Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-24 Thread Rick Knowles
Costin, If it's the java util collection classes you mean, they were included from 1.2 and higher weren't they ? For the XML parser crimson was needed, because it was a 1.3 compliant JDK. Agreed about them not being in the spec, but things like basic/form auth are in the spec and they can be

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-24 Thread Costin Manolache
Looks interesting, pretty good footprint. One correction - none of the features you mention are part of the Servlet spec actually, at least AFAIK. My understanding is that JNDI is required only if running in a J2EE env, and reloading, JSP, SSL, clustering are not required. How did you get it to r

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-24 Thread Rick Knowles
(Forgive a shameless plug, but seems it might be relevant to this thread) I just thought I'd mention Winstone (winstone.sourceforge.net) for this application too - there have been some people running it successfully on J2ME CDC 1.0 PP 1.0. It also lets you cut out some parts of the spec you do

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-23 Thread Costin Manolache
Not sure Jetty is fit for embedded use either. http://khttp.objectweb.org/ - or something similar, capable of running in CVM or even KVM - could be a viable solution for java on low end devices. The real problem is not the size of tomcat itself - but the number of JVM classes it uses and all the

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-23 Thread Costin Manolache
On 4/23/06, Remy Maucherat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm still working on a 'light' version - but it's going to take few > > more months at least. I gave up on repackaging the current code, there > > are too many deps - and I also gave up on 'coyote standalone', for > > different reasons I thi

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-23 Thread Preston L. Bannister
How small does it need to be? If you really need a full HTTP + servlets configuration then it might be easier to use one of the smaller Jetty configurations ( http://jetty.mortbay.org/ ). Do you really need servlets (i.e. is this webapp meant to run anywhere)? Dropping the standard servlet interf

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-23 Thread Remy Maucherat
Costin Manolache wrote: I'll try to find and make available my old Zaurus version of tomcat - but it's based on 3.3.. For 5.x - it's not easy... First step is to choose a VM - if you go with full JDK ( i.e. using JamVM+classpath ) you could run tomcat as is ( or better - the single-jar version f

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-23 Thread Costin Manolache
; > I need to build a small (lightweight) version of Tomcat 5.x > for PDA arm processor. Can you give me some lead on how to > go about it please. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > Original message ---- > >Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:13:35 -0700 > >From: "Costin M

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-15 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Wade Chandler wrote: You'd be hard pressed getting less RAM usage out of the .NET Framework when you compare apples to apples (application vs application designed the same and doing the same things). If you are used to Java use it. That is true if we were comparing Java to .Net, but on a Pocke

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-14 Thread Wade Chandler
--- "Frank W. Zammetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nearly every PDA with that much RAM doesn't actually > have that much > RAM... the problem is, WinCE itself uses up a lot of > it. For instance, > I sit here with my Dell Axim x51v with 64Mb, yet I > have 29Mb available, > and I have nothing

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-13 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Nearly every PDA with that much RAM doesn't actually have that much RAM... the problem is, WinCE itself uses up a lot of it. For instance, I sit here with my Dell Axim x51v with 64Mb, yet I have 29Mb available, and I have nothing installed at the moment, just had to do a hard restart last nigh

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-13 Thread Tom Miller
>> >I don't know what's your use case, >> >> >> I need a servlet engine. > >Well, what do you intend to do with it ? Keep in mind it's going to >use most of the device memory, and will be relatively slow. I plan to write a small app to process a delivery process. The app will process the deli

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-13 Thread Costin Manolache
On 4/13/06, Tom Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where did you get the JDK for tomcat? Compiled it myself, it's pretty easy. jamvm.sf.net and the classpath project ( I think @fsf.org ). I actually did a straight compile, not a cross on this case, since I had the big hdd and usb2, but cross

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-13 Thread Tom Miller
>I need to find it, I did this few months ago. > >I didn't run it on a PDA, but NSLU2 is close enough ( it's a ARM200, >32MRAM network storage device - has 2 USB2 ports for HDD and ethernet, >so it's very convenient ). >Long time ago ( 2-3+ years ) I did run tomcat3.3 on Zaurus - was >reasonably

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-13 Thread Richard Schilling
IBM's J9 VM is probably the best implementation for running J2ME flavored Java code. http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/zones/wireless/weme_eval_runtimes.html I've been working with it a lot, and it was better than Jeode. The only problem being that it's hard to figure out fr

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-13 Thread Costin Manolache
I need to find it, I did this few months ago. I didn't run it on a PDA, but NSLU2 is close enough ( it's a ARM200, 32MRAM network storage device - has 2 USB2 ports for HDD and ethernet, so it's very convenient ). Long time ago ( 2-3+ years ) I did run tomcat3.3 on Zaurus - was reasonably fast. I

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-13 Thread Tom Miller
Costin, Do you have a built version of tomcat and other necessary requirements information to run on a PDA? What PDA was it? Please share the information. Thanks inadvance, Tom > >I tested it with jamvm+classpath on NSLU2, should run fine on zaurus as well. > >Startup time is a bit slow

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-13 Thread Tom Miller
>There are, AFAIK, no JDK's for PocketPC (being a PocketPC developer >myself, I'm "fairly" sure about this). So AFAIK is what I need for Tomcat instead of JDK for PocketPC, Right? I can't find anything on AFAIK. Do you know if we have a version of Tomcat built for Linux PocketPC? Thank yo

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-13 Thread Costin Manolache
I tested it with jamvm+classpath on NSLU2, should run fine on zaurus as well. Startup time is a bit slow, and memory use is a bit high - but it works reasonably well. I would suggest the sandbox version for this :-). The main problem on PDAs is the flash access speed, which is much smaller than

Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor

2006-04-13 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
There are, AFAIK, no JDK's for PocketPC (being a PocketPC developer myself, I'm "fairly" sure about this). There are however a number of JRE's, which is probably all you need. Take a look at this page: http://www.comp.lancs.ac.uk/~fittond/ppcjava.html Actually, one JDK actually is mentioned, bu