Re: CA liability. was: Publishing CA information documents in PDF format

2008-12-24 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
Kyle Hamilton wrote, On 2008-12-24 08:39: > On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Ian G wrote: >> PS: on an earlier comment, check this out: >> >> http://blogs.technet.com/mmpc/archive/2008/11/06/malware-and-signed-code.aspx >> >> This is, IMHO, the sort of work that Mozilla should be treating as more

Re: CA liability. was: Publishing CA information documents in PDF format

2008-12-24 Thread Kyle Hamilton
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Ian G wrote: > PS: on an earlier comment, check this out: > > http://blogs.technet.com/mmpc/archive/2008/11/06/malware-and-signed-code.aspx > > This is, IMHO, the sort of work that Mozilla should be treating as more > important than today's case, because it evidenc

Re: CA liability. was: Publishing CA information documents in PDF format

2008-12-24 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/24/2008 3:36 AM, Ian G wrote: > Hi David, > > On 24/12/08 02:23, David E. Ross wrote: > {long diatribe by iang on liability snipped} > >> See the thread "Unbelievable" in this newsgroup. >> >> Now we have the situation in which Comodo allowed third-party CAs under >> its root to issue site

Re: CA liability. was: Publishing CA information documents in PDF format

2008-12-24 Thread Ian G
On 24/12/08 12:36, Ian G wrote: Hi David, I would expect that Comodo would say that their RPA sets the scene, the baseline. I found this: http://www.comodo.com/repository/ http://www.comodo.com/repository/docs/relying_party.html Now, this might not be the right doc. But, let's assume it is, for

Re: CA liability. was: Publishing CA information documents in PDF format

2008-12-24 Thread Ian G
Hi David, On 24/12/08 02:23, David E. Ross wrote: {long diatribe by iang on liability snipped} See the thread "Unbelievable" in this newsgroup. Now we have the situation in which Comodo allowed third-party CAs under its root to issue site certificates without proper authentication of the subsc

Re: CA liability. was: Publishing CA information documents in PDF format

2008-12-23 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/18/2008 2:09 PM, Ian G wrote: > On 18/12/08 18:25, Anders Rundgren wrote: >> CA liability has been focused on the RP since it an RP that "trusts" a CA >> and its certificates, right? > > > Um! > > If one takes a PKI view, then there exist 3 main parties: CA, RP, > Subscriber. However ot

Re: CA liability. was: Publishing CA information documents in PDF format

2008-12-23 Thread Ian G
On 18/12/08 18:25, Anders Rundgren wrote: CA liability has been focused on the RP since it an RP that "trusts" a CA and its certificates, right? Um! If one takes a PKI view, then there exist 3 main parties: CA, RP, Subscriber. However other views exist. Liabiliy is an issue at law (in th

CA liability. was: Publishing CA information documents in PDF format

2008-12-18 Thread Anders Rundgren
CA liability has been focused on the RP since it an RP that "trusts" a CA and its certificates, right? A problem with this notion is that there is no end to what a wrongly certified entity could cause in damages, particularly not for "eID" kind of certificates that potentially opens any number of