Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2014-04-30 Thread Phil Schaf
OK, i have looked into this and found some connections. Specifically, all major OSs seem to have APIs providing the following: 1. download progress 2. native notifications. As older versions don't have those, and linux systems are pretty modular in any case, i propose that we use no fallback fo

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2014-01-31 Thread chris
On Monday, October 28, 2013 6:38:07 AM UTC-5, Philip Chee wrote: > On 28/10/2013 16:02, Florian Bender [:fbender] wrote: > > > Mac OS X Mavericks has been released with improvements to NC. Safari > > > uses NC to display Web/PushNotifications and seems to work quite > > > well. > > > > > > I'

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-29 Thread Reuben Morais
On Oct 29, 2013, at 12:23 PM, Doug Turner wrote: > Nothing. Just time. Patches accepted. Not really? Last time I looked into this one of the problems was that AlertsService exposes an alertfinished event (for when the notification goes away) that we can’t implement when using NC, since NC not

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-29 Thread Doug Turner
Nothing. Just time. Patches accepted. On Oct 29, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: > Not mapping Web Notifications to native notifications seems very > unfortunate, since it means Web apps can't use Web Notifications to > get a native experience. > > Is there a summary of what exactly pr

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-29 Thread Henri Sivonen
Not mapping Web Notifications to native notifications seems very unfortunate, since it means Web apps can't use Web Notifications to get a native experience. Is there a summary of what exactly prevents the use of native notifications and why we shouldn't change the spec so that it can be mapped to

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-28 Thread Philip Chee
On 28/10/2013 16:02, Florian Bender [:fbender] wrote: > Mac OS X Mavericks has been released with improvements to NC. Safari > uses NC to display Web/PushNotifications and seems to work quite > well. > > I'd like you to revisit the decision to drop NC in favor of XUL > Notifications, and have a se

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-28 Thread Florian Bender [:fbender]
Mac OS X Mavericks has been released with improvements to NC. Safari uses NC to display Web/PushNotifications and seems to work quite well. I'd like you to revisit the decision to drop NC in favor of XUL Notifications, and have a second look at the new API and capabilities. NC support could be

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-25 Thread Fitzgerald, Nick
Removal of native notifications has badly regressed the UI for notifying that there is a browser update downloaded, and that you can restart the browser to run the new version. (At least on OSX, I don't know about other platforms.) When we had native notifications, you would see a notification, bu

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-13 Thread Eric Shepherd
On 2013-10-12 12:39:37 +, Philip Chee said: There was no support for Mac native notifications. Mostly because there were no notifications native to the Mac (The OS X notification centre didn't exist then). But they added Notification Center support pretty recently. It makes things much be

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-13 Thread Asa Dotzler
On 10/12/2013 5:50 AM, Philip Chee wrote: Um, what? libnotify was removed because the developer was too lazy to google for the docs? Phil, you've been in the community long enough to know that this isn't appropriate participation. Insulting other contributors like this is not acceptable and

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-12 Thread Mike de Boer
On Oct 12, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Philip Chee wrote: > On 09/10/2013 09:14, Marco wrote: > >> It's not entirely clear to me why libnotify support was removed, the >> author of the patch stated: >> "I removed Growl support because it does not support features needed to >> implement the spec. I also

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-12 Thread Philip Chee
On 09/10/2013 09:14, Marco wrote: > It's not entirely clear to me why libnotify support was removed, the > author of the patch stated: > "I removed Growl support because it does not support features needed to > implement the spec. I also removed libnotify support because I can't > find document

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-12 Thread Philip Chee
On 09/10/2013 05:48, Marco wrote: > In bug 782211, native notification systems support was removed. A lot of > bugs have been filed to restore support for libnotify and Mac native There was no support for Mac native notifications. Mostly because there were no notifications native to the Mac (The

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-08 Thread Eitan Isaacson
nt: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 6:14:11 PM Subject: Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms On 10/08/2013 04:37 PM, Dave Townsend wrote: > On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Marco > <mailto:mar.castelluc...@studenti.unina.it>> wrote: > > The bug has

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-08 Thread Marco
On 10/08/2013 04:37 PM, Dave Townsend wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Marco > wrote: The bug has regressed a lot of things. To me it looks like the decision to land it was a bit rushed. For example, I think we shouldn't have removed

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-08 Thread Karl Tomlinson
Marco writes: > The bug has regressed a lot of things. To me it looks like the > decision to land it was a bit rushed. I can't help wondering whether the feature was needed urgently on b2g, and the people involved just didn't care enough if getting that done quickly also damaged desktop products.

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-08 Thread Dave Townsend
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Marco wrote: > The bug has regressed a lot of things. To me it looks like the decision > to land it was a bit rushed. For example, I think we shouldn't have removed > the Mac notification system, if it supported the necessary features for the > notifications API. S

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-08 Thread Marco
The bug has regressed a lot of things. To me it looks like the decision to land it was a bit rushed. For example, I think we shouldn't have removed the Mac notification system, if it supported the necessary features for the notifications API. Some people say also libnotify should support the ne

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-08 Thread Dave Townsend
That's a pretty long bug to ask people to read over but... The original comment about posting to dev-platform seems to be simply asking that a thread be made to warn people that this change is coming, not for any discussion as such. It should have happened at the time but it's a bit late for it no

Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-08 Thread Marco
In bug 782211, native notification systems support was removed. A lot of bugs have been filed to restore support for libnotify and Mac native notifications, because XUL notifications don't behave correctly on those systems (multi-monitor support is broken, etc.). The patch to remove this support