FYI,
There's also quad-wheel [0] which claims ES3 compliance and based upon ANSI C.
[0] https://code.google.com/p/quad-wheel/
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Louis Santillan wrote:
> duktape is a great find and appears quite complete. But still seems
> quite large. There's also Tiny-JS [0] (
On 28/10/2014, Daniel Camolês wrote:
> Capability mode would require the target operating system to have this
> kind of feature.
Yes.
Capsicum [1] works on FreeBSD and Linux and is being ported to OpenBSD.
Plan 9 already has its own security model [2].
> Given a world that have more than one o
2014-10-28 21:38 GMT-02:00 M Farkas-Dyck :
> On 28/10/2014, Daniel Camolês wrote:
>> That's interesting, but there is a problem. How do you execute
>> untrusted code? Maybe some kind of virtual machine?
>
> Thus, or in capability mode.
Capability mode would require the target operating system to
On 28/10/2014, Daniel Camolês wrote:
> 2014-10-28 12:01 GMT-02:00 M Farkas-Dyck :
>> Distribute (source or intermediate) code over 9p. Generic client is 9p
>> client and (compiler or interpreter) of (source or intermediate)
>> language.
>>
>
> That's interesting, but there is a problem. How do you
2014-10-28 12:01 GMT-02:00 M Farkas-Dyck :
> On 25/10/2014, Daniel Camolês wrote:
>> But when it comes to application
>> distribution. By application distribution I mean, when we want to
>> develop and maintain software in a central location and enable several
>> users with a generic client to use
On 25/10/2014, Daniel Camolês wrote:
> But when it comes to application
> distribution. By application distribution I mean, when we want to
> develop and maintain software in a central location and enable several
> users with a generic client to use it.
Distribute (source or intermediate) code ov
duktape is a great find and appears quite complete. But still seems
quite large. There's also Tiny-JS [0] (2k-ish LOC), 42Tiny-JS [1] (a
forked, enhanced, more complete version), and Espruinio [2] (same
original author as Tiny-JS, more complete but focused on Arduino
applications).
[0] https://c
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 01:15:04PM -0500, F Hssn wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 12:34 AM, Andrew Hills wrote:
> > On 10/25/14 13:41, F Hssn wrote:
> >>
> >> Following suckless's minimal philosophy, I'd be interested to find out
> >> ... ...
> >> latest webkit.
> >
> >
> > Do you really want to
F Hssn writes:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 12:34 AM, Andrew Hills wrote:
> > On 10/25/14 13:41, F Hssn wrote:
> >>
> >> Following suckless's minimal philosophy, I'd be interested to find out
> >> ... ...
> >> latest webkit.
> >
> >
> > Do you really want to write your own Javascript engine?
> >
>
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 12:34 AM, Andrew Hills wrote:
> On 10/25/14 13:41, F Hssn wrote:
>>
>> Following suckless's minimal philosophy, I'd be interested to find out
>> ... ...
>> latest webkit.
>
>
> Do you really want to write your own Javascript engine?
>
Well, I hadn't thought of that but no
On 10/25/14 13:41, F Hssn wrote:
Following suckless's minimal philosophy, I'd be interested to find out
if someone has done analysis on how an even minimal browser could be
developed in terms of SLOC, since webkit (r172694) stands at ~2
million lines, 75% of which is C++, while webkitgtk-1.10.2 i
Seems like you deviated a bit from the thread subject.
2014-10-25 19:56 GMT-02:00 Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe
:
>Any _popular_
> reboot would have to require people to change very little about
> their habits, and to do no hard thinking about the nature of the
> Web--if possible, no thinking at all.
It doesn't need to be popular at first; it needs to be co
Quoth Daniel Camolês on Sat, Oct 25 2014 16:29 -0200:
When the choice you have is between 500k or 2 million lines of
code, it hurts to call anything suckless. I think the web needs
a serious reboot.
[snip]
But when it comes to application distribution... I know that we
have ssh and mainframe te
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 06:12:29PM -0200, Daniel Camolês wrote:
> The problem is not with this specific organization.
I meant w3c as w3crap, as in all things www-related (sons of sgml, js, css,
rdf, ...), not as the consortium, which imho isn't that much evil either: it
has only the misfortune t
>> Am I alone? Is there any hope out there?
>
> TL;DR: Imho, there is none. W3c is the total opposite of suckless software.
The problem is not with this specific organization. Design by
committee is the source of the evil. Everybody wants to put a shiny
new feature in there. Also, you never want t
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 04:29:58PM -0200, Daniel Camolês wrote:
> [snip]
> I dream with the day when the Internet will be built
> around a model simple and generic enough that a reasonable programmer
> will be able to code a complete "browser" in a month of work or so.
>
> Am I alone? Is there any
> No, that was not what I was talking about. In this browser discussion,
> I am not interested in ways to understand complexity as your proposed
> solution. I think the fact that the browser needs to be this huge is a
> signal that things are very, very wrong, and a new solution for
> application d
2014-10-25 16:59 GMT-02:00 Kartik Agaram :
>> Am I alone? Is there any hope out there?
>
> I'm working on this problem. I think the solution is white-box testing
> from the ground up, so that software encodes not just the rules about
> what to do but the specific scenarios that the programmer consi
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 04:29:58PM -0200, Daniel Camolês wrote:
> When the choice you have is between 500k or 2 million lines of code,
> it hurts to call anything suckless. I think the web needs a serious
> reboot. It started out as a markup language for presentation-only, and
> then it was morphed
> Am I alone? Is there any hope out there?
I'm working on this problem. I think the solution is white-box testing
from the ground up, so that software encodes not just the rules about
what to do but the specific scenarios that the programmer considered.
Because we only encode rules and not intenti
When the choice you have is between 500k or 2 million lines of code,
it hurts to call anything suckless. I think the web needs a serious
reboot. It started out as a markup language for presentation-only, and
then it was morphed through a convoluted series of additions into an
application distributi
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Quentin Rameau wrote:
> Hi, I tried to port surf for the webkit2 (WebKitGTK 2.6 / GTK3), here
> is the code:
> git://quinq.eu.org/surf2
> There will be some bugs, feel free to try it, feedback welcomed.
Noob question (joined the list a couple months ago),
Since s
Hi, I tried to port surf for the webkit2 (WebKitGTK 2.6 / GTK3), here
is the code:
git://quinq.eu.org/surf2
There will be some bugs, feel free to try it, feedback welcomed.
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