On 09/05/2018 06:04 PM, Pickfire wrote:
> Silvan Jegen wrote:
>
>> Heyho
>>
>> The site is down and I get a "502 Bad Gateway" response from Nginx.
>>
>> ( http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/ )
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Silvan
>
> Yeah, I also got that while I was doing live streaming for meetup just
Silvan Jegen wrote:
> Heyho
>
> The site is down and I get a "502 Bad Gateway" response from Nginx.
>
> ( http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/ )
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Silvan
Yeah, I also got that while I was doing live streaming for meetup just now. T_T
Heyho
The site is down and I get a "502 Bad Gateway" response from Nginx.
( http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/ )
Cheers,
Silvan
ilf:
suckless.org now supports TLS using LetsEncrypt.
Any chance to implement permanent redirects from http to https?
It seems these 301 redirects are now implemented. Thanks a lot!
--
ilf
Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg!
-- Eine Initia
On 1 September 2017 at 17:05, Janne Heß wrote:
> If you set the HSTS header for HTTPS connections, people will
> automtically redirected to HTTPS if they visited once.
> This would give an improved security because browsers would
> automatically redirect to HTTPS while you could still telnet/curl
If you set the HSTS header for HTTPS connections, people will
automtically redirected to HTTPS if they visited once.
This would give an improved security because browsers would
automatically redirect to HTTPS while you could still telnet/curl it
without having to use HTTPS.
On 09/01/2017 04:52 PM,
On 1 September 2017 at 10:33, Laslo Hunhold wrote:
> Having given this a lot of thought over the last few days, I think
> going with the redirect is the proper approach.
The redirect is infantalizing the visitor. If I open a http:// URL I'm
aware of the implications.
Please end this discussion.
On 1 September 2017 at 10:15, ilf wrote:
> No, I am serious. Users, who think HTTPS sucks, shouldn't use HTTP euther,
> because that sucks, too. The choice shouldn't be HTTPS or HTTP, but HTTPS or
> Gopher. But please let HTTP die.
Gopher is long dead, only some retro-enthusiasts are running goph
> So given the usual use cases, I think in our context
nah, speak for yourself. your usecase and crappy software environment
is irrelevant to all other people you're concerned about.
btw, next you have to stop using plaintext mailinglists. we need a
blockchain obviously.
your 99% is bullshit. 99% of all people don't care to encrypt the
silly suckless website specifically. the 1% that does can just type
the https manually, what's the fucking big deal?
On 9/1/17, Laslo Hunhold wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Sep 2017 10:15:24 +0200
> ilf wrote:
>
> Dear ilf,
>
>> No, I am seri
On Fri, 1 Sep 2017 10:15:24 +0200
ilf wrote:
Dear ilf,
> No, I am serious. Users, who think HTTPS sucks, shouldn't use HTTP
> euther, because that sucks, too. The choice shouldn't be HTTPS or
> HTTP, but HTTPS or Gopher. But please let HTTP die.
>
> In the current setup, users who type the dom
ilf writes:
> In the current setup, users who type the domain suckless.org into their
> URL get HTTP cleartext. I think these users should get HTTPS.
Just print a big ugly warning over HTTP: "HTTP is not supported. Update
your bookmarks."
It's the only step that will lead people both to change so
No, I am serious. Users, who think HTTPS sucks, shouldn't use HTTP
euther, because that sucks, too. The choice shouldn't be HTTPS or HTTP,
but HTTPS or Gopher. But please let HTTP die.
In the current setup, users who type the domain suckless.org into their
URL get HTTP cleartext. I think these
On 31 August 2017 at 21:10, ilf wrote:
> hiro:
>>
>> this is not about just whether something has TLS support, this is about
>> giving the user choices.
>
>
> If you can't speak TLS, then use gopher instead of HTTP. I hear HTTPS sucks,
> too.
