Re: StartCom Root Certificate Inclusion Request

2007-05-25 Thread Gervase Markham
Alaric Dailey wrote: > There were CAs approved in the past with non-webtrust audits much older then > that. Just see http://hecker.org/mozilla/ca-certificate-list As a point of fact, that list is not a list of approved CAs, it's a list of applications. Gerv __

Re: StartCom Root Certificate Inclusion Request

2007-05-25 Thread Alaric Dailey
Kaspar Brand wrote: > > Alaric Dailey wrote: > > I'd like to remind the participants, that StartCom has already one CA root > > in the NSS store which was approved less then a year ago: > That doesn't imply everything was perfect with this application at that > time. Have you ever seen a roo

Re: StartCom Root Certificate Inclusion Request

2007-05-25 Thread Gervase Markham
Merely commenting on matters of fact: Kaspar Brand wrote: > That doesn't imply everything was perfect with this application at that > time. Have you ever seen a root certificate with a nonRepudiation > keyUsage extension? Yes, Startcom's current one does have that... Or, > what RSA key size would

Re: StartCom Root Certificate Inclusion Request

2007-05-24 Thread Kaspar Brand
Alaric Dailey wrote: > I'd like to remind the participants, that StartCom has already one CA root > in the NSS store which was approved less then a year ago: That doesn't imply everything was perfect with this application at that time. Have you ever seen a root certificate with a nonRepudiation ke

Re: StartCom Root Certificate Inclusion Request

2007-05-24 Thread David E. Ross
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > David would you be comfortable if all the 70+ CAs in the root store > dropped their well-regulated WebTrust audits and went with security > reviews like this one? That'd be fun to administrate. > > Part of the reason that Mozilla should want audits to be done by real >

RE: StartCom Root Certificate Inclusion Request

2007-05-24 Thread Alaric Dailey
I'd like to remind the participants, that StartCom has already one CA root in the NSS store which was approved less then a year ago: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=289077#c18 The StartCom CA is also included in Apple and KDE, based on the same audit. This is a request for an addition

Re: StartCom Root Certificate Inclusion Request

2007-05-24 Thread sdavidson
David would you be comfortable if all the 70+ CAs in the root store dropped their well-regulated WebTrust audits and went with security reviews like this one? That'd be fun to administrate. Part of the reason that Mozilla should want audits to be done by real auditors is that those specialists ha

Re: StartCom Root Certificate Inclusion Request

2007-05-24 Thread David E. Ross
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is a broader comment on the Mozilla CA policy. If the desire is > to include security reviews that are equivalent to a WebTrust audit, > then for reviews against technical standards like ETSI the policy > should require annual reviews as well as provide more detail

Re: StartCom Root Certificate Inclusion Request

2007-05-24 Thread Gervase Markham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is a broader comment on the Mozilla CA policy. If the desire is > to include security reviews that are equivalent to a WebTrust audit, > then for reviews against technical standards like ETSI the policy > should require annual reviews We plan to do a round of upda

Re: StartCom Root Certificate Inclusion Request

2007-05-23 Thread Kaspar Brand
> should require annual reviews as well as provide more detail on what > comprises a "Competent Party" (is it an auditor with professional > obligations, or simply someone who's been around the block?). I fully agree, and consider this the fundamental issue with this particular inclusion request (

Re: StartCom Root Certificate Inclusion Request

2007-05-23 Thread srdavidson
This is a broader comment on the Mozilla CA policy. If the desire is to include security reviews that are equivalent to a WebTrust audit, then for reviews against technical standards like ETSI the policy should require annual reviews as well as provide more detail on what comprises a "Competent Pa