Re: Packages with `+` in name requires recreation of f42 and f43 branches.

2025-09-18 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, it looks like somebody created these branches successfully for f43, but we had the same problem with f42 and the f42 branch is still missing. For example: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/libsigc++30/branches -- ___ devel mailing list -- dev

Re: Orphaning some packages and reduced availability

2025-09-18 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, I just wanted to say thank you. Not only do you directly handle very many packages, but you also help me with my questions and problems on a regular basis. E.g. your guidance helped considerably when I was preparing the GNOME 49.rc update. Michael -- ___

Update to Wayland-only GNOME change proposal

2025-09-17 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, This is a quick announcement regarding: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WaylandOnlyGNOME The approved version of the change proposal said: > GDM will no longer support launching X11 sessions. Users of X11 will need to select another login manager and desktop environment that conti

Re: [F43] OpenH264 or NoOpenH264?

2025-09-14 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, Sep 13 2025 at 10:17:01 AM +02:00:00, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: Maybe it's worth moving fedora-cisco-openh264.repo to a separate subpackage (eg. fedora-repos-openh264) for easy removal? I would prefer to remove it outright for now. But yes, if we ever add it back then it should

What's the status of https://packages.fedoraproject.org/ ?

2025-09-11 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, The package version information on https://packages.fedoraproject.org/ in the Releases Overview is considerably outdated, e.g. in https://packages.fedoraproject.org/pkgs/orca/orca/ every version is wrong and it doesn't even realize that Fedora 43 branch exists yet. Do we have a bug repor

Re: [F43] OpenH264 or NoOpenH264?

2025-09-11 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Sep 11 2025 at 08:56:40 PM +02:00:00, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: Since Cisco started blocking access to the openh264 repository from a huge list of countries, I think that Fedora should disable and remove it as it violates all of Fedora's principles. I agree that it's time to

Re: Rawhide missing XFCE

2025-09-11 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Sep 11 2025 at 05:00:05 PM +02:00:00, Fabio Valentini wrote: No, that would be wrong. The package didn't subsume those third-party loaders - they were dropped completely, so it shouldn't Provide them. I added Provides anyway, since otherwise we'll have a bunch of broken packages in ra

Re: [F43] OpenH264 or NoOpenH264?

2025-09-11 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Sep 11 2025 at 07:13:02 PM -00:00:00, Leigh Scott wrote: openh264 should change it's obsoletes from Obsoletes: noopenh264 < 1:0 to Obsoletes: noopenh264 < %{version} I don't think this will work well in rawhide because it could be weeks or months between noopenh264 package update

Re: [F43] OpenH264 or NoOpenH264?

2025-09-11 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Sep 11 2025 at 09:07:36 PM +02:00:00, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: Well. https://test-videos.co.uk/vids/jellyfish/mp4/h264/1080/Jellyfish_1080_10s_1MB.mp4 plays fine in Firefox. Videos from https://videorx.com/h264-hardware-test/ play as well. Presumably you have RPM Fusion enabled and h

Re: Rawhide missing XFCE

2025-09-11 Thread Michael Catanzaro
gdk-pixbuf2 has a Provides: webp-pixbuf-loader that I had assumed would avoid this problem. But the update has only been stable for one day. Maybe your mirror is just a little behind? It is perfectly safe to remove the Requires from xfdesktop. See: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/li

Re: Changes to gdk-pixbuf2 in rawhide and F43

2025-09-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, Sep 6 2025 at 11:32:17 PM +02:00:00, Fabio Valentini wrote: For the record: glycin's HEIF loader uses libheif, not the "image" crate. So glycin-thumbnailer support for HEIF should be the same as that of libheif itself. Right, it should be. But the thumbnailers are nonetheless two dif

Re: Changes to gdk-pixbuf2 in rawhide and F43

2025-09-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Sep 5 2025 at 12:51:52 AM -07:00:00, Adam Williamson wrote: rmdepcheck unearthed something else that's apparently affected by the F44 megaupdate: package: gnome-mines-48.1-2.fc43.x86_64 from https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/repos/f44-build/latest/x86_64 rsvg-pixbuf-loader that is,

Re: Changes to gdk-pixbuf2 in rawhide and F43

2025-09-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Sep 5 2025 at 12:41:11 PM -00:00:00, Miloš Komarčević wrote: The heif-thumbnailer is a slightly different story, as it doesn't rely on gdk-pixbuf. Nonetheless, I have just asked upstream to add an option to disable it as well, so you could potentially add that patch to also skip pac

Re: Changes to gdk-pixbuf2 in rawhide and F43

2025-09-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Sep 5 2025 at 06:32:44 AM -05:00:00, Michael Catanzaro wrote: OK, so I missed a bunch of packages where action is required. This is why it's better to work in rawhide first. Do as I say, not as I do. I think the path of least resistance here is for me to add Provides in additi

Re: Changes to gdk-pixbuf2 in rawhide and F43

2025-09-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Let's do it. -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https:/

Re: Changes to gdk-pixbuf2 in rawhide and F43

2025-09-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Sep 5 2025 at 02:30:43 PM -07:00:00, Adam Williamson wrote: Are there not Obsoletes: in place? If not, how is this expected to work for GNOME users on upgrade? There are a bunch of Obsoletes, but not for the thumbnailer. Unfortunately the gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer is not its own subpack

API break announcement: libyelp

2025-09-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, In Yelp 49.rc, libyelp.so.0.0.0 is renamed to libyelp-1.so.0.0.0. See: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/yelp/-/merge_requests/76 I've done a reasonably cautious search for dependencies of yelp-libs and libyelp-1.so.0()(64bit) and assuming I haven't messed up, nothing in the distro depends

Re: Changes to gdk-pixbuf2 in rawhide and F43

2025-09-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Sep 5 2025 at 08:20:26 AM -07:00:00, Adam Williamson wrote: Sure it is? It's line 12 of gnome-mines.spec. Hm. Whatever I was looking at, it definitely was not gnome-mines.spec. -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Changes to gdk-pixbuf2 in rawhide and F43

2025-09-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
I'll investigate libheif. Hopefully it will be easy to submit a pull request. Didn't know about that one. I'll also rebuild gnome-mines. This inspired me to check for more problems: $ sudo dnf repoquery --whatrequires jxl-pixbuf-loader Updating and loading repositories: Repositories loaded.

Re: Changes to gdk-pixbuf2 in rawhide and F43

2025-09-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Thanks for responding quickly. On Fri, Sep 5 2025 at 03:05:11 AM -05:00:00, Benjamin Gilbert wrote: One option is to remove all loaders from gdk-pixbuf2-modules-extra except XPM, at least in Rawhide. I recommend doing this. Then we can see if anybody complains about the other missing loader

Re: Changes to gdk-pixbuf2 in rawhide and F43

2025-09-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Sep 4 2025 at 02:41:17 PM -07:00:00, Adam Williamson wrote: Not sure what's going on there, but since you mentioned thumbnailing it triggered my memory... Most likely will be fixed by this gdk-pixbuf2 update. At least, I sure hope so. PNG thumbnailing is working fine for me. The in

Re: Changes to gdk-pixbuf2 in rawhide and F43

2025-09-04 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Sep 4 2025 at 08:51:36 AM -05:00:00, Michael Catanzaro wrote: For libavif/jpegxl, my recommendation is review the build flags to disable building the gdk-pixbuf support, and remove the subpackages that provide the pixbuf loaders. Proposed https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/libavif

Re: devel Digest, Vol 259, Issue 15

2025-09-04 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Sep 4 2025 at 04:04:00 PM -05:00:00, Michael Catanzaro wrote: Coming soon. I'd actually really like to build it now, but I figure I should wait for a *small* amount of time between sending this proposal and implementing it. Unfortunately gdk-pixbuf is currently broken in i686 o

