Re: We should drop MathML

2013-07-10 Thread fred . wang
Regarding EPUB3, I don't think anyone said the whole format should be supported natively in browsers. An EPUB file is basically just a set of HTML5 pages (HTML, SVG, MathML and CSS) packed into an archive, together with additional metadata to describe the ebook content (title, author, chapters,

Re: We should drop MathML

2013-07-10 Thread fred . wang
I think the main points were: 1) Not everybody use TeX as an input method. 2) Not everybody write the source of Web pages by hand. 3) People using TeX want its full power (defining macros, loading packages etc). So except in simple and limited cases, a small subset of TeX is not what people want

Re: We should drop MathML

2013-05-07 Thread fred . wang
> I'd argue that any machine parsable format can't be ambiguous by virtue > of the fact machines parse it. However in any case AtkText / > IAccessibleText / the mac accessible protocol thing all expect the text > for an object to be a string so whatever format the web uses screen > readers will be

Re: We should drop MathML

2013-05-07 Thread fred . wang
On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 4:11:22 PM UTC+2, fred...@mathjax.org wrote: > I use many long inline formulas in my blog and this is handled as I would > like by Gecko. sorry I meant this is *not* handled ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozil

Re: We should drop MathML

2013-05-07 Thread fred . wang
> Does MathML need to participate in inline reflow in a way that requires > direct support from the layout engine? I don't know if that answers your question but one important thing that is currently lacking in Gecko's MathML implementation is line breaking. This is true for Web pages but I sus

Re: We should drop MathML

2013-05-07 Thread fred . wang
* About the "XML is evil, MathML is XML so MathML is evil" syllogism. I don't think it makes sense in general to say that something is good or bad without mentioning for what purpose. I actually agree with Joshua that XML is a good format to work with for a computer engineer. There are very good

Re: We should drop MathML

2013-05-06 Thread fred . wang
I don't have time to respond right now, but regarding the accessibility, mathematics is also more complex in that case too. Basically the two use cases are I'm aware of are - For blind people or other visual disabilities, speech synthesizer must follow the MathSpeak rules. Simply reading the te

Re: We should drop MathML

2013-05-05 Thread fred . wang
I'm not sure if that's a joke or complete misinformation about the topic. But obviously the answer is that the MathML support must be preserved. The MathJax team is strongly in favor of native MathML implementation. ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-pla