — After a f
F38 Beta is go, so it's time to look at final blockers. The current
target is the early target date (18 April).
Action summary
Accepted blockers
-
1. fcoe-utils — anaconda failed to detect the fcoe target(only affects
ixgbe) — NEW
ACTION: Maintainer to diagn
On Fri, Mar 03, 2023 at 04:02:43PM -0500, Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 at 15:56, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > 2. crypto-policies — Insecure installed RPMs (like Google Chrome)
> > prevent system updates in F38, can't be removed — NEW
> > ACTION: Upstream to implement MR #129
> >
> >
> >
On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 at 15:56, Ben Cotton wrote:
> The current target release date is the early target date (2023-03-14).
> The Go/No-Go meeting will be Thursday!
>
> Action summary
>
>
> Accepted blockers
> -
>
> 1. distribution — Workstation boot x86_64 image
The current target release date is the early target date (2023-03-14).
The Go/No-Go meeting will be Thursday!
Action summary
Accepted blockers
-
1. distribution — Workstation boot x86_64 image exceeds maximum size — POST
ACTION: gdb maintainers to remove the
The current target release date is the early target date (2023-03-14).
Action summary
Accepted blockers
-
1. distribution — Workstation boot x86_64 image exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Workstation WG to reduce image size or increase the limit
2. kwi
On Fri, 2023-02-17 at 14:45 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote:
> The F38 Beta freeze begins on 21 February. The current target release
> date is the early target date (2023-03-14).
>
> Action summary
>
>
> Accepted blockers
> -
>
> 1. distribution — Workstation boot x8
The F38 Beta freeze begins on 21 February. The current target release
date is the early target date (2023-03-14).
Action summary
Accepted blockers
-
1. distribution — Workstation boot x86_64 image exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Workstation WG to redu
Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2023-02-14 at 16:44 +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
>> Peter Robinson wrote:
>> > It was decided years ago that all desktops would have some Fedora
>> > similarities, backgrounds, browser etc.
>>
>> If and when that was decided, that was without involving the
On Tue, 2023-02-14 at 16:44 +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Peter Robinson wrote:
> > It was decided years ago that all desktops would have some Fedora
> > similarities, backgrounds, browser etc.
>
> If and when that was decided, that was without involving the maintainers of
> the Spins. I
On Friday, 10 February 2023 15:11:19 CET Marc Deop i Argemí wrote:
> On Friday, 10 February 2023 14:47:19 CET Ben Cotton wrote:
>
> > 3. kwin — kwin_wayland often crashed when used as the sddm Wayland
> > compositor and logging out of Plasma resulting in a black screen — NEW
> > ACTION: Maintainer
Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> As a browser maintainer itself, I'm very supportive of the Falkon
> project. I consider it to be KDE's equivalent of Epiphany, sort of a
> sister project, more or less.
Agreed. I also think that the "Workstation Edition" should be shipping
Epiphany instead of Firefox (a
Peter Robinson wrote:
> It was decided years ago that all desktops would have some Fedora
> similarities, backgrounds, browser etc.
If and when that was decided, that was without involving the maintainers of
the Spins. I know because I was directly involved with maintaining the KDE
Spin at the t
As a browser maintainer itself, I'm very supportive of the Falkon
project. I consider it to be KDE's equivalent of Epiphany, sort of a
sister project, more or less.
On Tue, Feb 14 2023 at 03:44:06 AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel
wrote:
Even Qt 5 QtWebEngine (considered obsolete by Qt) still
On Mon, 2023-02-13 at 15:09 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 1:56 PM Kevin Kofler via devel
> wrote:
> >
> > Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> > > I did a check on some.. I only downloaded 3 isos so this isn't a
> > > complete
> > > set.
> >
> > I think trying to track down 11 to 16 yea
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 2:25 AM Kevin Kofler via devel
wrote:
>
> Neal Gompa wrote:
> > We're not getting rid of Firefox.
>
> At least that is an answer, unlike the complete radio silence on:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1920298
>
> Still does not explain why Firefox has to be the
Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
> And is kept up to date, unlike QtWebEngine. QtWebEngine is invariably
> behind on security patches. I blame Google for not making embedded
> Chromium a first-class citizen.
Qt backports security fixes to its stable branches, a service Google is not
offering by themse
Neal Gompa wrote:
> We're not getting rid of Firefox.
At least that is an answer, unlike the complete radio silence on:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1920298
Still does not explain why Firefox has to be the default though.