Re: devel Digest, Vol 259, Issue 15

2025-09-04 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Sep 4 2025 at 08:01:14 PM +02:00:00, Wolfgang wrote: Is there rebuilt of gdk-pixbuf2 against 2.0.rc version of glycin planed to support latest changes to fix https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glycin/-/issues/175 ? Coming soon. I'd actually really like to build it now, but I figure I sho

Re: Changes to gdk-pixbuf2 in rawhide and F43

2025-09-04 Thread Michael Catanzaro
There is one more problem. Third-party thumbnailers under /usr/share/thumbnailers that use gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer don't work anymore (and are no longer necessary). We should remove them from libavif, librsvg, and jpegxl. -- ___ devel mailing list

Re: Changes to gdk-pixbuf2 in rawhide and F43

2025-09-04 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Sep 4 2025 at 11:47:45 AM -04:00:00, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: Could glycin add XPM support? Or could the GdkPixbuf XPM loader be rewritten to use libXpm instead? I will ask Glycin upstream about XPM, but it's pretty obsolete so I wouldn't be surprised if the answer is "stop using XPM.

Re: Changes to gdk-pixbuf2 in rawhide and F43

2025-09-04 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Sep 4 2025 at 08:51:36 AM -05:00:00, Michael Catanzaro wrote: I have checked our gdk-pixbuf2-modules-extra package. I think the BMP, ICO, PNM, and TGA loaders are now obsolete and can safely be disabled. The other loaders provided by this package are still needed, but they cover

Changes to gdk-pixbuf2 in rawhide and F43

2025-09-04 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, If you are CCed on this mail, then action is required (mat2) or recommended (libavif, jpegxl, gdk-pixbuf2-modules-extra, webp-pixbuf-loader). I propose some *mildly* disruptive changes for the gdk-pixbuf2 package in rawhide and also F43. (I was tempted to do this only in rawhide, but th

Re: Intent to orphan obsolete gnome-sig packages

2025-08-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Indeed. Sorry for the confusion. On Thu, Aug 28 2025 at 07:39:36 PM -00:00:00, Leigh Scott wrote: I will take gnome-screenshot if mclasen has finished with it :-} Do you have some particular reason for wanting to keep it in the distro? If so, then OK. -- _

Re: Intent to orphan obsolete gnome-sig packages

2025-08-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Aug 28 2025 at 07:04:37 PM -00:00:00, Leigh Scott wrote: Have you filed a change proposal for this? No. Orphaning packages surely does not require a change proposal. Actually, we don't even have permission to orphan packages. Only the package owner can actually orphan a package. My p

Re: Intent to orphan obsolete gnome-sig packages

2025-08-27 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Aug 27 2025 at 01:52:46 PM -05:00:00, Michael Catanzaro wrote: Looks like gmime is also obsolete, replaced by gmime30. We should drop that as well. Hi, After a second pass, I identified a few additional packages that we will drop: gmime, glycin-loaders, gnome-doc-utils

Re: Intent to orphan obsolete gnome-sig packages

2025-08-27 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Looks like gmime is also obsolete, replaced by gmime30. We should drop that as well. -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs

Re: Intent to orphan obsolete gnome-sig packages

2025-08-27 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Aug 27 2025 at 09:57:08 AM -05:00:00, Michael Catanzaro wrote: almost all of the packages on this list (A few exceptions: gnome-packagekit, gnome-nettool, and gnome-screenshot still have non-archived git repos.) -- ___ devel mailing list

Re: Intent to orphan obsolete gnome-sig packages

2025-08-27 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Aug 27 2025 at 12:05:00 PM +02:00:00, Michal Schorm wrote: Could you please check which of them are used by Cinnamon spin? Hi, No, but Cinnamon maintainers are welcome to check the list and own whatever packages they need. Just keep in mind almost all of the packages on this lis