Come on, isn't this a contradiction to your always red
hiro:
this is not about just whether something has TLS support, this is
about giving the user choices.
If you can't speak TLS, then use gopher instead of HTTP. I hear HTTPS
sucks, too.
--
ilf
Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg!
-- Eine In
this is not about just whether something has TLS support, this is
about giving the user choices. And the shitty TLS standard, TLS
implementations and browser interfaces are not giving people anything
remotely useful.
As I said before (and I'm repeating for everybody else, since your
dyslexia might
Paul Menzel:
I understood it the way, that there might be programs not being able
to deal with TLS.
The first version of SSL/TLS became a standard in 1999. TLS 1.2 is from
2008, over nine years ago: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5246
Any software that can't deal with TLS is IMHO broken - an
Another funny little detail: You want elitism and require all users to
change/write/contribute C code, but then you think they are too dumb
to realize that they shouldn't 100% trust a http connection?
You think somebody at this level is too dumb to just type the https in
front if they really care a
> Clients who do not wish to connect via HTTPS but HTTP can just ignore
> the STS-header, but browsers who can could expose a configuration
> setting for the user to determine how to behave when being confronted
> with a HSTS-header in an HTTP-context.
>
> This would completely rid us from the need
> These are 2 different issues and HTTP redirection is optional.
Something being optional does not prevent it from having net negative effect.
> Renewing certificates is much easier with LetsEncrypt. All subdomains of
> suckless are known. There are too many subdomains though imho.
Nobody can re
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 04:15:33PM +0200, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
> On 31 August 2017 at 15:36, Hiltjo Posthuma wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 03:07:11PM +0200, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
> >> well ;)), but I'm also a sceptic of HSTS.
> >
> > Can you explain why you are a sceptic of HSTS?
>
> I'm sc
On 31 August 2017 at 15:36, Hiltjo Posthuma wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 03:07:11PM +0200, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
>> well ;)), but I'm also a sceptic of HSTS.
>
> Can you explain why you are a sceptic of HSTS?
I'm sceptic of using HSTS on suckless.org. I think it is superfluous.
I really pref
On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 15:36:03 +0200
Hiltjo Posthuma wrote:
Dear Hiltjo,
> There is no issue (anymore) because I fixed the main template.
> An example is the logo.svg had a direct http:// link. This gives a
> "mixed content" warning in your browser. A MITM can abuse plain-text
> traffic, this is n
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 03:07:11PM +0200, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
> On 31 August 2017 at 14:45, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Now we have something much worse: letsencrypt and this completely
> > insecure http redirection snake-oil.
> >
> > With letsencrypt you now have to put extra work (can't
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 02:45:03PM +0200, hiro wrote:
> > I agree or just a simple HTTPs browser bookmark. I think thats better on
> > many
> > levels, for example otherwise someone can also spoof a plain HTTP redirect.
>
> Browser distributors had the chance to implement something like this,
> pl
On 31 August 2017 at 14:45, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Now we have something much worse: letsencrypt and this completely
> insecure http redirection snake-oil.
>
> With letsencrypt you now have to put extra work (can't keep track of
> all the individual subdomains either, wildcards are sudden
> I agree or just a simple HTTPs browser bookmark. I think thats better on
> many
> levels, for example otherwise someone can also spoof a plain HTTP redirect.
Browser distributors had the chance to implement something like this,
plus client side certificate pinning, but they fucked it up.
Now we
> Some privacy-settings clean all states on exit, including cookes and
> HSTS.
You have to make a trade-off here anyway. You can't have perfection at no costs.
And if Eve controls the path between Adam and suckless it simply won't
allow a redirection to https.
There's no significant added securit
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 11:42:51AM +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
> Dear suckless folks,
>
>
> On 08/31/17 11:36, ilf wrote:
> > Hiltjo Posthuma:
> > > I'm not a fan of automatic http to HTTPs redirects. It would break
> > > support for some text-based clients or some simple scripts as an
> > > exampl
> Can you tell which clients and scripts break and how?
