Re: Road to RC4-free web (the case for YouTube without RC4)

2014-07-01 Thread Julien Pierre
Brian, On 7/1/2014 14:05, Brian Smith wrote: I think, in parallel with that, we can figure out why so many sites are still using TLS_ECDHE_*_WITH_RC4_* instead of TLS_ECDHE_*_WITH_AES* and start the technical evangelism efforts to help them. Cheers, Brian The reason for sites choosing RC4 ove

Re: Road to RC4-free web (the case for YouTube without RC4)

2014-07-01 Thread Brian Smith
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On 2014-06-30 02:35, Hubert Kario wrote: > >> The benefits of ECDHE outweigh the risks of using RC4, >>> >> >> I have to disagree here. Even 1024 bit DHE requires a targeted attack at >> ~80 bit >> complexity. Currently we see RC4 at around 56

Re: Road to RC4-free web (the case for YouTube without RC4)

2014-07-01 Thread Brian Smith
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Hubert Kario wrote: > > > As I noted in my bug comment [1], I think that the rhetoric of us not > > adding any more RSA-key-exchange-based cipher suites, even the AES-GCM > > ones, is significant. Software engineers at multiple companies referenced > > our positio