Re: Intent to orphan obsolete gnome-sig packages

2025-08-27 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Aug 27 2025 at 11:21:29 AM -00:00:00, Artur Frenszek-Iwicki wrote: I haven't really worked with GTK in any capacity, but I could try my hand at maintaining the package (unless someone more experienced steps up). Thanks! I don't think you actually require much experience to own this p

What to do if VPN connection is broken in Fedora 43

2025-08-18 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, after upgrading to Fedora 43 I noticed my OpenVPN connection was broken due to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/droppingOfCertPemFile I see in my journal: nm-openvpn[32218]: DEPRECATED OPTION: --cipher set to 'AES-256-CBC' but missing in --data-ciphers (AES-256-GCM:AES-128-GCM:CHACH

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard in fedora

2025-08-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Thanks for this. I agree this is a good solution, and that uapi group is clearly the right place for the successor to FHS. Tangent: it might be time for the standard to mention libexecdir. Omitting this was originally a good choice because it used to be specific to Fedora/RHEL ecosystem, and

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 77.1

2025-08-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Aug 6 2025 at 04:34:43 PM +02:00:00, Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: Remaining builds (mozjs*) will be fixed and addressed post side merging, But gnome-shell depends on mozjs. Won't this break the entire desktop? -- ___ devel mailing list -- dev

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard in fedora

2025-08-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Aug 6 2025 at 08:52:19 AM +02:00:00, Pavol Sloboda wrote: > Instead of adjusting to this text which is mostly of historical > interest, we should just use > https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/file-hierarchy.html. I agree that we should use something that reflects

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 77.1

2025-08-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, Aug 2 2025 at 03:11:46 PM -05:00:00, Michael Catanzaro wrote: It just so happens that I was about to start building a new WebKit update anyway (update to 2.49.4). I will use your side tag. Done. -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 77.1

2025-08-02 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, Aug 2 2025 at 02:43:51 PM +02:00:00, Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: Please, if you're going to make changes in affected packages before the side tag gets merged, make the build in the said side tag. I expect to merge the side tag asap with most of the affected packages built and then conti

Re: Windows Secure Boot certificate expiration (June 2026)

2025-07-09 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Your problem is: https://github.com/fwupd/fwupd/wiki/LVFS-Triaged-Issue:-dbx-efivarfs-IO-error -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http

Re: Windows Secure Boot certificate expiration (June 2026)

2025-07-09 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Jul 9 2025 at 11:28:19 AM +02:00:00, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: Problem with that is not so much linux, but that a KEK update has never happened before so there are chances that bios vendors messed up things and updating the KEK doesn't work. Also not sure how good older hardware is covered

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Drop i686 support (system wide)

2025-06-26 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Jun 26 2025 at 10:36:51 AM -05:00:00, Michael Catanzaro wrote: Notably, *both* of your examples are already impossible because you can't install glib2.i686 on an x86_64 system anymore due to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2258600. This is theoretically fixabl

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Drop i686 support (system wide)

2025-06-26 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Jun 26 2025 at 09:37:37 AM +02:00:00, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski via devel wrote: It is not. There are tons of Linux-native games, e.g. from GOG (gog.com) that people like myself have purchased and want to play. Many of them were built as 32-bit x86 only and use an old build of the

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Drop i686 support (system wide)

2025-06-25 Thread Michael Catanzaro
With Wine solved, it sounds like Steam is the only remaining concern. I think we could actually remove all 32-bit libraries *not* required by Steam for Fedora *43*. That should probably be uncontroversial, right? I know that doesn't do anything to help with our infrastructure concerns, but it

Nonresponsive maintainer check for Pete Walter

2025-06-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, Does anybody know how to contact Pete? He is not responding on his Yandex email. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2370444 This is regarding: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2369023 Thanks! -- ___ devel mailing list -- d

Re: Remove openh264?

2025-05-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, May 29 2025 at 05:30:52 PM -00:00:00, Leigh Scott wrote: How? open264 /path/to/file.mkv ? Open the file using any application that uses GStreamer or ffmpeg, so basically any video player or web browser. It notably makes most videos work in Firefox, Totem (F42 default video player),

Re: Remove openh264?