Any client.
Ciphers keep on changing, and whenever you use an older SSL
implementation anywhere, even if you specifically don't need the level
of security you nerds have declared necessary, there might be no way
to access the content at all.
> Thanks for all the work!
Same, please keep it up.
Dear suckless folks,
On 08/31/17 11:36, ilf wrote:
Hiltjo Posthuma:
I'm not a fan of automatic http to HTTPs redirects. It would break
support for some text-based clients or some simple scripts as an example.
I'm a huge fan of these redirects. A simple 301 Moved Permanently has
been part of
Hiltjo Posthuma:
I'm not a fan of automatic http to HTTPs redirects. It would break
support for some text-based clients or some simple scripts as an
example.
I'm a huge fan of these redirects. A simple 301 Moved Permanently has
been part of RFC 2616 sinde 1999 and anything not able to handle
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:17:48AM +0200, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
> Hi Hiltjo,
>
> On 30 August 2017 at 23:06, Hiltjo Posthuma wrote:
> > suckless.org now supports TLS using LetsEncrypt. Cloning git repos over
> > HTTPS
> > works now. Some links on the page have been changed to allow both HTTP and
yOn Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:02:43AM +0200, ilf wrote:
> Hiltjo Posthuma:
> > suckless.org now supports TLS using LetsEncrypt.
>
> Awesome, thanks a lot!
>
> Any chance to implement permanent redirects from http to https?
>
> --
> ilf
>
> Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick
Hi Hiltjo,
On 30 August 2017 at 23:06, Hiltjo Posthuma wrote:
> suckless.org now supports TLS using LetsEncrypt. Cloning git repos over HTTPS
> works now. Some links on the page have been changed to allow both HTTP and
> HTTPS.
>
> HSTS is not fully working yet. This will be fixed.
>
> The IPv6 A
Hiltjo Posthuma:
suckless.org now supports TLS using LetsEncrypt.
Awesome, thanks a lot!
Any chance to implement permanent redirects from http to https?
--
ilf
Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg!
-- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tast
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Hiltjo Posthuma
wrote:
> suckless.org now supports TLS using LetsEncrypt. Cloning git repos over HTTPS
> works now. Some links on the page have been changed to allow both HTTP and
> HTTPS.
Thanks for all the work!
Cheers,
Silvan
See Robert French of Sacramento PD.
if he can come back.
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Laslo Hunhold wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 23:06:10 +0200
> Hiltjo Posthuma wrote:
>
> Dear Hiltjo,
>
>> suckless.org now supports TLS using LetsEncrypt. Cloning git repos
>> over HTTPS works now. Some link
On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 23:06:10 +0200
Hiltjo Posthuma wrote:
Dear Hiltjo,
> suckless.org now supports TLS using LetsEncrypt. Cloning git repos
> over HTTPS works now. Some links on the page have been changed to
> allow both HTTP and HTTPS.
>
> HSTS is not fully working yet. This will be fixed.
>
Hi community members!,
suckless.org now supports TLS using LetsEncrypt. Cloning git repos over HTTPS
works now. Some links on the page have been changed to allow both HTTP and
HTTPS.
HSTS is not fully working yet. This will be fixed.
The IPv6 record was added and IPv6 is fully working now.
no you
On 2017-03-29 4:03 pm, Jordan Pisaniello wrote:
Fuck off
On Mar 29, 2017, at 2:00 AM, dev+h...@suckless.org wrote:
Topics (messages 26105 through 26154):
[dev] Surf update
26105 - Nick
[dev] [ask] search binary file offset in file
26106 - Amer
[dev] [ask] search binary f
Fuck off
> On Mar 29, 2017, at 2:00 AM, dev+h...@suckless.org wrote:
>
> Topics (messages 26105 through 26154):
>
> [dev] Surf update
> 26105 - Nick
>
> [dev] [ask] search binary file offset in file
> 26106 - Amer
>
> [dev] [ask] search binary file offset in file
> 26107 - Ale
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 9:33 AM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> shut up [9]
>
> [9] seriously
>
You remind me of my hike in the mountains last weekend that involved abseiling.
