Re: Server Gated Cryptography

2009-01-29 Thread Michael Ströder
Nelson B Bolyard wrote: > Gervase Markham wrote, On 2009-01-26 05:27: >> Nelson Bolyard wrote: If it is the latter, what would be the effect of us removing the SSL Step Up trust bit in NSS for the list of roots you give? >>> No effect whatsoever. >> Super. Would you care to file a bug to

Re: Server Gated Cryptography

2009-01-28 Thread Gervase Markham
Nelson B Bolyard wrote: > What would the motive be for writing a patch that has no effect? Because any CA which still uses Step Up or SGC to sell their certs over those of their competitors is either just using FUD or is promoting the use of insecure browsers. I want our code to have nothing to do

Re: Server Gated Cryptography

2009-01-26 Thread Kyle Hamilton
"what is THIS bit? And why is it set on some and not others?" It's vestigial, and it should be removed simply as good housekeeping. If this is the attitude of all of the Mozilla devs, no wonder it's impossible to figure out the codebase without devoting weeks to studying it. I humbly suggest th

Re: Server Gated Cryptography

2009-01-26 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
Gervase Markham wrote, On 2009-01-26 05:27: > Nelson Bolyard wrote: >>> If it is the latter, what would be the effect of us removing the SSL >>> Step Up trust bit in NSS for the list of roots you give? >> No effect whatsoever. > > Super. Would you care to file a bug to do that, or shall I? :-) Wh

Re: Server Gated Cryptography

2009-01-26 Thread Gervase Markham
Nelson Bolyard wrote: >> If it is the latter, what would be the effect of us removing the SSL >> Step Up trust bit in NSS for the list of roots you give? > > No effect whatsoever. Super. Would you care to file a bug to do that, or shall I? :-) Gerv -- dev-tech-crypto mailing list dev-tech-crypto

Re: Server Gated Cryptography

2009-01-20 Thread Nelson Bolyard
Gervase Markham wrote, On 2009-01-20 20:33: > Nelson B Bolyard wrote: >> In Mozilla products, no roots have ever been SGC enabled. >> Some roots were, and still are, marked as trusted for SSL Step Up. >> Here's a list. > > Is the marking internal to or external to the cert? The fact that you > say

Re: Server Gated Cryptography

2009-01-20 Thread Gervase Markham
Nelson B Bolyard wrote: > In Mozilla products, no roots have ever been SGC enabled. > Some roots were, and still are, marked as trusted for SSL Step Up. > Here's a list. Is the marking internal to or external to the cert? The fact that you say no certs have ever been SGC-enabled makes me suspect t

Re: Server Gated Cryptography

2009-01-20 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
srdavid...@gmail.com wrote, On 2009-01-20 11:48: >> Yes, those browsers allowed SGC/Step-up only for a restricted list of >> pre-installed root CA certificates. > > Anyone have a list of the specific roots that are SGC enabled? > Many of them must be due for expiry soon. SSL Step Up is differen

Re: Server Gated Cryptography

2009-01-20 Thread srdavidson
> Yes, those browsers allowed SGC/Step-up only for a restricted list of > pre-installed root CA certificates. Anyone have a list of the specific roots that are SGC enabled? Many of them must be due for expiry soon. Is the intent to renew/replace them with SGC super-powers, or to let SGC fade awa

Re: Server Gated Cryptography

2009-01-20 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Gervase Markham wrote: Does anyone know where I can find a definitive list of browsers for whom SGC is helpful? That is to say, a list of browsers for which, if I connected to a site with an SGC certificate, would provide a higher grade of encryption than if I connected to an identical site with

Re: Server Gated Cryptography

2009-01-19 Thread Nelson Bolyard
Gervase Markham wrote, On 2009-01-19 14:11: > Does anyone know where I can find a definitive list of browsers for whom > SGC is helpful? That is to say, a list of browsers for which, if I > connected to a site with an SGC certificate, would provide a higher > grade of encryption than if I connected

Server Gated Cryptography

2009-01-19 Thread Gervase Markham
Does anyone know where I can find a definitive list of browsers for whom SGC is helpful? That is to say, a list of browsers for which, if I connected to a site with an SGC certificate, would provide a higher grade of encryption than if I connected to an identical site with a non-SGC certificate? A