2025-05-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
If the user has RPM Fusion enabled, then openh264 is not necessary or desirable. RPM Fusion has better video decoders available. If you have figured out how to install video decoders from RPM Fusion, then disabling the Cisco repo would make sense. --

Re: Remove openh264?

2025-05-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, May 28 2025 at 06:18:41 PM -04:00:00, Neal Gompa wrote: Honestly, we don't really push for security like that. We have generally provided optionality, but that doesn't mean we want security to outweigh our community and usability. The crypto policies is an example of the problems caus

Re: Remove openh264?

2025-05-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
There are already several bug reports in different places: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/409 https://github.com/rpm-software-management/libdnf/issues/1649 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2274169 (CLOSED UPSTREAM) -- ___ devel

Re: Remove openh264?

2025-05-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, May 28 2025 at 04:51:33 PM -05:00:00, Chris Adams wrote: This package is for playing one particular encoding of videos (and only certain profiles of that encoding from what I understand). There's also nothing preventing Fedora from pointing users to Cisco's site to get their provide

Re: Remove openh264?

2025-05-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, May 28 2025 at 03:19:49 PM -05:00:00, Chris Adams wrote: So it's been another month and this still isn't resolved. I know people on the Fedora side have been trying (don't want to complain about effort). But if Fedora can't reliably get timely updates to a package that has high securi

uncrustify license correction

2025-05-19 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hello, I'm correcting the license of uncrustify from GPL-2.0-only to GPL-2.0-or-later. Michael -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: h

Re: Remove openh264?

2025-04-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Apr 29 2025 at 11:56:15 AM -05:00:00, Michael Catanzaro wrote: For context on this, see: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12617 And also: https://github.com/cisco/openh264/security/advisories/GHSA-m99q-5j7x-7m9x -- ___ devel mailing list

Re: Remove openh264?

2025-04-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Too bad dnf does not tell us *why* there are "conflicting requests." On Tue, Apr 29 2025 at 11:00:18 AM -05:00:00, Chris Adams wrote: I'm asking because there's a high-priority CVE on openh264 for months that doesn't seem like it's progressing towards getting resolved in Fedora. For context

Re: F42 Change Proposal: CMake drop non-standard variables (system-wide)

2025-04-17 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Apr 17 2025 at 10:28:21 AM +02:00:00, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: Sorry, but I'm still skeptical about this change. I don't see any real benefits for Fedora. I only see additional pain for maintainers. Hmm, but it is one-time pain. If you use a nonstandard variable, your package w

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

2025-04-15 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Apr 15 2025 at 05:40:43 PM +01:00:00, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I've no argument that Webex is hot proprietary garbage, just saying that it was once noted as being a blocker. Let's agree that anything we cannot fix also cannot be a blocker. Third-party proprietary software has had two

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

2025-04-15 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Apr 15 2025 at 12:31:48 PM -04:00:00, Neal Gompa wrote: This is rude and uncalled for. The Flatpak is an unsupported way to use Steam since it has issues with gamepads, can't access game drives, and messes with the built-in sandbox provided by Steam. OK, but we surely cannot block i

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

2025-04-15 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Apr 15 2025 at 05:18:06 PM +01:00:00, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: What about Webex, the awful video conferencing software? I've no desire to investigate this, but ISTR it linked to system i686 libs. Irrelevant. Webex has a web UI. Use that instead. Continuing to build i686 packages jus

Re: GDM dropped support for running X11 sessions in F42 without a Change?

