Re: [dev] UTF-8 copyright symbol

2009-10-23 Thread Claudio M. Alessi
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:07:03PM +0200, Uriel wrote: > This whole thread is stupid: the complaint about UTF-8 chars is > stupid, and the "copyright notice" is stupid. > > A simple mention in the readme like: "This code is released to the > public domain and under the MIT and ISC licenses, pick w

Re: [dev] UTF-8 copyright symbol

2009-10-23 Thread Julien Steinhauser
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:25:43PM -0400, Kris Maglione wrote: > Hell, even MS's console font has ©, and has since the early DOS days. Sure, that was even one of the first char they put in their fonts.

Re: [dev] UTF-8 copyright symbol

2009-10-22 Thread KIMURA Masaru
2009/10/23 Kris Maglione : > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 09:54:07AM +0900, KIMURA Masaru wrote: >>> >>> How would it make the software suck less? How would it improve >>> interactions >>> with other software? No one's even posed a good case for this causing >>> problems at all. So, in a non-UTF-8 local

Re: [dev] UTF-8 copyright symbol

2009-10-22 Thread Kris Maglione
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 09:54:07AM +0900, KIMURA Masaru wrote: How would it make the software suck less? How would it improve interactions with other software? No one's even posed a good case for this causing problems at all. So, in a non-UTF-8 locale you don't see a copyright sign. In 8859-1, yo

Re: [dev] UTF-8 copyright symbol

2009-10-22 Thread KIMURA Masaru
Hi, 2009/10/23 Kris Maglione : > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 04:17:19PM -0400, Niki Yoshiuchi wrote: >> >> However, anything that can be done to make the source code for suckless >> projects suck less (in regards to its interactions with software, some of >> which may suck) is a Good Thing. >> >> Sinc

Re: [dev] UTF-8 copyright symbol

2009-10-22 Thread Uriel
This whole thread is stupid: the complaint about UTF-8 chars is stupid, and the "copyright notice" is stupid. A simple mention in the readme like: "This code is released to the public domain and under the MIT and ISC licenses, pick whichever option suits you." should be enough, or if you feel real

Re: [dev] UTF-8 copyright symbol

2009-10-22 Thread Kris Maglione
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:50:05PM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote: 2009/10/22 markus schnalke : Dwm, surf, and probably more suckless projects contain the copyright symbol as UTF-8 character. In most cases, if not always, it is the only non-ASCII character in those files. I suggest to replace it w

Re: [dev] UTF-8 copyright symbol

2009-10-22 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/10/22 markus schnalke : > Dwm, surf, and probably more suckless projects contain the copyright > symbol as UTF-8 character. In most cases, if not always, it is the only > non-ASCII character in those files. > > I suggest to replace it with ``Copyright'' or ``Copyright (c)''. > (``(c)'' alone i

Re: [dev] UTF-8 copyright symbol

2009-10-22 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
On 10/22/09, A.J. Gardner wrote: > given where credit is due. Something like "Notice: So-and-so created > this work. Do what you like with it, but don't claim you came up with > it 'cause that's lying. And nobody likes a liar. Thanks." let me guess.. you are not a lawyer berne convention (1886)

Re: [dev] UTF-8 copyright symbol

2009-10-22 Thread Kris Maglione
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 04:17:19PM -0400, Niki Yoshiuchi wrote: However, anything that can be done to make the source code for suckless projects suck less (in regards to its interactions with software, some of which may suck) is a Good Thing. Since this change requires no real effort and can sli

Re: [dev] UTF-8 copyright symbol

2009-10-22 Thread Kris Maglione
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 03:00:34PM -0500, A.J. Gardner wrote: Then again, why bother appealing to copy "rights" and similar hooey in the first place? I always consider it to be enough simply to appeal to good sense, good manners, and social pressure to ensure credit is given where credit is due.

Re: [dev] UTF-8 copyright symbol

2009-10-22 Thread Niki Yoshiuchi
To attempt to bring it back on topic, here are my thoughts: Any software that can't handle utf-8 should be replaced with software that sucks less. However, anything that can be done to make the source code for suckless projects suck less (in regards to its interactions with software, some of whic

Re: [dev] UTF-8 copyright symbol

2009-10-22 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:00 PM, A.J. Gardner wrote: > Then again, why bother appealing to copy "rights" and similar hooey in > the first place? I always consider it to be enough simply to appeal to > good sense, good manners, and social pressure to ensure credit is > given where credit is due. So

Re: [dev] UTF-8 copyright symbol

2009-10-22 Thread A.J. Gardner
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:40 PM, markus schnalke wrote: > Dwm, surf, and probably more suckless projects contain the copyright > symbol as UTF-8 character. In most cases, if not always, it is the only > non-ASCII character in those files. > > I suggest to replace it with ``Copyright'' or ``Copyrig

Re: [dev] UTF-8 copyright symbol

2009-10-22 Thread Jacob Todd
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:40:13PM +0200, markus schnalke wrote: > Dwm, surf, and probably more suckless projects contain the copyright > symbol as UTF-8 character. In most cases, if not always, it is the only > non-ASCII character in those files. > > I suggest to replace it with ``Copyright'' or

[dev] UTF-8 copyright symbol

2009-10-22 Thread markus schnalke
Dwm, surf, and probably more suckless projects contain the copyright symbol as UTF-8 character. In most cases, if not always, it is the only non-ASCII character in those files. I suggest to replace it with ``Copyright'' or ``Copyright (c)''. (``(c)'' alone is not enough from the lawyer POV, AFAIK.