Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-25 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > > Small misunderstanding to clear up here; Mea culpa - glad this was clarified earlier, gotta catch up on archives from most-recent first I see :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For add

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-25 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Mark Thomas wrote: > > Given that a -1 vote is not valid for a release vote, as soon as we > have 3 +1's from the PMC we can release. Small misunderstanding to clear up here; -1 is a legitimate vote There must be 3 more +1's than -1's (and at least 3 +1's as you say) A -1 is NOT a veto

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-05 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Feb 3, 2007, at 2:38 PM, Ted Husted wrote: Or, 1. create tarball and unofficial binaries, put them on people.apache.org/~remm/tomcat-6 2. call for alpha/beta/stable vote on build 3. wait 72 hours 4. if 3 +1's and more +1s than -1s, publish previously created tarball and binaries to www.apac

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-04 Thread Remy Maucherat
Mark Thomas wrote: Remy Maucherat wrote: I am ok with changing the release process if something simpler is possible. I am interested in speeding up the process by cutting back on the number of votes. The process would be: 1. create tarball and unofficial binaries, put them on people.apache.org/

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-03 Thread Ted Husted
Or, 1. create tarball and unofficial binaries, put them on people.apache.org/~remm/tomcat-6 2. call for alpha/beta/stable vote on build 3. wait 72 hours 4. if 3 +1's and more +1s than -1s, publish previously created tarball and binaries to www.apache.org/dist/tomcat/tomcat-6, else wait longer 5.

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-03 Thread Mark Thomas
Remy Maucherat wrote: > I am ok with changing the release process if something simpler is > possible. I am interested in speeding up the process by cutting back on > the number of votes. > > The process would be: > 1. create tarball and unofficial binaries, put them on > people.apache.org/~remm/to

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-03 Thread Mark Thomas
Yoav Shapira wrote: > Hi, > > On 2/2/07, Mark Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yoav Shapira wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > On 2/2/07, Mark Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Given that a -1 vote is not valid for a release vote, as soon as we >> > >> > Umm, why is a -1 not valid for a release?

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-02 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, On 2/2/07, Mark Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yoav Shapira wrote: > Hi, > > On 2/2/07, Mark Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Given that a -1 vote is not valid for a release vote, as soon as we > > Umm, why is a -1 not valid for a release? Standard Apache procedure as per http://www.

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-02 Thread Mark Thomas
Yoav Shapira wrote: > Hi, > > On 2/2/07, Mark Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Given that a -1 vote is not valid for a release vote, as soon as we > > Umm, why is a -1 not valid for a release? Standard Apache procedure as per http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html Mark --

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-02 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, On 2/2/07, Mark Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Given that a -1 vote is not valid for a release vote, as soon as we Umm, why is a -1 not valid for a release? It can be overridden with a majority of and at least 3 +1 votes, but it's valid. It's also why the vote cannot be concluded in h

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-02 Thread Remy Maucherat
Mark Thomas wrote: The bit that has to be done (ie is mandated by Apache rules) is a vote by the PMC (three +1's required) to release a tarball. Given that a -1 vote is not valid for a release vote, as soon as we have 3 +1's from the PMC we can release. This means the release process can be: 1.

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-02 Thread Mark Thomas
Remy Maucherat wrote: > Mladen Turk wrote: >> If you think its a PITA, don't do it. > > Apparently, it has to be done that way. I think it's a PITA because it > does take a lot of time (every vote needs a few days, etc). The bit that has to be done (ie is mandated by Apache rules) is a vote by th

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-02 Thread Remy Maucherat
Mladen Turk wrote: If you think its a PITA, don't do it. Apparently, it has to be done that way. I think it's a PITA because it does take a lot of time (every vote needs a few days, etc). Rémy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EM

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-02 Thread Quartz
> But IMHO, I am more interested in seeing a 6.0.x release than 5.5.21 :) > 5.5.21, could be a eternal beta like 5.0.30 for those sticking to that > version. Hi, May the user base have pity on you... Since 5.0.27 until 5.5.9 versions, tomcat had the classloader thread safety show stopper #33743

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-02 Thread Jess Holle
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 17:09 +0100, Remy Maucherat wrote: Mladen Turk wrote: Anyhow, a thing like Remy is doing for 6.0 would be nice to have. It offers a build before official tag Tagged sources are best here :) Tagged build does nothing for us, sin

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-02 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 17:09 +0100, Remy Maucherat wrote: > Mladen Turk wrote: > > Anyhow, a thing like Remy is doing for 6.0 would be nice to have. > > It offers a build before official tag Tagged sources are best here :) Tagged build does nothing for us, since we build from source. So if the buil

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-02 Thread Mladen Turk
Remy Maucherat wrote: Mladen Turk wrote: Anyhow, a thing like Remy is doing for 6.0 would be nice to have. It offers a build before official tag Yes, and it is useless, and it makes the release procedure days longer. Thanks to this nonsense the release procedure now takes over two weeks.

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-02 Thread Remy Maucherat
Mladen Turk wrote: Anyhow, a thing like Remy is doing for 6.0 would be nice to have. It offers a build before official tag Yes, and it is useless, and it makes the release procedure days longer. Thanks to this nonsense the release procedure now takes over two weeks. Unfortunately, it seems I

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-02 Thread Mladen Turk
Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote: yes, early next week, i'll email when I have a target time for the tag Anyhow, a thing like Remy is doing for 6.0 would be nice to have. It offers a build before official tag Can we have that for 5.5.12 as well? The RM can put 'what will be released' in his priv

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-02 Thread Filip Hanik - Dev Lists
yes, early next week, i'll email when I have a target time for the tag Mladen Turk wrote: Yoav Shapira wrote: ... it's got a lot of good and important fixes in it. Filip, you up for cutting the release, say this weekend or early next week? ++1 -- Mladen ---

Re: Let's get 5.5.21 out the door...

2007-02-02 Thread Mladen Turk
Yoav Shapira wrote: ... it's got a lot of good and important fixes in it. Filip, you up for cutting the release, say this weekend or early next week? ++1 -- Mladen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional