Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2013-01-24 Thread Gervase Markham
On 23/01/13 10:33, Henri Sivonen wrote: > Anyway, it seems > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Gecko_user_agent_string_reference > isn't getting updated together with the code changes, which probably > makes evangelism even harder than it would otherwise be. :-( Fixed - sorry about that. >

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2013-01-23 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Gervase Markham wrote: > Keeping the UA as similar as possible across platforms removes the > possibility of some Firefoxes being excluded by foot-shooting > developers. The change under consideration removes a > relatively-recently-added tag on the Tablet Firefox

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2013-01-11 Thread Gervase Markham
On 07/01/13 18:48, JP Rosevear wrote: > If I understand what you are proposing I think its reasonable given we > are switching to the "desktop" UA. But I come from the camp that UA > changes should be for a deeply clear benefit, simply "it won't harm > much" is not an argument for change in a prop

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2013-01-09 Thread Johnathan Nightingale
On Jan 7, 2013, at 1:48 PM, JP Rosevear wrote: > On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 16:03 +, Gervase Markham wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> After taking all input into account, I have decided that we should drop >> the "Tablet" token from Fennec's UA on tablets. This is what Android >> browser and Chrome

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2013-01-07 Thread JP Rosevear
On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 16:03 +, Gervase Markham wrote: > Hi everyone, > > After taking all input into account, I have decided that we should drop > the "Tablet" token from Fennec's UA on tablets. This is what Android > browser and Chrome do, and corresponds to option D) of my original > opti

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2012-12-20 Thread Gervase Markham
On 19/12/12 10:21, Gervase Markham wrote: On 18/12/12 18:51, Alex Keybl wrote: Agreed that major fallout is unlikely - do we have a list of the most heavily used mobile tablet sites to verify that this change will not cause severe web regressions though? I will consult the wonderful Mr. Mandel

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2012-12-19 Thread Gervase Markham
On 18/12/12 18:51, Alex Keybl wrote: Agreed that major fallout is unlikely - do we have a list of the most heavily used mobile tablet sites to verify that this change will not cause severe web regressions though? I will consult the wonderful Mr. Mandel. - This decision is going to be widely p

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2012-12-18 Thread Alex Keybl
> - For the above reasons (short time, relatively small number of users), I am > not too concerned that large numbers of web developers are going to have been > detecting our "Tablet" string, or that this will lead to frustration at our > "ever-changing" UA. Agreed that major fallout is unlikel

Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2012-12-18 Thread Gervase Markham
Hi everyone, After taking all input into account, I have decided that we should drop the "Tablet" token from Fennec's UA on tablets. This is what Android browser and Chrome do, and corresponds to option D) of my original options. So for non-"Mobile" devices, it would be: Mozilla/5.0 (Android