Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Presentation WG

2014-09-09 Thread L. David Baron
The W3C is proposing a revised charter for: Second Screen Presentation Working Group http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2014Jul/0001.html http://www.w3.org/2014/secondscreen/charter-draft.html deadline for comments: September 12 (this Friday!) Mozilla has the opportunity

Re: Intent to ship: WebCrypto API

2014-09-09 Thread Jonas Sicking
Which version are we thinking of enabling this for? For Gecko 34/FirefoxOS 2.1 or a later version? On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Tim Taubert wrote: > As of September we intend to enable the WebCrypto API by default on all > platforms. It has been developed behind the dom.webcrypto.enabled > pr

Re: Restricting gUM to authenticated origins only

2014-09-09 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Henri Sivonen > wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: > >> > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Henri Sivonen > >> > wrote:

Re: Tips for standardizing web APIs

2014-09-09 Thread Lars Knudsen
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Mounir Lamouri wrote: > On Tue, 9 Sep 2014, at 00:15, Lars Knudsen wrote: > > looks good, > > > > maybe adding to always take a holistic view on what you are doing and how > > it will interact with other specs/standards used in the same apps (e.g. > > considering

Re: web-platform-tests now running in automation

2014-09-09 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2014-09-09, 8:44 AM, James Graham wrote: On 08/09/14 19:42, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: I think unreviewed tests should still be run by browsers' automated testing framework (obviously unless they take too long, are unreliable, etc.). They just shouldn't be counted toward any claims of conformance.

Re: Intent to ship: WebCrypto API

2014-09-09 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2014-09-09, 7:25 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Tim Taubert wrote: Completely agree with Ehsan and Henri. I don't know of any plans to even consider doing that and we currently expose the WebCrypto API to unauthenticated origins as well. Note https://www.w3.o

Re: Intent to ship: WebCrypto API

2014-09-09 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2014-09-09, 6:35 AM, Tim Taubert wrote: Ehsan Akhgari wrote: Can you please clarify what are the areas that we don't fully adhere to the spec? Do we expect the fixes to those and potentially new spec issues in the future to break backwards compatibility? KeyAlgorithms were recently changed

Re: [PresentationAPI] Intend to implement

2014-09-09 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 9/9/14, 2:57 AM, Kilik kuo wrote: Boris Zbarsky於 2014年9月8日星期一UTC+8下午11時51分04秒寫道: boolean available; This needs a default value. I'm not quite sure about this, I am. ;) Since it's an optional argument for AvailableChangeEvent. Right, and the question is: what is the behavior whe

Re: Intent to ship: WebCrypto API

2014-09-09 Thread Joshua Cranmer 🐧
On 9/9/2014 5:38 AM, Tim Taubert wrote: helpcrypto helpcrypto wrote: I'll love to know if Mozilla/Firefox is going to provide something (even out-of-standard) to make possible using PKCS#11/NSS with Webcrypto. The WebCrypto API basically exposes PKCS#11/NSS functionality with a DOM API. The c

Re: web-platform-tests now running in automation

2014-09-09 Thread James Graham
On 08/09/14 19:42, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: >> I think unreviewed tests should still be run by browsers' automated >> testing framework (obviously unless they take too long, are >> unreliable, etc.). They just shouldn't be counted toward any claims >> of conformance. Even if the expected values are e

Re: Intent to ship: WebCrypto API

2014-09-09 Thread helpcrypto helpcrypto
Thanks for your answers, Tim. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Tim Taubert wrote: > helpcrypto helpcrypto wrote: > > I'll love to know if Mozilla/Firefox is going to provide something (even > > out-of-standard) to make possible using PKCS#11/NSS with Webcrypto. > > The WebCrypto API basically ex

Re: Intent to ship: WebCrypto API

2014-09-09 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Tim Taubert wrote: > Completely agree with Ehsan and Henri. I don't know of any plans to even > consider doing that and we currently expose the WebCrypto API to > unauthenticated origins as well. Note https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25972 which I fi

Re: Intent to ship: WebCrypto API

2014-09-09 Thread Tim Taubert
Anne van Kesteren wrote: > In Chromium the methods only work on authenticated origins. What is > our story? Completely agree with Ehsan and Henri. I don't know of any plans to even consider doing that and we currently expose the WebCrypto API to unauthenticated origins as well. > Is the non-overl

Re: Intent to ship: WebCrypto API

2014-09-09 Thread Tim Taubert
Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > Is there a list of algorithms we support somewhere, particularly the > ones we share with Chromium? IIRC the supported algorithms is where > the real interop problems are expected to be. (I quickly searched MDN, > but that didn't turn up anything useful.) Richard Barnes ma

Re: Restricting gUM to authenticated origins only

2014-09-09 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Mounir Lamouri wrote: > On Tue, 9 Sep 2014, at 10:10, Daniel Veditz wrote: >> On 9/8/2014 2:16 AM, Mounir Lamouri wrote: >> > On Sun, 7 Sep 2014, at 04:56, Martin Thomson wrote: >> >> It's more the case that a persistent positive grant from permission >> >> manager

Re: Intent to ship: WebCrypto API

2014-09-09 Thread Tim Taubert
helpcrypto helpcrypto wrote: > I'll love to know if Mozilla/Firefox is going to provide something (even > out-of-standard) to make possible using PKCS#11/NSS with Webcrypto. The WebCrypto API basically exposes PKCS#11/NSS functionality with a DOM API. > This will fill the gap that currently exist

Re: Restricting gUM to authenticated origins only

2014-09-09 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Martin Thomson wrote: > Don't look at me. My assessment is that this isn't superb, but it's not a > hill worth dying on. You are welcome to disagree, of course: > public-media-capt...@w3.org http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-capture/2014Sep/0013.ht

Re: Intent to ship: WebCrypto API

2014-09-09 Thread Tim Taubert
Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > Can you please clarify what are the areas that we don't fully adhere to > the spec? Do we expect the fixes to those and potentially new spec > issues in the future to break backwards compatibility? KeyAlgorithms were recently changed to dictionaries (from interfaces) and we

Re: Restricting gUM to authenticated origins only

2014-09-09 Thread Mounir Lamouri
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014, at 10:10, Daniel Veditz wrote: > On 9/8/2014 2:16 AM, Mounir Lamouri wrote: > > On Sun, 7 Sep 2014, at 04:56, Martin Thomson wrote: > >> It's more the case that a persistent positive grant from permission > >> manager would be ignored for non-secure origins and non-secure origin

Re: Tips for standardizing web APIs

2014-09-09 Thread Mounir Lamouri
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014, at 00:15, Lars Knudsen wrote: > looks good, > > maybe adding to always take a holistic view on what you are doing and how > it will interact with other specs/standards used in the same apps (e.g. > considering DeviceOrientation and DeviceMotion before makeing > OrientationLock

Re: Restricting gUM to authenticated origins only

2014-09-09 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Henri Sivonen wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: >> > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Henri Sivonen >> > wrote: >> >> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Robert O'Callahan >> >> >> >

Re: [PresentationAPI] Intend to implement

2014-09-09 Thread Kilik kuo
Boris Zbarsky於 2014年9月8日星期一UTC+8下午11時51分04秒寫道: > >> dictionary AvailableChangeEventInit : EventInit { > > >>boolean available; > > > > This needs a default value. I'm not quite sure about this, Since it's an optional argument for AvailableChangeEvent. I assume it would be used in the scena