But the thing is, this inevitably leads to:
* unnecessarily
On 2/13/23 16:10, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 4:00 PM Kevin Kofler via devel
> wrote:
>>
>> Neal Gompa wrote:
>>> FYI, if the GTK-based Anaconda UI goes away, the KDE variants probably
>>> ship a thin QtWebEngine wrapper or use Firefox instead for the
>>> web-based UI. No reason to
On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 4:00 PM Kevin Kofler via devel
wrote:
>
> Neal Gompa wrote:
> > FYI, if the GTK-based Anaconda UI goes away, the KDE variants probably
> > ship a thin QtWebEngine wrapper or use Firefox instead for the
> > web-based UI. No reason to depend on WebKitGTK for this.
>
> Well, t
On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 15:56, Kevin Kofler via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> > The following is from the F38 image from last week?
> >
> > dnf remove qt5-qtwebengine
> > Error:
> > Problem: The operation would result in removing the following protected
>
Neal Gompa wrote:
> FYI, if the GTK-based Anaconda UI goes away, the KDE variants probably
> ship a thin QtWebEngine wrapper or use Firefox instead for the
> web-based UI. No reason to depend on WebKitGTK for this.
Well, the way the Anaconda web UI is currently packaged, it hardcodes a
requiremen
Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> The following is from the F38 image from last week?
>
> dnf remove qt5-qtwebengine
> Error:
> Problem: The operation would result in removing the following protected
> packages: plasma-desktop
QtWebEngine is the native web engine of the KDE desktop and the one that
shou
On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 1:56 PM Kevin Kofler via devel
wrote:
>
> Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> > I did a check on some.. I only downloaded 3 isos so this isn't a complete
> > set.
>
> I think trying to track down 11 to 16 years of creeping bloat now is pretty
> much a lost cause, but one thing I notic
On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 13:56, Kevin Kofler via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> > I did a check on some.. I only downloaded 3 isos so this isn't a complete
> > set.
>
>
>
> As for qt5-qtwebkit, I am not sure what dragged this in on F33. We have
> been
> tryi
Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> I did a check on some.. I only downloaded 3 isos so this isn't a complete
> set.
I think trying to track down 11 to 16 years of creeping bloat now is pretty
much a lost cause, but one thing I notice:
> The 20 largest packages on 33 is:
[snip]
> 47955205 qt5-qtwebkit
> 60
On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 11:28, Kevin Kofler via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > We need to be much stricter on size increases! In Fedora 9 (when the xz
> > compression for live images was introduced, which made it smaller than
> > Fedora 7 or 8), th
On Sat, 2023-02-11 at 18:38 +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Ben Cotton wrote:
> > 1–3. distribution — {Workstation,Everything,Server} boot x86_64 image
> > exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
>
> Let me guess, this is from the -fno-omit-frame-pointers Change? I have been
> asking for data on t
Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> We need to be much stricter on size increases! In Fedora 9 (when the xz
> compression for live images was introduced, which made it smaller than
> Fedora 7 or 8), the x86_64 KDE Spin was 729272320 bytes.
I have to correct myself: Fedora 9 was not where xz was introd
Chris Adams wrote:
> Can you stop grinding your axe against a decision you don't agree with?
> You're just "guessing" with zero evidence.
I have also seen zero evidence of the contrary (i.e., that the size change
is *not* significant), which should have been a prerequisite for accepting
the chan
Dne 11. 02. 23 v 18:53 Chris Adams napsal(a):
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler via devel said:
Ben Cotton wrote:
1–3. distribution — {Workstation,Everything,Server} boot x86_64 image
exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
Let me guess, this is from the -fno-omit-frame-pointers Change? I have been
ask
On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 5:52 PM Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2023-02-10 at 08:47 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote:
> >
> > Accepted blockers
> > -
> >
> > 1–3. distribution — {Workstation,Everything,Server} boot x86_64 image
> > exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
> > ACTION: Relevant Tea
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler via devel said:
> Ben Cotton wrote:
> > 1–3. distribution — {Workstation,Everything,Server} boot x86_64 image
> > exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
>
> Let me guess, this is from the -fno-omit-frame-pointers Change? I have been
> asking for data on the size impact an
Ben Cotton wrote:
> 1–3. distribution — {Workstation,Everything,Server} boot x86_64 image
> exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
Let me guess, this is from the -fno-omit-frame-pointers Change? I have been
asking for data on the size impact and I have been completely ignored both
by the Change owners
On Fri, 2023-02-10 at 08:47 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote:
>
> Accepted blockers
> -
>
> 1–3. distribution — {Workstation,Everything,Server} boot x86_64 image
> exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
> ACTION: Relevant Teams to reduce image size or increase the limit
>
> Accepted blockers
> -
On Friday, 10 February 2023 14:47:19 CET Ben Cotton wrote:
> 3. kwin — kwin_wayland often crashed when used as the sddm Wayland
> compositor and logging out of Plasma resulting in a black screen — NEW
> ACTION: Maintainer to diagnose issue
Before spending any significant amount of time on this, it
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