Re: Closure of trunk trees - owners for bugs needed

2013-11-07 Thread Nicholas Nethercote
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Nicholas Nethercote wrote: > > - Finish fixing the devtools leaks: > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=932880. Fixed on mozilla-central and backported to aurora, beta, and b2g26_v1_2. Nothing more to do. > - Finish fixing the social API leaks: > https

Re: Tasks to implement the Encoding Standard and to reduce encoding autodetection

2013-11-07 Thread Joshua Cranmer 🐧
On 11/7/2013 5:42 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: Do Thunderbird developers want to keep decoders that are going away from Firefox? These include: I don't think any Thunderbird developer is well-informed on the issue of charsets in email. The only non-web charset I know we need is the IMAP modified UT

Re: HWA and OMTC on Linux

2013-11-07 Thread Karl Tomlinson
Andreas Gal writes: > On Nov 7, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "L. David Baron" wrote: > >> On Thursday 2013-11-07 13:24 -0800, Andreas Gal wrote: >>> On Nov 7, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Karl Tomlinson wrote: Will any MoCo developers be permitted to spend some time fixing these or the already-known issues?

Re: HWA and OMTC on Linux

2013-11-07 Thread Andreas Gal
On Nov 7, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "L. David Baron" wrote: > On Thursday 2013-11-07 13:24 -0800, Andreas Gal wrote: >> On Nov 7, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Karl Tomlinson wrote: >>> Will any MoCo developers be permitted to spend some time fixing >>> these or the already-known issues? >> >> Its not a priority

Re: HWA and OMTC on Linux

2013-11-07 Thread Robert Kaiser
Nicholas Cameron schrieb: Our goal is (basically) to be OMTC everywhere I have been using OMTC on Linux for a while (with both prefs on, actually) and with the exception of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=934250 everything works really fine (but then, I'm on the newest kernel/d

Re: HWA and OMTC on Linux

2013-11-07 Thread L. David Baron
On Thursday 2013-11-07 13:24 -0800, Andreas Gal wrote: > On Nov 7, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Karl Tomlinson wrote: > > Will any MoCo developers be permitted to spend some time fixing > > these or the already-known issues? > > Its not a priority to fix Linux/X11. We will happily take contributed > patche

Re: Pushes to Backouts on Mozilla Inbound

2013-11-07 Thread L. David Baron
On Thursday 2013-11-07 14:13 +0200, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Ryan VanderMeulen wrote: > > I'm just afraid we're going to end up in the same situation we're already in > > with intermittent failures where the developer looks at it and says "that > > couldn't possibly be

Re: HWA and OMTC on Linux

2013-11-07 Thread Benoit Jacob
(Not replying to anyone in particular, just replying to the lastest email in this thread at this point: ) Let's not transform the original conversation here, which was purely a technical conversation about improving the way we do compositing on Linux, into a prioritization conversation, which would

Re: HWA and OMTC on Linux

2013-11-07 Thread Karl Tomlinson
Andreas Gal writes: > On Nov 7, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Karl Tomlinson wrote: > >> Andreas Gal writes: >> >>> Its not a priority to fix Linux/X11. We will happily take >>> contributed patches, and people are welcome to fix issues they >>> see, as long its not at the expense of the things that matter.

Re: HWA and OMTC on Linux

2013-11-07 Thread Andreas Gal
On Nov 7, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Karl Tomlinson wrote: > Andreas Gal writes: > >> Its not a priority to fix Linux/X11. We will happily take >> contributed patches, and people are welcome to fix issues they >> see, as long its not at the expense of the things that matter. > > Do bugs in B2G Desktop

Re: HWA and OMTC on Linux

2013-11-07 Thread Karl Tomlinson
Andreas Gal writes: > Its not a priority to fix Linux/X11. We will happily take > contributed patches, and people are welcome to fix issues they > see, as long its not at the expense of the things that matter. Do bugs in B2G Desktop on Linux/X11 matter? I assume glitches and perf issues that are

Re: HWA and OMTC on Linux

2013-11-07 Thread Andreas Gal
On Nov 7, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Karl Tomlinson wrote: > Nicholas Cameron writes: > >> Currently on Linux our only 'supported' graphics backend is the >> main-thread software backend (basic layers). > > FWIW basic layers is predominantly GPU-based compositing > (not-softwared) on most X11 systems.

Re: HWA and OMTC on Linux

2013-11-07 Thread Karl Tomlinson
Nicholas Cameron writes: > Currently on Linux our only 'supported' graphics backend is the > main-thread software backend (basic layers). FWIW basic layers is predominantly GPU-based compositing (not-softwared) on most X11 systems. > 5) We would love to spend time making OMTC OpenGL on Linux wor

Legacy character encodings and data inside fonts

2013-11-07 Thread Henri Sivonen
Do we still really need the legacy Mac encodings and JOHAB in order to make sense of fonts? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/gfx/thebes/gfxFontUtils.cpp#1139 -- Henri Sivonen hsivo...@hsivonen.fi http://hsivonen.fi/ ___ dev-platform mailing

Re: Pushes to Backouts on Mozilla Inbound

2013-11-07 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Ryan VanderMeulen wrote: > What do we gain by having results that can't be trusted? The same that we gain from allowing any try pushes that don't run every single test. It's a tradeoff between reliability and time, not black-and-white. For instance, if I change a

Re: HWA and OMTC on Linux

2013-11-07 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Nicholas Cameron wrote: > In the long term, OMTC basic layers will be the default for Linux and > forcing HWA will give OpenGL OMTC as expected. Do I understand correctly that all these users will get OMTC basic layers as the long-term solution? * Don't have 3D dr

Re: Tasks to implement the Encoding Standard and to reduce encoding autodetection

2013-11-07 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: > If Thunderbird still wants to have these, I think they should take > them into comm-central. This bit was buried in the large email, so let's highlight it separately. Do Thunderbird developers want to keep decoders that are going away from