Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2013-01-24 Thread Gervase Markham
On 23/01/13 10:33, Henri Sivonen wrote: > Anyway, it seems > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Gecko_user_agent_string_reference > isn't getting updated together with the code changes, which probably > makes evangelism even harder than it would otherwise be. :-( Fixed - sorry about that. >

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2013-01-23 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Gervase Markham wrote: > Keeping the UA as similar as possible across platforms removes the > possibility of some Firefoxes being excluded by foot-shooting > developers. The change under consideration removes a > relatively-recently-added tag on the Tablet Firefox

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2013-01-11 Thread Gervase Markham
On 07/01/13 18:48, JP Rosevear wrote: > If I understand what you are proposing I think its reasonable given we > are switching to the "desktop" UA. But I come from the camp that UA > changes should be for a deeply clear benefit, simply "it won't harm > much" is not an argument for change in a prop

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2013-01-09 Thread Johnathan Nightingale
On Jan 7, 2013, at 1:48 PM, JP Rosevear wrote: > On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 16:03 +, Gervase Markham wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> After taking all input into account, I have decided that we should drop >> the "Tablet" token from Fennec's UA on tablets. This is what Android >> browser and Chrome

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2013-01-07 Thread JP Rosevear
On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 16:03 +, Gervase Markham wrote: > Hi everyone, > > After taking all input into account, I have decided that we should drop > the "Tablet" token from Fennec's UA on tablets. This is what Android > browser and Chrome do, and corresponds to option D) of my original > opti

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2012-12-20 Thread Gervase Markham
On 19/12/12 10:21, Gervase Markham wrote: On 18/12/12 18:51, Alex Keybl wrote: Agreed that major fallout is unlikely - do we have a list of the most heavily used mobile tablet sites to verify that this change will not cause severe web regressions though? I will consult the wonderful Mr. Mandel

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2012-12-19 Thread Gervase Markham
On 18/12/12 18:51, Alex Keybl wrote: Agreed that major fallout is unlikely - do we have a list of the most heavily used mobile tablet sites to verify that this change will not cause severe web regressions though? I will consult the wonderful Mr. Mandel. - This decision is going to be widely p

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2012-12-18 Thread Alex Keybl
> - For the above reasons (short time, relatively small number of users), I am > not too concerned that large numbers of web developers are going to have been > detecting our "Tablet" string, or that this will lead to frustration at our > "ever-changing" UA. Agreed that major fallout is unlikel