Re: [dev] convergence

2013-01-02 Thread Sam Watkins
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 11:08:45AM +0100, uki wrote: > There is more Unix-nature in one line of shell script than there is in > ten thousand lines of C. Agreed. However bash is abominable, and even plain Bourne shell is fairly hideous. I hear `rc` is decent. C is mildly decent at heart. I desi

Re: [dev] convergence

2013-01-02 Thread uki
There is more Unix-nature in one line of shell script than there is in ten thousand lines of C. Pozdrawiam, Ɓukasz Gruner 2013/1/2 Sam Watkins : > On Tue, Jan 01, 2013 at 02:13:14PM +1100, Daniel Bryan wrote: >> Bash is my go-to for system scripting, but for something that will run >> 100% of the

Re: [dev] convergence

2013-01-01 Thread Sam Watkins
On Tue, Jan 01, 2013 at 11:03:08PM -0500, Jacob Todd wrote: > I was the others in the thread to unsubscribe. I suggest you take a few > more classes on the english language. s/was/want/ s/english/English/ s/Jacob Todd/some unfriendly guy/ Or, was it off-topic to talk about this here?

Re: [dev] convergence

2013-01-01 Thread Daniel Bryan
On Tue, Jan 01, 2013 at 11:03:08PM -0500, Jacob Todd wrote: > I was the others in the thread to unsubscribe. I suggest you take a few > more classes on the english language. Perhaps if you had quoted someone it would have been less of a non sequitur.

Re: [dev] convergence

2013-01-01 Thread Sam Watkins
On Tue, Jan 01, 2013 at 09:36:29PM -0500, Corey Thomasson wrote: > Implementing an entire userland in a library could only lead to a lot more > sucking. Yes, maybe it would. On the other hand I think it can be good to use the "software tools" / "flow based programming" approach at a smaller scale

Re: [dev] convergence

2013-01-01 Thread Jacob Todd
I was the others in the thread to unsubscribe. I suggest you take a few more classes on the english language. On Jan 1, 2013 10:53 PM, "Kai Hendry" wrote: > On 2 January 2013 10:58, Jacob Todd wrote: > > Please, unsubscribe from the list. > > Tried using the Gmail unsubscribe UI? > http://s.nata

Re: [dev] convergence

2013-01-01 Thread Kai Hendry
On 2 January 2013 10:58, Jacob Todd wrote: > Please, unsubscribe from the list. Tried using the Gmail unsubscribe UI? http://s.natalian.org/2013-01-02/1357098599_1366x768.png

Re: [dev] convergence

2013-01-01 Thread Jacob Todd
Please, unsubscribe from the list. Thank you.

Re: [dev] convergence

2013-01-01 Thread Corey Thomasson
On Jan 1, 2013 8:02 PM, "Daniel Bryan" wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 10:01:10AM +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 01, 2013 at 02:13:14PM +1100, Daniel Bryan wrote: > > > Bash is my go-to for system scripting, but for something that will run > > > 100% of the time on my system for year

Re: [dev] convergence

2013-01-01 Thread Sam Watkins
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 12:04:21PM +1100, Daniel Bryan wrote: > On the other hand, it's not the fact that C is compiled that makes it > more efficient than the interepreted bash - it's the fact that C is just > reading files and filling buffers, whereas Bash is doing a dozen > fork+execs. Yes. It

Re: [dev] convergence

2013-01-01 Thread Daniel Bryan
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 10:01:10AM +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: > On Tue, Jan 01, 2013 at 02:13:14PM +1100, Daniel Bryan wrote: > > Bash is my go-to for system scripting, but for something that will run > > 100% of the time on my system for years it's not over-engineering to do > > it efficiently. >

[dev] convergence

2013-01-01 Thread Sam Watkins
On Tue, Jan 01, 2013 at 02:13:14PM +1100, Daniel Bryan wrote: > Bash is my go-to for system scripting, but for something that will run > 100% of the time on my system for years it's not over-engineering to do > it efficiently. It would be nice to extend C with suitable function and macro libraries