Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-08 Thread Uriel
Agreed, people forgets that wmi did support nesting in a similar sense to this (with frames or whatever it was called), and nesting of window structures sucks when the main input method is the keyboard (In rio the boundary is better defined, plus the use of the mouse makes the context much more exp

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-08 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/7/8 yy : > 2009/7/5 Alexander Polakov : >>  Well, explaining is not my best (and english too), so better take a >> look at a picture >>  http://rootshell.be/~polachok/trash/dwm-in-a-win.png > > Well, I think this is awesome, it is sad to see how quickly this > thread turned into another dead-e

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-08 Thread hiro
Sorry, but this sounds complicated. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:57 AM, yy wrote: > 2009/7/5 Alexander Polakov : >>  Well, explaining is not my best (and english too), so better take a >> look at a picture >>  http://rootshell.be/~polachok/trash/dwm-in-a-win.png > > Well, I think this is awesome, it

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-08 Thread yy
2009/7/5 Alexander Polakov : >  Well, explaining is not my best (and english too), so better take a > look at a picture >  http://rootshell.be/~polachok/trash/dwm-in-a-win.png Well, I think this is awesome, it is sad to see how quickly this thread turned into another dead-end discussion about how

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-07 Thread Uriel
I will note that devdraw has been ported to run on top of X (http://plan9.us), and X has been ported to run on top of devdraw (equis by fgb). (Devdraw has also been ported to win32 as part of drawterm and inferno, and as part of a GSoC project to port 9vx to windows.) So if somebody wanted to bui

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-07 Thread David Tweed
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Antoni Grzymala wrote: > David Tweed dixit (2009-07-07, 16:58): >> system, the "full" display-postscript compositing engine behind "full" >> GNUstep and all those other "new" windowing systems that never >> actually got anywhere near completion because the only thing

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-07 Thread Antoni Grzymala
David Tweed dixit (2009-07-07, 16:58): [...] > system, the "full" display-postscript compositing engine behind "full" > GNUstep and all those other "new" windowing systems that never > actually got anywhere near completion because the only thing one could > do with them in their current state was

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-07 Thread David Tweed
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >> a) on top of existing ones >> >> b) existing ones on top >> >> I tend to a) atm just because it would make porting to other platforms >> so much simpler. > > There is no point to running a

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-07 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/7/7 Kurt H Maier : > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >> a) on top of existing ones >> >> b) existing ones on top >> >> I tend to a) atm just because it would make porting to other platforms >> so much simpler. > > There is no point to running a window system on top of an

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-07 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > a) on top of existing ones > > b) existing ones on top > > I tend to a) atm just because it would make porting to other platforms > so much simpler. There is no point to running a window system on top of an existing window system, unless ther

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-07 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/7/7 Robert C Corsaro : > Preben Randhol wrote: >> >> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 01:30:13 +0200 >> Uriel wrote: >> >> >>> >>> How is it different from rio[1]? >>> >>> Oh, wait, forgot that X is over thirty years behind on window system >>> technology[2]. >>> >> >> I'm getting fed up with this X bashin

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-07 Thread Robert C Corsaro
Preben Randhol wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 01:30:13 +0200 Uriel wrote: How is it different from rio[1]? Oh, wait, forgot that X is over thirty years behind on window system technology[2]. I'm getting fed up with this X bashing. Can't you put effort in making something better than moan

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-07 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Uriel dixit (2009-07-07, 02:49): > Funny, I would think X apologists need to find something new to whine about. > > As for Plan 9 not being the future, it seems that even the X > developers themselves disagree with you, there is a reason they lifted > the new X rendering model directly from plan9

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-06 Thread Uriel
Funny, I would think X apologists need to find something new to whine about. As for Plan 9 not being the future, it seems that even the X developers themselves disagree with you, there is a reason they lifted the new X rendering model directly from plan9's draw device. uriel On Mon, Jul 6, 2009

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-06 Thread hiro
We could also just start moaning in canon. For I at least like to moan about bashing about moaning about bash. Thank you for your attention.

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-06 Thread Preben Randhol
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 01:30:13 +0200 Uriel wrote: > How is it different from rio[1]? > > Oh, wait, forgot that X is over thirty years behind on window system > technology[2]. I'm getting fed up with this X bashing. Can't you put effort in making something better than moaning about X all the time.

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-05 Thread Jacob Todd
Yeah. But at least it doesn't look like rio. :) On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 01:30:13AM +0200, Uriel wrote: > How is it different from rio[1]? > > Oh, wait, forgot that X is over thirty years behind on window system > technology[2]. -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpJoNu4NA254.pgp De

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-05 Thread Uriel
How is it different from rio[1]? Oh, wait, forgot that X is over thirty years behind on window system technology[2]. uriel [1] http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/1/rio [2] http://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/concurrent_window_system/ On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Mate Nagy wrote: > Yo, >>  Something lik

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-05 Thread Samuel Baldwin
What's wrong with using floating mode for some windows? -- Samuel 'Shardz' Baldwin - staticfree.info/~samuel

Re: [dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-05 Thread Mate Nagy
Yo, > Something like this was requested by some people here and there who > are not comfortable with running a tiling window manager for all the > windows. how is this different from Xephyr/Xnest? Regards, Mate

[dev] dwm in a window

2009-07-05 Thread Alexander Polakov
Hi all Something like this was requested by some people here and there who are not comfortable with running a tiling window manager for all the windows. Well, explaining is not my best (and english too), so better take a look at a picture http://rootshell.be/~polachok/trash/dwm-in-a-win.png