Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat v5.5.17-beta Now Available

2006-04-19 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Yoav Shapira wrote: Hi, OK, no problem. So what's our consensus process going forward? Same as before but with a formal vote to cut the release, and same announcements but calling it a "release candidate" instead of a "release" ? 0. usual banter asking 'suppose trunk|branch x is good to go?

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat v5.5.17-beta Now Available

2006-04-19 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, OK, no problem. So what's our consensus process going forward? Same as before but with a formal vote to cut the release, and same announcements but calling it a "release candidate" instead of a "release" ? Yoav On 4/19/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yoav Shapira wro

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat v5.5.17-beta Now Available

2006-04-19 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Yoav Shapira wrote: Bill, Yes, as long as it is not announced as the release, but announced as the candidate, tarball, what have you. I noted specifically that Yoav sent this to announce@ which is definately verboten, pre vote. This might be a nitpick, but I believe I sent it to [EMAIL PRO

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat v5.5.17-beta Now Available

2006-04-19 Thread Yoav Shapira
Bill, > Yes, as long as it is not announced as the release, but announced as the > candidate, tarball, what have you. I noted specifically that Yoav sent this > to announce@ which is definately verboten, pre vote. This might be a nitpick, but I believe I sent it to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROT

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat v5.5.17-beta Now Available

2006-04-19 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Remy Maucherat wrote: Yoav Shapira wrote: Hola, I don't mind changing the process, but as the other Bill noted, what we've been doing for a while is: The process never changed: originally, I was releasing builds (= alpha equivalents) that were then voted as "alpha, beta or stable" in a sing

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat v5.5.17-beta Now Available

2006-04-19 Thread Jim Jagielski
The main idea is that once a tarball is placed in an "official" download location, it should have the support of the PMC behind it, and thus a vote. This is to avoid people downloading it, using it, and considering it as "really released" when it really isn't :) However, 5.5.17 is noted as BETA s

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat v5.5.17-beta Now Available

2006-04-19 Thread Remy Maucherat
Yoav Shapira wrote: Hola, I don't mind changing the process, but as the other Bill noted, what we've been doing for a while is: The process never changed: originally, I was releasing builds (= alpha equivalents) that were then voted as "alpha, beta or stable" in a single subsequent vote. This

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat v5.5.17-beta Now Available

2006-04-19 Thread Mladen Turk
Yoav Shapira wrote: We can codify it more formally in a VOTE thread from now on if need be, I suppose there's no harm in that. Although boring, if it's the ASF rule, there is no harm in that except an additional "official" voting thread. Since like you said, we agree on each release, the RM c

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat v5.5.17-beta Now Available

2006-04-19 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hola, I don't mind changing the process, but as the other Bill noted, what we've been doing for a while is: - Gather consensus in public on the dev list by asking "is this an OK time for a release." We agree on a date and time. It's not a formal [VOTE] thread, but we do this practically every ti

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat v5.5.17-beta Now Available

2006-04-19 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Bill Barker wrote: "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Whoa :) I don't see a vote thread? alpha, beta, gamma, gold, it doesn't matter... any "tarball release" from the Apache Software Foundation must be preceeded by a vote. explanation> Lo

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat v5.5.17-beta Now Available

2006-04-18 Thread Bill Barker
"William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Whoa :) I don't see a vote thread? > > alpha, beta, gamma, gold, it doesn't matter... any "tarball release" from > the > Apache Software Foundation must be preceeded by a vote. explanation> > Long establishe

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat v5.5.17-beta Now Available

2006-04-18 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Whoa :) I don't see a vote thread? alpha, beta, gamma, gold, it doesn't matter... any "tarball release" from the Apache Software Foundation must be preceeded by a vote. Bill Yoav Shapira wrote: The Apache Tomcat team is proud to announce the immediate availability of Tomcat v5.5.17-beta. Th