2025-04-15 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Apr 15 2025 at 12:23:06 AM +02:00:00, Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: I've opened a PR which restores gdm/X11 support at: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gdm/pull-request/28# It builds, I'll be able to test it in a few hours, but anybody is free and welcome to give it a try once the

Re: RFC: Lightweight stalled request process

2025-04-14 Thread Michael Catanzaro
I think the practical effect of the lightweight process will be: new contributor likely becomes the de facto maintainer of the package, while bug reports continue to be assigned to the non-responsive main admin. Maybe it's better to just rip the band-aid off and acknowledge that when a main

Re: RFC: Lightweight stalled request process

2025-04-14 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Apr 15 2025 at 01:19:10 AM +02:00:00, Fabio Valentini wrote: The non-responsive maintainer process requires that the maintainer is *entirely unresponsive*, which is a much higher bar than for this proposed, less-consequential process. If the maintainer is not unresponsive, why can't y

Re: GDM dropped support for running X11 sessions in F42 without a Change?

2025-04-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
So on the one hand, it seems a little petty for Fedora to disable X11 support in gdm before upstream does. It's notably still enabled by default in upstream GNOME 48 and in git master. On the other hand, if we're confident upstream is likely going to remove the X11 support relatively soon, t

Re: GDM dropped support for running X11 sessions in F42 without a Change?

2025-04-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Apr 9 2025 at 05:51:00 PM -07:00:00, Kevin Fenzi wrote: If you aren't using gnome and want X11 sessions, you should have switched to another display manager long ago. When gdm switched to being a gnome session in the greeter... I'm not sure how many years ago that was now. I think th

Re: packaging: prefer git archives to upstream archives for Source

2025-03-31 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Mar 31 2025 at 08:09:49 PM +00:00:00, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: OK, I guess I need to work on my English. You're the second person who read the abovequoted part in the exact opposite way to what I intended :( Hm, well I misread. You didn't write the wrong thing. But honestly

Re: packaging: prefer git archives to upstream archives for Source

2025-03-31 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Mar 31 2025 at 10:53:54 AM +00:00:00, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: This is only "SHOULD", because sometimes the git tarball is too large or has other deficiencies. Another reason is that the "upstream tarball" may be signed, and that'd be preferred to the unsigned "raw" archive. B

Re: SONAME BUMP openh264

2025-03-13 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Fabio is going to handle builds. Thank you, Fabio! -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/cod

Re: SONAME BUMP openh264

2025-03-13 Thread Michael Catanzaro
It seems nothing except GStreamer has been rebuilt. -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/co

Re: SONAME BUMP openh264

2025-03-13 Thread Michael Catanzaro
It's been more than one week. Are we ready to land this side tag? -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en

Re: Builds and updates missing from Fedora 42 compared to Fedora 41

2025-03-11 Thread Michael Catanzaro
I'm pretty concerned that we have no automation to catch these problems. Would we have even noticed if not for you manually checking and complaining here on devel@? -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an e

Re: Konflux: What is the right time?

2025-03-11 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, Mar 8 2025 at 06:27:19 AM -08:00:00, Neal Gompa wrote: If I'm answering that question for myself, I would say that the biggest feature gap that we have from a modern build system like the Open Build Service is that we as packagers have to do dependency resolution for building groups of p

Re: Konflux: What is the right time?

2025-03-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Mar 10 2025 at 11:11:33 AM +00:00:00, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Thanks for this link. The instance is: https://konflux.apps.kfluxfedorap01.toli.p1.openshiftapps.com/application-pipeline I played around for about 3 minutes and am very confused. The overview page looks like an adverti

Possible to use 'fedpkg mockbuild' with a side tag?

2025-03-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, I am wondering if it is possible to use 'fedpkg mockbuild' to easily build for a side tag. I know that it's possible by using 'koji mock-config' and then 'fedpkg mockbuild --mock-config' but this is not easy since it requires creating a local mock configuration file. Would be nice if it we

Re: SONAME BUMP openh264

2025-03-04 Thread Michael Catanzaro
The new noopenh264 is now available in the side tag. Packagers, please start your builds! -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https:/

Re: SONAME BUMP openh264

2025-03-04 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Mar 4 2025 at 02:46:12 PM -00:00:00, Leigh Scott wrote: You will need to update noopenh264 to match openh264 Yes, noopenh264 is what packages are actually built against. We'll need to do a new noopenh264 build using f43-build-side-106953 first, then once that's finished other maintai