A total let-down.
cheers!
mar77i
shut up [9]
[9] seriously
On 11/16/16, Martin Kühne wrote:
> You think you're so great, don't you [0].
>
> cheers!
> mar77i
>
> [0]
> http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/You#You_think_you.27re_so_great.2C_don.27t_you
>
>
You think you're so great, don't you [0].
cheers!
mar77i
[0]
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/You#You_think_you.27re_so_great.2C_don.27t_you
q
On 28 February 2013 15:01, Edgaras wrote:
> Seems to be working well for me. Maybe you'r having routing problems.
Sam correctly pointed out that the httpd was down, it just came back
up. http://stats.webconverger.org/h2/suckless.org/059.csv
Seems to be working well for me. Maybe you'r having routing problems.
suckless.org seems to be down
$ wget http://suckless.org/
--2013-02-28 17:31:43-- http://suckless.org/
Resolving suckless.org... 78.47.162.114
Connecting to suckless.org|78.47.162.114|:80... failed: Connection
refused.
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 07:52:06PM +0100, Deric Bytes wrote:
>> Unsubscribe
>
> No.
>
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On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
> Ok, done
Thanks, I think this is a good change. Yes, man pages over HTTP are a
little silly, but it does come in handy for studying a tool's
properties using a ubiquitous content viewer (web browser).
rmull
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
> Actually I conclude that the current wman apps for werc sucks big
> time. All I really want is, that if there is a *.[1-9] file in the
> directory, it will be formatted using troff instead markdown. That's
> much simpler and the man pages wo
On 11/02/2012 17:52, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
On 11 February 2012 17:54, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
Ok, done, see
http://man.suckless.org
http://man.suckless.org/9base
http://man.suckless.org/sbase
Thanks, I'm running OpenBSD + suckless tools in a virtual machine whilst
I'm learning to use
On 11 February 2012 17:54, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
> Actually I conclude that the current wman apps for werc sucks big
> time. All I really want is, that if there is a *.[1-9] file in the
> directory, it will be formatted using troff instead markdown. That's
> much simpler and the man pages would ap
Actually I conclude that the current wman apps for werc sucks big
time. All I really want is, that if there is a *.[1-9] file in the
directory, it will be formatted using troff instead markdown. That's
much simpler and the man pages would appear in the site menu.
I will hack this and get rid of wm
On 11 February 2012 17:41, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
> Except 9base and sbase have different URLs:
http://man.suckless.org/9base/1/
http://man.suckless.org/sbase/1/
Sorry for the noise.
On 11 February 2012 17:00, Andrew Hills wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
>> In such a world you could run a proper environment using qemu or
>> virtualbox, right?
>>
>> Anyhow, if there is more demand for the man pages, I might revise my
>> decision.
>
> Unfortuna
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:41:38 -0500
Andrew Hills wrote:
>
> Before I was familiar with the software, having the man pages on the
> website was very convenient, as the retarded version of man shipped
> with RHEL (at work, of course) wouldn't let me point to an arbitrary
> directory of man page file
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
> In such a world you could run a proper environment using qemu or
> virtualbox, right?
>
> Anyhow, if there is more demand for the man pages, I might revise my decision.
Unfortunately, no. But, when man pages were not immediately available
On 11 February 2012 16:41, Andrew Hills wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
>> I think users should use man on their local host instead.
>
> Before I was familiar with the software, having the man pages on the
> website was very convenient, as the retarded version of m
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
> I think users should use man on their local host instead.
