Re: Allowing web apps to delay layout/rendering on startup

2015-07-30 Thread Bobby Holley
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 4:27 PM, James Burke wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Jeff Muizelaar > wrote: > > Can't you just make everything display:none until you're ready to show > it? > > Just using display: none seems like it will run into the same problem > that prompted bug 863499, wh

Re: Allowing web apps to delay layout/rendering on startup

2015-07-30 Thread Karl Tomlinson
James Burke writes: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Jeff Muizelaar > wrote: >> Can't you just make everything display:none until you're ready to show it? > > Just using display: none seems like it will run into the same problem > that prompted bug 863499, where the browser did some render/pai

Re: Allowing web apps to delay layout/rendering on startup

2015-07-30 Thread James Burke
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Jeff Muizelaar wrote: > Can't you just make everything display:none until you're ready to show it? Just using display: none seems like it will run into the same problem that prompted bug 863499, where the browser did some render/paints of a white page, which took

Re: layers.async-pan-zoom.enabled amazing performance increase

2015-07-30 Thread Kartikaya Gupta
The OP filed bug 1189237 for this issue, but it seems like it was reported on Firefox 39 where we don't support async-pan-zoom. If you can reproduce this issue in a Nightly build please file a new bug. Thanks, kats On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Andreas Tolfsen wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at

Re: layers.async-pan-zoom.enabled amazing performance increase

2015-07-30 Thread Andreas Tolfsen
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:15 AM wrote: > Problem it this introduced some bugs, like disabling scrolling completely > on some pages, such as a google search page. > Did you report a bug on this yet? I find this can be reproduced reliably by loading in more log history in an application like IRC

Re: DXR: the new_one

2015-07-30 Thread Peter Elmers
A reminder that my presentation is less than an hour away! It'll be live in MV commons as well as streamed on AirMo at 3pm PDT; tune in to hear the latest on what's happening in DXR land. Thanks, Peter On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Peter Elmers wrote: > Hello! > > I'm Peter (:new_one), thi

Re: Allowing web apps to delay layout/rendering on startup

2015-07-30 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
I can't speak about the validity of the requirement, but in terms of API, we probably want something more compositional, if several codepaths need to stop rendering. And then, we end up with the possibility that someone forgets to enable rendering, with all the ensuing debugging joy. Since this is

Re: Allowing web apps to delay layout/rendering on startup

2015-07-30 Thread Jeff Muizelaar
Can't you just make everything display:none until you're ready to show it? -Jeff On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 4:20 PM, James Burke wrote: > There are some forces at play in a web app that point to wanting to delay > layout and rendering until a web app gives a signal that it should start: > > * ECMAS

Allowing web apps to delay layout/rendering on startup

2015-07-30 Thread James Burke
There are some forces at play in a web app that point to wanting to delay layout and rendering until a web app gives a signal that it should start: * ECMAScript modules, and even developer constructed JS module systems today, rely on async loading of scripts. * Custom elements need their JS regis

Re: On the future of and application/x-x509-*-cert MIME handling

2015-07-30 Thread Richard Barnes
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 6:53 AM, Hubert Kario wrote: > On Wednesday 29 July 2015 16:35:41 David Keeler wrote: > > [cc'd to dev-security for visibility. This discussion is intended to > > happen on dev-platform; please reply to that list.] > > > > Ryan Sleevi recently announced the pre-intention t

Re: On the future of and application/x-x509-*-cert MIME handling

2015-07-30 Thread Richard Barnes
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Teoli > wrote: > > Do you think it is already worth to flag it as deprecated in the MDN > > documentation as Google plans to remove it too? > > Yeah, seems worth a note at least given that Microsoft doe

Re: XULRunner future and ownership

2015-07-30 Thread Eric Shepherd
> reverendli...@gmail.com > July 30, 2015 at 10:17 AM > > I'll volunteer to help out with documentation. > ___ > dev-platform mailing list > dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform

Re: XULRunner future and ownership

2015-07-30 Thread Mike de Boer
I’d like to finetune my earlier statement - after talking things over a bit with Benjamin - to say: I’d like to volunteer if there’s no one else moving forward to take this project on. The reason is that I’m not currently working on or using XULRunner tech, so my level of engagement is low. I’m

Re: XULRunner future and ownership

2015-07-30 Thread reverendlinux
On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 8:44:57 PM UTC-6, Eric Shepherd wrote: > Benjamin Smedberg wrote: > > I am looking to see whether there is an alternate owner who is > > interested in the task of keeping XULRunner building and running > > properly and reviewing patches to XULRuner-specific code. Plea

Re: On the future of and application/x-x509-*-cert MIME handling

2015-07-30 Thread Hubert Kario
On Wednesday 29 July 2015 16:35:41 David Keeler wrote: > [cc'd to dev-security for visibility. This discussion is intended to > happen on dev-platform; please reply to that list.] > > Ryan Sleevi recently announced the pre-intention to deprecate and > eventually remove support for the element and

Re: On the future of and application/x-x509-*-cert MIME handling

2015-07-30 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Teoli wrote: > Do you think it is already worth to flag it as deprecated in the MDN > documentation as Google plans to remove it too? Yeah, seems worth a note at least given that Microsoft doesn't ship it either (nor plans to ever). I'll probably get the HTML Sta

Re: On the future of and application/x-x509-*-cert MIME handling

2015-07-30 Thread Teoli
On 30/07/2015 08:58, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:35 AM, David Keeler wrote: I therefore propose we follow suit and begin the process of deprecating and removing these features. The intention of this post is to begin a discussion to determine the feasibility of doing so.

Re: layers.async-pan-zoom.enabled amazing performance increase

2015-07-30 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 9:13 PM, wrote: > Hi, > i enabled layers.async-pan-zoom.enabled in firefox on Mac OSX Yosemite, > and noticed dramatic performance increase. > Great! > Problem it this introduced some bugs, like disabling scrolling completely > on some pages, such as a google search pag

Re: layers.async-pan-zoom.enabled amazing performance increase

2015-07-30 Thread webkoros
On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 11:13:57 AM UTC+2, webk...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > i enabled layers.async-pan-zoom.enabled in firefox on Mac OSX Yosemite, and > noticed dramatic performance increase. > > Problem it this introduced some bugs, like disabling scrolling completely on > some pages, su

layers.async-pan-zoom.enabled amazing performance increase

2015-07-30 Thread webkoros
Hi, i enabled layers.async-pan-zoom.enabled in firefox on Mac OSX Yosemite, and noticed dramatic performance increase. Problem it this introduced some bugs, like disabling scrolling completely on some pages, such as a google search page. Is this the proper place to report such bugs ? I'd like t

Re: Should the entire JS structure be Object.freeze()'d if it's exposed through a read only property?

2015-07-30 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Tim Guan-tin Chien wrote: > This is not as convenient as a keyword in WebIDL but I think it's good enough. You might want to chime in on https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29004 which is asking for something similar (though more scoped). Note thou

Re: On the future of and application/x-x509-*-cert MIME handling

2015-07-30 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:35 AM, David Keeler wrote: > I therefore propose we follow suit and begin the process of deprecating > and removing these features. The intention of this post is to begin a > discussion to determine the feasibility of doing so. Deprecating and adding counters seems meani

Re: Should the entire JS structure be Object.freeze()'d if it's exposed through a read only property?

2015-07-30 Thread Tim Guan-tin Chien
Closing the loop here: With the help from :bholley the Cu.cloneInto() method now comes with an option to deepFreeze the cloned object. Those who interested can check out the bugs. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1184439 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1186213 This is no