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Switch to JXL format for Default Wallpaper (self-contained)

2025-02-26 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Feb 24 2025 at 01:54:15 PM -05:00:00, Neal Gompa wrote: Didn't we already do this? I adapted KDE Plasma, MiracleWM, LXQt, and COSMIC for this in F42 already. And now GNOME is switching back to regular JPEG, see: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/6886#note_2360630 htt

Re: Proposal for vendoring/bundling golang packages by default

2025-01-21 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Jan 21 2025 at 05:13:07 AM -05:00:00, Neal Gompa wrote: We know it's possible because this is how openSUSE works today. They never schedule mass builds because they always happen automatically with the right conditions, so it's a non-event. This is the direction we should be going, but b

Re: Looking for gtk3 + cmake advice for an older package (puzzles)

2025-01-03 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Guess: is it caused by -Wl,as-needed? You could try this workaround in the spec file and see if that helps: %undefine _ld_as_needed The proper fix is surely to link libcore.so to everything that it needs (glib, cairo, and the libcommon which provides spectre_tiling_params_invalid) but this

Re: pkcs11-provider update breaks eduroam

2024-11-30 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Nov 29 2024 at 08:09:20 PM -05:00:00, Neal Gompa wrote: Indeed. This stuff should work out of the box. It is unacceptable to break it like this. Looks like it's fixed by pkcs11-provider-0.6-2, which is a sabotage update to turn off pkcs11-provider until the problem can be fixed prope

Re: pkcs11-provider update breaks eduroam

2024-11-22 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Nov 20 2024 at 04:03:27 PM +01:00:00, Clemens Lang wrote: That was the case with openssl-pkcs11 (the package that contains the OpenSSL PKCS#11 ENGINE) for years. The use of PKCS#11 tokens is not very common. I don’t think it’s too much to ask to install an additional package if you want

Re: pkcs11-provider update breaks eduroam

2024-11-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Nov 20 2024 at 11:09:05 AM +01:00:00, Clemens Lang wrote: The idea here was to auto-enable pkcs11-provider when it is installed, which still makes sense to me. The issue here I think is that many people ended up with pkcs11-provider installed because of a recommendation. We should remo

Re: correctly packaging dconf overrides

2024-11-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Nov 7 2024 at 02:41:08 PM +01:00:00, Vojtěch Polášek wrote: Any idea what I am doing wrong? Probably nothing. dconf is a lower layer than gsettings. You've changed the default value in gsettings, which is what you're supposed to do. I suggest you just forget about dconf; that's an ir

Re: correctly packaging dconf overrides

2024-11-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Nov 7 2024 at 04:40:07 PM +01:00:00, Vojtěch Polášek wrote: I can't find much documentation, but how to properly override relocatable schema? A, OK, so that's the problem. If it worked, then the syntax would be: [schema:path] e.g. [org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys.

Re: Fedora 42: The Answer to Life, The Universe and Everything

2024-11-04 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Nov 4 2024 at 10:52:18 AM -05:00:00, Stephen Gallagher wrote: For the sake of keeping the conversation in one place, I do ask that you reply on the Discussion thread, rather than on Fedora Devel, please. Heh, that was a good joke! -- ___ de

Re: correctly packaging dconf overrides

2024-11-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Nov 1 2024 at 05:13:49 PM +01:00:00, Leon Fauster via devel wrote: Ok, thanks. Following questions arised here now: - An explanation, why its bad would bring some light into this. Dconf is not the only possible GSettings backend. E.g. if your RPM gets used to build a Flatpak app, t

Re: correctly packaging dconf overrides

2024-11-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Nov 1 2024 at 03:13:21 PM +01:00:00, Leon Fauster via devel wrote: I had the impression that globally installed configurations (e.g. /etc/dconf/db/local.d/) should be "committed" with # dconf update No, don't do this. For the same reason you never package dconf overrides, you also nev

Re: correctly packaging dconf overrides

2024-11-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Nov 1 2024 at 11:04:51 AM +01:00:00, Vojtěch Polášek wrote: Hello Michael, this seems to be what I am searching for. But any idea how to package this properly? Is it enough to install the file and mention it in the %files section? Yes. Or do I have to run some %post command?

