Re: Microsoft COFEE

2008-05-03 Thread Adam Back
I think the point is microsoft is storing passwords rather than salted, iterated hashes of passwords, storing EFS symmetric keys in clear text or lightly obfuscated in LSA keys which is not encrypted, just protected by policy tied to the windows login, and all these insecure things vs say linux loo

RE: Microsoft COFEE

2008-05-03 Thread Alan
> Arshad Noor wrote on 30 April 2008 20:36: > >> It can be "ordered to decrypt system passwords"??? So, I wonder >> what attackers can do with this... > > They can run pwdump, lsadump, samdump, dump the pstore, snarf the SAM, > all > that kind of stuff that is completely routine and everyday. >

Re: Microsoft COFEE

2008-04-30 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
Arshad Noor wrote: > It can be "ordered to decrypt system passwords"??? So, I wonder what > attackers can do with this... > > Arshad Noor StrongAuth, Inc. > > "Microsoft revealed its development of a digital forensic analysis toolkit at > a security conference yesterday as part of a wider discus

Microsoft COFEE

2008-04-30 Thread Arshad Noor
It can be "ordered to decrypt system passwords"??? So, I wonder what attackers can do with this... Arshad Noor StrongAuth, Inc. "Microsoft revealed its development of a digital forensic analysis toolkit at a security conference yesterday as part of a wider discussion of how technology can be u