Re: Web Crypto API(s) and what Mozilla wants / needs

2013-02-14 Thread Anders Rundgren
On 2013-02-15 06:38, Martin Paljak wrote: > Hello, > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, David Dahl wrote: >> I do understand the frustration you must feel in trying to get browsers > to work closely with your national ID/Cert system. There are many such > systems, and trying to create an API that

Re: Web Crypto API(s) and what Mozilla wants / needs

2013-02-14 Thread Martin Paljak
Hello, On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, David Dahl wrote: > I do understand the frustration you must feel in trying to get browsers to > work closely with your national ID/Cert system. There are many such systems, > and trying to create an API that works with your specific requirements, > hard

Re: Web Crypto API(s) and what Mozilla wants / needs

2013-02-14 Thread John Dennis
On 02/14/2013 03:19 PM, Ryan Sleevi wrote: On Thu, February 14, 2013 11:55 am, John Dennis wrote: Surely you're not suggesting that arbitrary web applications be able to use JavaScript to swap out the crypto library used by the browser? Absolutely not from JavaScript. But as a browser confi

Re: Web Crypto API(s) and what Mozilla wants / needs

2013-02-14 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Thu, February 14, 2013 11:55 am, John Dennis wrote: > On 02/14/2013 02:34 PM, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > > On Thu, February 14, 2013 10:43 am, Robert Relyea wrote: > >> On 02/14/2013 07:54 AM, David Dahl wrote: > >>> - Original Message - > From: "Gervase Markham" > To: mozilla-dev

Re: Web Crypto API(s) and what Mozilla wants / needs

2013-02-14 Thread John Dennis
On 02/14/2013 02:34 PM, Ryan Sleevi wrote: On Thu, February 14, 2013 10:43 am, Robert Relyea wrote: On 02/14/2013 07:54 AM, David Dahl wrote: - Original Message - From: "Gervase Markham" To: mozilla-dev-tech-cry...@lists.mozilla.org Cc: "Eric Rescorla", "Brian Smith", "Brendan Eich",

Re: Web Crypto API(s) and what Mozilla wants / needs

2013-02-14 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Thu, February 14, 2013 10:43 am, Robert Relyea wrote: > On 02/14/2013 07:54 AM, David Dahl wrote: > > - Original Message - > >> From: "Gervase Markham" > >> To: mozilla-dev-tech-cry...@lists.mozilla.org > >> Cc: "Eric Rescorla", "Brian > >> Smith", "Brendan Eich", "Ben > >> Adida", "Bri

Re: Web Crypto API(s) and what Mozilla wants / needs

2013-02-14 Thread Robert Relyea
On 02/14/2013 07:54 AM, David Dahl wrote: - Original Message - From: "Gervase Markham" To: mozilla-dev-tech-cry...@lists.mozilla.org Cc: "Eric Rescorla", "Brian Smith", "Brendan Eich", "Ben Adida", "Brian Warner" Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:22:41 AM Subject: Re: Web Crypto API(s

Re: Web Crypto API(s) and what Mozilla wants / needs

2013-02-14 Thread David Dahl
- Original Message - > From: "Gervase Markham" > To: mozilla-dev-tech-cry...@lists.mozilla.org > Cc: "Eric Rescorla" , "Brian Smith" , > "Brendan Eich" , "Ben > Adida" , "Brian Warner" > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:22:41 AM > Subject: Re: Web Crypto API(s) and what Mozilla wants

Re: Web Crypto API(s) and what Mozilla wants / needs

2013-02-14 Thread David Dahl
I do understand the frustration you must feel in trying to get browsers to work closely with your national ID/Cert system. There are many such systems, and trying to create an API that works with your specific requirements, hardware and regulations is very difficult. The WG notes this by placing

Re: Web Crypto API(s) and what Mozilla wants / needs

2013-02-14 Thread Gervase Markham
On 13/02/13 20:55, David Dahl wrote: > The main issue is: What does Mozilla actually need here? What is > Mozilla's official policy or thinking on a crypto API for the DOM? As you are the Mozillian with most experience in this area, I'd say that insofar as we will ever have an official policy, it'

Re: Web Crypto API(s) and what Mozilla wants / needs

2013-02-14 Thread helpcrypto helpcrypto
Hi David. First: Thank you (all) for your hard work on this. Second: Sorry for any mistake, typo or pocahontas speak. IMHO we NEED this, and Mozilla NEED it also. In our case, we are currently using a Java applet to make digital signature of documents in many formats (XMLDsig, XAdES, PAdES...) u