Re: correctly packaging dconf overrides

2024-10-25 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Oct 25 2024 at 10:01:02 AM +02:00:00, Vojtěch Polášek wrote: I would like to customize some keybindings because they are not set from the start. I think the best would be to use dconf overrides. dconf overrides are intended for system administrators and should never be packaged. Yo

Re: Improvements in name resolution, DNS and HTTPS RR and SVCB future usage

2024-10-21 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Oct 21 2024 at 02:51:56 PM +02:00:00, Lennart Poettering wrote: I know you don't like systemd-resolved, but maybe you can at least acknowledge that is does exist. The nice thing about IPC APIs is it's easy to reimplement them however you please, similar to how elogind reimplements man

Help wanted with another tricky potential F41 blocker

2024-10-18 Thread Michael Catanzaro
If anybody has any grand ideas, we also don't know what's wrong in this issue: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2316066 My best guess is that some component is looking at wall clock time when monotonic time is required, causing D-Bus calls or systemd service activation to time out.

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-11 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Oct 10 2024 at 05:36:25 PM +02:00:00, Lennart Poettering wrote: I wished Fedora would focus more on making Measured Boot by default a thing (other distros are working towards that, for example SUSE has been investing in that), but Fedora is not precisely leading in this effort right now.

Re: 0-Day: Fedora needs urgent Firefox update 131.0.2 ( current: 131.0.0 )

2024-10-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Oct 10 2024 at 11:25:30 AM +02:00:00, Alexander Sosedkin wrote: Don't Panic. https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/firefox lists 131.0-2 in all branches, https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=37 lists a dozen of 131.0-2 builds as well. Sent from a $ rpm -q firefox fir

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Oct 7 2024 at 12:59:46 PM -04:00:00, Simo Sorce wrote: Changing a default like this is not something to do lightly IMHO. I'm interested in systemd-homed because we currently have no other plausible path towards encryption of user data by default [1] (since use of LUKS full-disk encry

Re: Request for help for packaging new potential Workstation default apps

2024-09-17 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Sep 17 2024 at 07:19:23 AM -04:00:00, Neal Gompa wrote: Amberol[2] I've been using Amberol as my primary audio player for half a year, and I don't think it's a good choice. I would focus on Decibels. -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lis

Re: Build failure due to glib change

2024-09-02 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Sep 2 2024 at 07:56:58 AM +02:00:00, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: Michael, if you still feel this should be reported upstream, there is this bug in Debian Sid - our systems haven't filed an FTBFS bug yet: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1078386 I'd say the return ty

Re: Build failure due to glib change

2024-09-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
We should probably revert that. If you have a GNOME GitLab account, feel free to create an issue report. Otherwise, I can do so. -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproje

Re: buildstream: breackage on package update from 1.x to 2.x

2024-08-11 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, Aug 11 2024 at 04:47:17 PM -00:00:00, Javier Jardón via devel wrote: I guess updating in f40 would require additional processes? Yeah. Just don't. :) The alternative would be to create buildstream2 as a compat package and introduce it into F40 as a new package. I don't see much point

Re: Following up on: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-07-31 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Jul 31 2024 at 09:23:12 AM -07:00:00, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Some possible ones I'll toss out there: avahi-daemon cups rsyslog dovecot cockpit Maybe gnome-remote-desktop? -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: FedoraWorkstation default firewall rules unsafe

2024-07-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, Jul 28 2024 at 11:37:15 AM +02:00:00, Arthur Bols via devel wrote: Aside that this does not contribute to the discussion at all, I believe it is reasonable to assume that the default firewall rules are strict enough to not open all ports above 1024... That being said, it's an example, a

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