Re: Observability of virtual threads

Romain, On 3/20/24 16:25, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Chris, added some comments inline. Le mer. 20 mars 2024 à 19:41, Christopher Schultz < ch...@christopherschultz.net> a écrit : Romain, On 3/20/24 13:34, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Thread dumps being dump of threads - literally os threads -

Re: Observability of virtual threads

Chris, added some comments inline. Le mer. 20 mars 2024 à 19:41, Christopher Schultz < ch...@christopherschultz.net> a écrit : > Romain, > > On 3/20/24 13:34, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: > > Thread dumps being dump of threads - literally os threads - and virtual > > threads not being threads at all

Re: Observability of virtual threads

Am 20.03.24 um 18:50 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau: Le mer. 20 mars 2024 à 18:43, Rainer Jung a écrit : Am 20.03.24 um 18:34 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau: Hi Chris, Thread dumps being dump of threads - literally os threads - and virtual threads not being threads at all - they are runnables in a d

Re: Observability of virtual threads

Romain, On 3/20/24 13:34, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Thread dumps being dump of threads - literally os threads - and virtual threads not being threads at all - they are runnables in a dedicated thread pool - it is quite fair to not make them the same and have their scheduler - pool - only in the

Re: Observability of virtual threads

Rainer, On 3/20/24 13:33, Rainer Jung wrote: Am 20.03.24 um 18:17 schrieb Christopher Schultz: Rainer, Thanks for writing this up. On 3/20/24 07:22, Rainer Jung wrote: I wanted to share an observation and I hope the things are correct how I am describing them. Maybe things have already impro

Re: Observability of virtual threads

Le mer. 20 mars 2024 à 18:43, Rainer Jung a écrit : > Am 20.03.24 um 18:34 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau: > > Hi Chris, > > > > Thread dumps being dump of threads - literally os threads - and virtual > > threads not being threads at all - they are runnables in a dedicated > thread > > pool - it is q

Re: Observability of virtual threads

Am 20.03.24 um 18:34 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau: Hi Chris, Thread dumps being dump of threads - literally os threads - and virtual threads not being threads at all - they are runnables in a dedicated thread pool - it is quite fair to not make them the same and have their scheduler - pool - only

Re: Observability of virtual threads

Hi Chris, Thread dumps being dump of threads - literally os threads - and virtual threads not being threads at all - they are runnables in a dedicated thread pool - it is quite fair to not make them the same and have their scheduler - pool - only in the thread dump but not themselves no? Similarly

Re: Observability of virtual threads

Am 20.03.24 um 18:17 schrieb Christopher Schultz: Rainer, Thanks for writing this up. On 3/20/24 07:22, Rainer Jung wrote: I wanted to share an observation and I hope the things are correct how I am describing them. Maybe things have already improved and I am not aware of it, hints welcome.

Re: Observability of virtual threads

Rainer, Thanks for writing this up. On 3/20/24 07:22, Rainer Jung wrote: I wanted to share an observation and I hope the things are correct how I am describing them. Maybe things have already improved and I am not aware of it, hints welcome. Part of JEP 425 (Project Loom, Java virtual thread

Re: Observability of virtual threads

Thanks Romain, I am well aware of the limits oof this attempt concerning async processing. Still lots of applications can still be diagnosed with this methodology and I am a bit frustrated, that project loom simply dropped support for thread inspection via JMX and as a replacement provided a

Re: Observability of virtual threads

Hi Rainer, Think this is not related to virtual threads I think and way older (2010?). Since some years we use AsyncContext and therefore thread dumps don't match pending requests but just active computation (you can get 8K requests with 8 threads for ex). Most of the sync instrumentation (assumpt