Re: import key pairs but un-exportable private key

2010-04-08 Thread Lee Mountie
hi sorry. I made mistake. exportable -> unexportable Mountie 2010. 4. 9. 14:17 Anders Rundgren 작성: Mountie Lee wrote: I mean CKA_EXTRACTABLE. as a Sub-CA, when they issue client certificate, they want to make sure the private key will be exported outside of browser keystore. the only one e

Re: import key pairs but un-exportable private key

2010-04-08 Thread Anders Rundgren
Mountie Lee wrote: I mean CKA_EXTRACTABLE. as a Sub-CA, when they issue client certificate, they want to make sure the private key will be exported outside of browser keystore. the only one exception is when the private key is in hardware token, it can be moved to other browser. I didn't get

Re: import key pairs but un-exportable private key

2010-04-08 Thread Mountie Lee
Hi. I comment below lines. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:12 AM, Nelson B Bolyard wrote: > On 2010/04/08 10:53 PDT, Wan-Teh Chang wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Nelson B Bolyard > wrote: > >> > >> A PKCS#11 CSP can indeed choose to make private keys exportable or not. > >> A FIPS mode C

Re: import key pairs but un-exportable private key

2010-04-08 Thread Mountie Lee
Hi. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:08 AM, Nelson B Bolyard wrote: > > Mountie Lee wrote: > >> Thanks Eddy. > >> > >> in IE > >> the service provider can choose the private key can be exportable or > not. > >> > >> the manual configuration is not so attractive for service provider. > > On 2010-04-08 04

Re: Alerts on TLS Renegotiation

2010-04-08 Thread Kai Engert
On 09.04.2010 00:41, Matt McCutchen wrote: On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 09:59 -0700, Robert Relyea wrote: The yellow larry is a good proposal, and probably implementable much sooner than noisy warnings. I'm glad you like it. I guess the next thing needed is for someone to actually implement it, perh

Re: Alerts on TLS Renegotiation

2010-04-08 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 09:59 -0700, Robert Relyea wrote: > The yellow larry is a good proposal, and probably implementable much > sooner than noisy warnings. I'm glad you like it. I guess the next thing needed is for someone to actually implement it, perhaps me if I can figure out how. -- Matt

Re: Alerts on TLS Renegotiation

2010-04-08 Thread Nelson B
On 2010/04/08 09:35 PDT, johnjbarton wrote: > On 4/7/2010 9:35 PM, Nelson B Bolyard wrote: ... >> Inconveniencing the users is a NECESSARY part of getting this >> vulnerability fixed. Without that, the servers have NO INCENTIVE to >> lift a finger to fix this. > ... > > The claim is obviously fal

Re: import key pairs but un-exportable private key

2010-04-08 Thread Anders Rundgren
- Original Message - From: "Nelson B Bolyard" >I think he's referring to the fact that the PKCS#11 module must be manually >configured to be in FIPS mode or not in FIPS mode. I'm not aware of any automatic protection settings for manual key import in Windows, unless you can do it with

Re: Alerts on TLS Renegotiation

2010-04-08 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 09:35 -0700, johnjbarton wrote: > On 4/7/2010 9:35 PM, Nelson B Bolyard wrote: > ... > > Inconveniencing the users is a NECESSARY part of getting this vulnerability > > fixed. Without that, the servers have NO INCENTIVE to lift a finger to fix > > this. > ... > > The claim i

Re: import key pairs but un-exportable private key

2010-04-08 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
On 2010/04/08 11:11 PDT, Anders Rundgren wrote: > Nelson B Bolyard wrote: > > > >>> Hi Mountie, >>> A service provider cannot specify *anything* regarding key protection >>> using Firefox. >> >> Anders, I think Mountie was referring to "Crypto Service Provider" (CSP), >> which is Microsoft's nam

Re: import key pairs but un-exportable private key

2010-04-08 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
On 2010/04/08 10:53 PDT, Wan-Teh Chang wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Nelson B Bolyard wrote: >> >> A PKCS#11 CSP can indeed choose to make private keys exportable or not. >> A FIPS mode CSP will generally make private keys unexportable. >> NSS's NON-FIPS PKCS#11 CSP can also make non-e

Re: import key pairs but un-exportable private key

2010-04-08 Thread Anders Rundgren
Nelson B Bolyard wrote: Hi Mountie, A service provider cannot specify *anything* regarding key protection using Firefox. Anders, I think Mountie was referring to "Crypto Service Provider" (CSP), which is Microsoft's name for software modules that follow Microsoft's alternative that is approx

Re: import key pairs but un-exportable private key

2010-04-08 Thread Wan-Teh Chang
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Nelson B Bolyard wrote: > > A PKCS#11 CSP can indeed choose to make private keys exportable or not. > A FIPS mode CSP will generally make private keys unexportable. > NSS's NON-FIPS PKCS#11 CSP can also make non-exportable keys, IIRC, > but Firefox offers no option

Re: import key pairs but un-exportable private key

2010-04-08 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
> Mountie Lee wrote: >> Thanks Eddy. >> >> in IE >> the service provider can choose the private key can be exportable or not. >> >> the manual configuration is not so attractive for service provider. On 2010-04-08 04:14 PST, Anders Rundgren wrote: > Hi Mountie, > A service provider cannot specify

Re: Alerts on TLS Renegotiation

2010-04-08 Thread Robert Relyea
On 04/07/2010 09:35 PM, Nelson B Bolyard wrote: > We plan on alerting users in a future update. This is fair warning to server operators and those who are debugging their sites. >>> If this is a real threat don't users deserve a fair warning now? >>> >> I fully agree

Re: Alerts on TLS Renegotiation

2010-04-08 Thread johnjbarton
On 4/7/2010 9:35 PM, Nelson B Bolyard wrote: ... Inconveniencing the users is a NECESSARY part of getting this vulnerability fixed. Without that, the servers have NO INCENTIVE to lift a finger to fix this. ... The claim is obviously false as the recent update to Firefox 3.6.3 clearly demonstr

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Re: import key pairs but un-exportable private key

2010-04-08 Thread Anders Rundgren
Hi Mountie, A service provider cannot specify *anything* regarding key protection using Firefox. Anders Mountie Lee wrote: Thanks Eddy. in IE the service provider can choose the private key can be exportable or not. the manual configuration is not so attractive for service provider. is it po

Re: import key pairs but un-exportable private key

2010-04-08 Thread Mountie Lee
Thanks Eddy. in IE the service provider can choose the private key can be exportable or not. the manual configuration is not so attractive for service provider. is it possible to enable FIPS mode by providing checkbox or some other ways by server? On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Eddy Nigg wro

Re: import key pairs but un-exportable private key

2010-04-08 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 04/08/2010 01:41 PM, Mountie Lee: Hi. I'm Mountie. Hi Mountie... in Firefox is it possible to make private key in keystore as un-exportable that the key was imported from outside. Did you try to activate FIPS mode? See Preferences -> Advanced -> Security Devices -> Enable FIPS. --

import key pairs but un-exportable private key

2010-04-08 Thread Mountie Lee
Hi. I'm Mountie. I have a question. in MSIE(Microsoft Internet Explorer) user is able to choose the private key is exportable or not from keystore when generating private key or import key pairs. in Firefox is it possible to make private key in keystore as un-exportable that the key was imported