Before I was familiar with the software, having the man pages on the
website was very convenient, as the retarded version of man shipped
with RHEL (at work, of course) wouldn't let m
On 11 February 2012 11:48, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Anselm, consistently you should close the whole web page. Because
> nobody needs shitty things like the web.
We only try to suck less, we don't attempt to not suck at all ;)
Thus using the web in a less sucking way than most others
Anselm, consistently you should close the whole web page. Because
nobody needs shitty things like the web.
On 11.02.2012, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
> On 10 February 2012 06:09, David Krauser wrote:
>> The links to Man pages are broken for some tools.
>>
>> For example, http://tools.suckless.org/sic
On 10 February 2012 06:09, David Krauser wrote:
> The links to Man pages are broken for some tools.
>
> For example, http://tools.suckless.org/sic links to
> http://man.suckless.org/tools/1/sic which "doesn't exist"
Links removed. I think users should use man on their local host instead.
Uriel
Anselm removed the man pages recently. Use man(1).
The links to Man pages are broken for some tools.
For example, http://tools.suckless.org/sic links to
http://man.suckless.org/tools/1/sic which "doesn't exist"
--
David Krauser
Hi there,
please do not perform any list posts, commits or do not wonder when
suckless.org is down for a couple of hours.
I'm currently moving it to the new host. I expect this being finished
in a couple of hours.
Best regards,
Anselm
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Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:30:55 +0200
F
On 05.07.2011 00:50, a.l.e wrote:
> hi
>
> ... not bad... if i can disable transparency, it may be worth a try!
>
Sure you can. There is a config variable in config.h.
Well, not a preprocessor directive, but since it only adds a few lines
and does not need any libs, i think thats ok.
hi
> > one first sorrow: the goal of dwm-sprinkles is to add all the
> > available patches...
> >
> No, definitely not :)
>
> > i would be happier to some of them... plus a few which i would not
> > use but other think are important.
> >
> I intend to make some patches optional (eg the bar
On 23 August 2010 05:14, Josh Wilcox wrote:
> I'm using gnu stow with the dwm source.
>
> I noticed that, in the Makefile, the variable DESTDIR is incorporated into
> path names before the variable PREFIX. I think that in most use-cases
> DESTDIR is an empty variable and this does not matter
Please trim your quoted text and do not top-post.
http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html
In case it happens again:
http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 08:25:38AM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
This is the second time this happened within a month. I think it's a bug in
the hgwebdir handling.
I think it's more likely a bug in the inotify extension. I
looked around and apparently it's known to be extremely buggy. I
disabl
This is the second time this happened within a month. I think it's a bug in
the hgwebdir handling.
Cheers,
Anselm
On 9 Jul 2010 06:23, "Kris Maglione" wrote:
On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 12:17:30AM -0500, Nathan Neff wrote:
>
> Is anyone else having trouble connecting to suckless.org?
It looks lik
On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 12:17:30AM -0500, Nathan Neff wrote:
Is anyone else having trouble connecting to suckless.org?
It looks like an hg process was eating all of the available
memory. That's strange, I've never seen it do that before. I
killed it and restarted the web server and it seems t
On 8 July 2010 23:17, Nathan Neff wrote:
> Is anyone else having trouble connecting to suckless.org?
>
> Thanks,
> --Nate
>
>
"Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at suckless.org."
--
Joel Dávila (505)8816-9911
GNU/Linux User #478359
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Joe74
I am also not able to connect
On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 12:17:30AM -0500, Nathan Neff wrote:
> Is anyone else having trouble connecting to suckless.org?
>
> Thanks,
> --Nate
Is anyone else having trouble connecting to suckless.org?
Thanks,
--Nate
Anselm has written an excellent explanation of the werc setup for suckless.org:
http://werc.cat-v.org/wiki/suckless/
It would be great if others want to document their werc setups, just
send me your desired user/pass and I will add you to the list of
editors for the werc wiki.
In related news, w
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9ct01/
Enjoy
uriel
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