Re: Hongkong Post Root Inclusion Request

2009-02-12 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/13/2009 05:58 AM, Nelson B Bolyard: Recently, a CA that uses partitioned CRLs applied to admission to the Mozilla/NSS root CA list. Our choices appear to be: 1) Do not admit their root until support for partitioned CRLs is done. (There is no active plan of record to do that work at this t

Re: Hongkong Post Root Inclusion Request

2009-02-12 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
Michael Ströder wrote, On 2009-02-10 00:27: > Nelson B Bolyard wrote: >> This is probably a policy question, but: are we willing to accept CAs >> that use CRLs that we cannot parse? > > I'd say no. > >> Does this CA also implement OCSP? Can we justify this on the grounds >> that we do implement

Re: how do we agree?

2009-02-12 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/12/2009 09:11 PM, Ian G: First of all I think we should edit this document only after some sort of agreement here. I think we haven't finished discussion concerning this issue yet, can you hold back for a minute? Nope. It's a wiki; It's a wiki because that's the media Frank decided wou

Re: what is the new work requirement for the auditor?

2009-02-12 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/12/2009 09:04 PM, Ian G: Eddy, you change your tune so fast you must be salsa dancer ... I don't think so. I wondered if we need a list of 20 items in order to clarify what a CA should provide in terms of audited documents. As I already said, many times we need only clarifications - a b

how do we agree?

2009-02-12 Thread Ian G
On 11/2/09 21:26, Eddy Nigg wrote: On 02/11/2009 06:43 PM, Ian G: OK, I made some changes on the wiki First of all I think we should edit this document only after some sort of agreement here. I think we haven't finished discussion concerning this issue yet, can you hold back for a minute?

Re: what is the new work requirement for the auditor?

2009-02-12 Thread Ian G
On 12/2/09 19:00, Eddy Nigg wrote: On 02/12/2009 07:47 PM, Ian G: [2] Actually I think I am a long way from nailing down the issues here. Even though I agree usually on providing clear statements and requirements, I wonder if we really have to go into such details? You know, many times it was

Re: "pretty print" a cert from JSS

2009-02-12 Thread Glen Beasley
David Stutzman wrote: Glen Beasley wrote: you can code the same pretty print functionality but there is no existing function that duplicates certutil -l -n. You can start with http://mxr.mozilla.org/security/source/security/jss/org/mozilla/jss/tests/ListCerts.java Which currently outputs:

Re: what is the new work requirement for the auditor?

2009-02-12 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/12/2009 07:47 PM, Ian G: [2] Actually I think I am a long way from nailing down the issues here. Even though I agree usually on providing clear statements and requirements, I wonder if we really have to go into such details? You know, many times it was sufficient to receive a statement

what is the new work requirement for the auditor?

2009-02-12 Thread Ian G
So there appear to be several things that might require an additional audit interaction over some delivery to Mozilla, outside the normal audit opinion. Here's my list of things, as spotted recently: 1. a CA's clarification or comment over a key document (e.g., CPS). 2. an additional documen

Re: Certigna Root Inclusion Request

2009-02-12 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/12/2009 05:13 PM, Yannick LEPLARD: This is a good alternative for us. If everybody agree with, we can send you the fair portion of CPS in english and our auditor will confirm you the genuineness of the document. In my opinion this would solve the problem. I would like to request that t

Re: Certigna Root Inclusion Request

2009-02-12 Thread Yannick LEPLARD
Another alternative is to publish just those portions of the CPS that address the question of email verification, and have your auditor confirm to us that the section(s) in question are from the CPS that was referenced in your audit. Frank This is a good alternative for us. If everybody

Re: Certigna Root Inclusion Request

2009-02-12 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg wrote: On 02/11/2009 07:19 PM, Yannick LEPLARD: So What should we do ? Should we ask our auditor a certified document about our practices for e-mail validation ? Yannick, what are the chances to publish the CPS? Please note that all CAs which have been included into Mozilla NSS duri

Re: Certigna Root Inclusion Request

2009-02-12 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/12/2009 12:31 PM, Yannick LEPLARD: First of all, i would like to express my astonishment about the discussion phase. It sounds like Mozilla's discussion "how to evaluate the CAs / changes to do in the benchmarks " rather than a Certigna discussion. Yes, unfortunately we make the mistake a

Re: Certigna Root Inclusion Request

2009-02-12 Thread Yannick LEPLARD
First of all, i would like to express my astonishment about the discussion phase. It sounds like Mozilla's discussion "how to evaluate the CAs / changes to do in the benchmarks " rather than a Certigna discussion. We asked for inclusion in Mozilla on 2007 (august). Mozilla agrees with ETSI 1