Re: W3C Proposed Recommendation: HTML5

2014-09-20 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 9/20/14, 6:29 PM, Karl Dubost wrote: "This published recommendation has switched to a non maintenance mode. It may contain mistakes or things may have changed since the publication. Please make sure to check the most up to date document BLAH [with link to the whatw

Re: W3C Proposed Recommendation: HTML5

2014-09-20 Thread Karl Dubost
Le 21 sept. 2014 à 03:23, Boris Zbarsky a écrit : > The important part to me about implementations is that implementations > shouldn't follow the known-bogus parts of the HTML5 REC once said bogosity if > fixed in the WHATWG spec and HTML5.1 (with the former more likely to happen > sooner). M

Re: W3C Proposed Recommendation: HTML5

2014-09-20 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 9/20/14, 5:41 AM, Karl Dubost wrote: Is the whatwg spec interoperable? No. Will it ever be? That's the goal. Whether we manage to get there, we'll see. So Boris said incomplete test suite. That's one comment. Note that I didn't say we should bring the comment back to the AC, since

Re: W3C Proposed Recommendation: HTML5

2014-09-20 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 9/20/14, 5:03 AM, Karl Dubost wrote: The biggest issue I have with this is exiting CR without anything resembling a comprehensive enough test suite * What is a comprehensive enough test suite? Ideally, one that has a test for every normative requirement in the specification. This means

Re: W3C Proposed Recommendation: HTML5

2014-09-20 Thread Kyle Huey
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 2:41 AM, Karl Dubost wrote: > Anne, > > Le 20 sept. 2014 à 18:20, Anne van Kesteren a écrit : >> Yeah the W3C crowd keeps saying that > > Here the W3C crowd. We (Mozilla) have a conflict ;) > http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=40318&public=1&order=org#_MozillaFou

Re: W3C Proposed Recommendation: HTML5

2014-09-20 Thread Karl Dubost
Anne, Le 20 sept. 2014 à 18:20, Anne van Kesteren a écrit : > Yeah the W3C crowd keeps saying that Here the W3C crowd. We (Mozilla) have a conflict ;) http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=40318&public=1&order=org#_MozillaFoundation This apart, I would love to have this discussion durin

Re: W3C Proposed Recommendation: HTML5

2014-09-20 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Karl Dubost wrote: > My biggest issue with HTML5 spec is that it is too big to be meaningfully > implementable and/or testable. Yeah the W3C crowd keeps saying that, yet hasn't invested any meaningful effort into creating modules. > It's here where I have a di

Re: W3C Proposed Recommendation: HTML5

2014-09-20 Thread Karl Dubost
Boris, David, Le 20 sept. 2014 à 11:46, Boris Zbarsky a écrit : > The biggest issue I have with this is exiting CR without anything resembling > a comprehensive enough test suite * What is a comprehensive enough test suite? * How far the current test suite is from the comprehensive test suite y