Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-05 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 4 August 2010 05:13, Wolf Tivy wrote: > > Sounds like vi. > except with a clean command set and less legacy baggage. And structural regular expressions, and less modality, and sam networking. It sounds like vi in the sense that yes, it edits text. Regarding the command input, imo there should

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-04 Thread markus schnalke
[2010-08-03 16:30] Joe > [08/03/10] @11:28AM PDT, mei...@marmaro.de wrote: > > [2010-08-03 10:14] Joe > > > NAME > > >ed - text editor > > > > > > SYNOPSIS > > >ed [-] [-sx] [-p string] [file] > > > > It should be: ed [-] [file] > > I concur. fwd: sj...@apple.com. > My only

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Wolf Tivy
> Sounds like vi. except with a clean command set and less legacy baggage.

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Jacob Todd
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 04:29:34PM -0700, Wolf Tivy wrote: > My current idea is just to have the screen displaying the file (where?) > with dot highlighted. A few lines at the bottom would have > the command line, maybe it would dynamically adjust for multiline > commands, I dunno. You could cursor

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Joe
[08/03/10] @11:28AM PDT, mei...@marmaro.de wrote: > [2010-08-03 10:14] Joe > > NAME > >ed - text editor > > > > SYNOPSIS > >ed [-] [-sx] [-p string] [file] > > It should be: ed [-] [file] I concur. fwd: sj...@apple.com. My only other choice is 9 man ed: SYNOPSIS

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Wolf Tivy
  > Curses does support mouse use at this point, and seeing as the > use of > the mouse to select text is one of the big features of sam, I think > it'd be important to keep that. Instead of using the menu, the options > from it could all be mapped to single or chorded keystrokes of the > left han

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Evan Gates
> So on that note, it looks like curses is the way to go (as has been > previously suggested). Then the issue is how closely our curses > samterm would resemble bitmap samterm. Considering all the clicky > menus and scrollbars and such, it may be best for the curses interface > to be a totally diff

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread hiro
> ED(1) > ED(1) > NAME >ed - text editor > > SYNOPSIS >ed [-] [-sx] [-p string] [file] > > DESCRIPTION >ed is a line-oriented text editor. It is used to create, display, > mod- >ify and otherwise manipulate text files. > > WARNING > Everyone involved in the de

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread markus schnalke
[2010-08-03 10:14] Joe > > ED(1)ED(1) > NAME >ed - text editor > > SYNOPSIS >ed [-] [-sx] [-p string] [file] It should be: ed [-] [file] meillo

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Wolf Tivy
> Yes, indeed. Both acme and samterm ship with their very own window > manager, so you can fullscreen acme in rio and pretend you're using > wmii. And samterm is even worse: a stacking window manager > within a > stacking window manager (so you can stack while you stack). > > There is a good reas

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Joe
[08/03/10] @ 3:43AM PDT, ur...@berlinblue.org wrote: > > In case you're wondering why I know *that*, nano is the least bad > > editor on the standard Arch Linux install CD image (the others are joe > > and traditional, breaks-if-you-push-a-cursor-key-in-insert-mode vi; > > I'd be happy with ed, bu

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 3 August 2010 17:43, Joseph Xu wrote: > I said I'm guessing no more than 20 people will find it useful if it was > written. I think in this case samterm is more important than sam itself when it comes to attracting users. Few will convert to using sam if it is ugly and tedious to use. An

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Joseph Xu
On 8/3/2010 11:14 AM, Connor Lane Smith wrote: Hey, On 3 August 2010 09:50, Joseph Xu wrote: Very few people use sam to begin with, even fewer would like the curses interface. I'm guessing no more than 20 people. The best reason not to write a program ever: nobody is using it yet. I said I

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 3 August 2010 09:50, Joseph Xu wrote: > Very few people use sam to begin with, even fewer would like the curses > interface. I'm guessing no more than 20 people. The best reason not to write a program ever: nobody is using it yet. > Usually I'll have acme always running and just plumb s

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Jacob Todd
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 12:20:39AM -0700, Wolf Tivy wrote: > I hadn't thought of it like that before. Good point. > Excuse me while I also remove indentation from my my code. > Would you indent your prose? What nonsense have > I been practicing? I do indent my prose, by using paragraphs. > > Thank

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Uriel
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Robert Ransom wrote: > On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 12:01:24 +0200 > Uriel wrote: > >> Anyone that considers for even one second to use nano should be taken >> out and shot on the spot. > > It's not so bad if you build it with the --disable-wrapping-as-root > configure opti

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Robert Ransom
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 12:01:24 +0200 Uriel wrote: > Anyone that considers for even one second to use nano should be taken > out and shot on the spot. It's not so bad if you build it with the --disable-wrapping-as-root configure option and only use it as root. In case you're wondering why I know

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Uriel
even one second to use nano should be taken out and shot on the spot. uriel > - Original Message ----- > From: Joseph Xu > Date: Monday, August 2, 2010 5:30 pm > Subject: Re: [dev] curses samterm > To: dev@suckless.org > >> Under what circumstance would you not be able to

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread hiro
Fortune worthy: X doesn't break that often for me. --Joseph Xu, 8/3/10

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Joseph Xu
- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Xu Date: Monday, August 2, 2010 5:30 pm Subject: Re: [dev] curses samterm To: dev@suckless.org Under what circumstance would you not be able to run sam's gui and have to resort to a curses interface? sam already provides a way to connect the gui to

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Robert Ransom
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 00:20:39 -0700 Wolf Tivy wrote: > Excuse me while I also remove indentation from my my code. > Would you indent your prose? http://google.com/search?q=sense-lining Robert Ransom signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Wolf Tivy
> > Luxuries like syntax coloring would be nice but really not critical. > Would you like reading a book with all adjectives bolded and > nouns italicized? > You may want to take a look at ALGOL 68. I hadn't thought of it like that before. Good point. Excuse me while I also remove indentation fro

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-02 Thread Jacob Todd
On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 03:15:36PM -0700, Wolf Tivy wrote: > Luxuries like syntax coloring would be nice but really not critical. Would you like reading a book with all adjectives bolded and nouns italicized? You may want to take a look at ALGOL 68. pgpvYsNt3zb7E.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-02 Thread Wolf Tivy
y, August 2, 2010 5:30 pm Subject: Re: [dev] curses samterm To: dev@suckless.org > Under what circumstance would you not be able to run sam's gui > and have > to resort to a curses interface? sam already provides a way to > connect > the gui to a remote host via ssh to edit files

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-02 Thread Joseph Xu
On 8/2/2010 6:15 PM, Wolf Tivy wrote: I noticed there is a project for a samterm on the project ideas page. Has anyone started on this? It seems like a really good idea. I guess ideally it would be usable without X (in text mode) but would still keep the nice view and selection interface. Luxuri

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-02 Thread Joseph Xu
Under what circumstance would you not be able to run sam's gui and have to resort to a curses interface? sam already provides a way to connect the gui to a remote host via ssh to edit files over a slow connection. I've even done this with an old Windows port of sam running locally and a remote

[dev] curses samterm

2010-08-02 Thread Wolf Tivy
I noticed there is a project for a samterm on the project ideas page. Has anyone started on this? It seems like a really good idea. I guess ideally it would be usable without X (in text mode) but would still keep the nice view and selection interface. Luxuries like syntax coloring would be nice bu