Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-04-01 Thread Kathleen Wilson
Thank you to those of you who have reviewed this request and contributed to the discussion. Your time and commitment to this process is greatly appreciated! To summarize this discussion, there were three areas that were of primary interest. They were: 1) Inclusion of a root that expires in a year

Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-31 Thread Eddy Nigg
Rolf, thank you for your answers! On 03/31/2009 10:05 AM, Rolf Lindemann: Regarding b) No, this does not necessarily apply to all sub CAs which might appear in the future. In the future we might also get customers which want to use such certificates externally. We'll add the requirement to publi

Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-31 Thread Rolf Lindemann
The open questions about externally operated sub-CAs are (Hope I got all): a) Can you explain into more depth how exactly the relying parties remain company internal? b) Does this apply to all sub CAs which potentially may appear in the future? c) How are the CA certificates protected? d) Can this

Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-28 Thread Rolf Lindemann
I am waiting for some feedback from our root signing customer. I will respond to these questions early next week. -- Dr. Rolf Lindemann Director Product Management TC TrustCenter GmbH Sonninstrasse 24-28, 20097 Hamburg Office: +49 40 808026-300 Fax: +49 40 808026-126 Email: lind

Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-26 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/26/2009 12:27 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote [in part]: > 1) Inclusion of a root that expires in a year and half > A concern has been raised about including the TC TrustCenter Class 1 > CA root when it will be phased out before the end of 2010. > * This root has four internally-operated subordinate

Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-26 Thread Kathleen Wilson
To summarize this discussion, there are three areas that need to be resolved. They are: 1) Inclusion of a root that expires in a year and half. 2) Questions about the Class 0 certificates that are part of the CPS. 3) Questions about the externally-operated subordinate CAs. *** 1) Inclusion of a ro

Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-23 Thread Eddy Nigg
Hi Rolf, Thank you for taking your time here. Please allow me a few more questions... On 03/23/2009 07:14 PM, Rolf Lindemann: 1. General description of the sub-CAs operated by third parties. --> This sub-CA 1 is used to issue certificate to company internal devices. All relying parties are co

Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-23 Thread Rolf Lindemann
Hi, Here our statement regarding the SubordinateCA checklist requirements: There are only two subordinate CAs issued by the root certificates related to this request. Both Sub-CAs are operated by a third party for internal use only. Regarding Sub-CA 1, which is chained to “TC Class 2 CA II” Be

Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-19 Thread Kathleen Wilson
>> There are a small number of external CAs that have been signed by our root. Of the four roots being considered for inclusion (TC TrustCenter Class 1 CA, TC TrustCenter Class 2 CA II, TC TrustCenter Class 3 CA II, TC TrustCenter Universal CA I) which one(s) have or will have subordinate CAs that

Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-18 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 03/18/2009 04:39 PM, Rolf Lindemann: There are a small number of external CAs that have been signed by our root. They are not part of a formal audit but our Director of Security does audit and review their CPS'. There are no requirements for the external entities to undergo third party audits

Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-18 Thread Kyle Hamilton
You seem to misunderstand the reason there's friction here. (I do understand your reasoning -- there are a lot of active certificates in active use under that root, and you would like to see Thunderbird support them.) However: Over the past several years, the process for getting CAs approved has

Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-18 Thread Rolf Lindemann
Hi, >The comment from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=392024#c42 >and further in comment 44 suggests that there *are* external sub >ordinate CA certificates. Do we know how many and if they were included >in the audits? Also will they be part of the audits or are only the >control

Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-18 Thread Rolf Lindemann
Hi, >http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/certs/pending/#TC%20TrustCenter >the first entry refers to a root (TC TrustCenter Class 1 CA) >with a key size of 1024 bit and which expires at the 2011-01-01. I think >it's unreasonable to expect to have this root considered for inclusion >and this

Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-18 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 03/18/2009 10:53 AM, Rolf Lindemann: Hi, It is planned to phase out the "TC Class 2 CA" and "TC Class 3 CA" 1024 bit root certificates - which are already been included in Mozilla - before end of 2010. There is not yet a schedule for phasing out the "TC Class 2 CA II" and "TC Class 3 CA II"

Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-18 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 03/18/2009 10:46 AM, Rolf Lindemann: Hi, There was the question what the relationship of this root insertion request to our Class 0 certificate is: TC Class 0 certificates are used for testing purposes only. TC TrustCenter intentionally did not ask for insertion of the "TC Class 0" root cert

Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-18 Thread Rolf Lindemann
Hi, It is planned to phase out the "TC Class 2 CA" and "TC Class 3 CA" 1024 bit root certificates - which are already been included in Mozilla - before end of 2010. There is not yet a schedule for phasing out the "TC Class 2 CA II" and "TC Class 3 CA II" root certificates. We'll continue to use

Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-18 Thread Rolf Lindemann
Hi, There was the question what the relationship of this root insertion request to our Class 0 certificate is: TC Class 0 certificates are used for testing purposes only. TC TrustCenter intentionally did not ask for insertion of the "TC Class 0" root certificate. The "TC Universal" roots have not

Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-12 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 03/09/2009 10:51 PM, kathleen95...@yahoo.com: * The TC TrustCenter Class 1 CA root has four internally-operated subordinate CAs which issue certificates for email and SSL client authentication. Only the email trust bit is requested for this root. Note that this root is 1024 bit and it expires

Re: TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-09 Thread Kyle Hamilton
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:51 PM, wrote: > Summary of Information Gathered and Verified: > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=362354 > > Some quick comments regarding noteworthy points: > > * The TC TrustCenter Class 1 CA root has four internally-operated > subordinate CAs which issue

TC TrustCenter Root Inclusion Request

2009-03-09 Thread kathleen95014
As per the CA Schedule at https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:Schedule TC TrustCenter is the next request in the queue for public discussion. TC TrustCenter (a commercial company based in Germany, with customers in all major regions of the world) has applied to add four root CA certificates to the Mozilla