Re: AES-256 vs. AES-128

2015-12-01 Thread Brian Smith
Julien Vehent wrote: > > The discussion above was biased in favor of what was best for FirefoxOS > and > > FxAndroid. > > AES-NI has also removed mosts concerns around bad implementations of > AES, so it seems that the attacks we were concerned about two years ago > do not apply anymore. > I thi

Re: AES-256 vs. AES-128

2015-12-01 Thread Wan-Teh Chang
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Julien Vehent wrote: > > AES-NI is fast enough that we shouldn't have to care: > > $ openssl speed -evp aes-256-gcm > type 16 bytes 64 bytes256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes > aes-256-gcm 385250.93k 983154.24k 2011460.35k 2620519.76k 3

Re: AES-256 vs. AES-128

2015-12-01 Thread Julien Vehent
On Mon 30.Nov'15 at 11:37:18 -1000, Brian Smith wrote: > Julien Vehent wrote: > > > The original thread [1] had a long discussion on this topic. The DJB batch > > attack redefines the landscape, but does not address the original concerns > > around AES-256 resistance. To me, the main question is

Re: AES-256 vs. AES-128

2015-11-30 Thread Brian Smith
Julien Vehent wrote: > The original thread [1] had a long discussion on this topic. The DJB batch > attack redefines the landscape, but does not address the original concerns > around AES-256 resistance. To me, the main question is to verify whether > AES-256 implementations are at least as resis

Re: AES-256 vs. AES-128

2015-11-30 Thread Robert Relyea
On 11/30/2015 12:07 PM, Julien Vehent wrote: On 2015-11-30 12:47, Robert Relyea wrote: I've always found the 128 bit prioritized over 256 a silly recommendation, I support reordering. Can you expand on why you think it is silly? The argument went that 128 bit was 'sufficient' and there was a

Re: AES-256 vs. AES-128

2015-11-30 Thread Julien Vehent
On 2015-11-30 12:47, Robert Relyea wrote: I've always found the 128 bit prioritized over 256 a silly recommendation, I support reordering. Can you expand on why you think it is silly? The original thread [1] had a long discussion on this topic. The DJB batch attack redefines the landscape, bu

Re: AES-256 vs. AES-128

2015-11-30 Thread Robert Relyea
On 11/25/2015 02:01 PM, April King wrote: My colleague Julien Vehent and I are in the process of updating the Mozilla Server Side TLS documentation: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Server_Side_TLS One of the topics of conversation was whether or not the Modern TLS configuration should prefe

Re: AES-256 vs. AES-128

2015-11-25 Thread Reed Loden
Other recommended reading when discussing this: https://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/5118/is-aes-256-weaker-than-192-and-128-bit-versions https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/07/another_new_aes.html https://www.reddit.com/r/crypto/comments/39211m/is_really_aes256_less_secure_than_ae