Re: [dev] Suckless e-comerce script proposal

2016-09-23 Thread Joseph Graham
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:24:46AM +0800, Kai Hendry wrote: > Yes, make the site static & host on S3/CloudFront. Generate from a DB > of your stock/inventory. Go lang's html/template makes this painless. > > Dynamic bits should be ReactJS chatting with Stripe APIs. I would go > so far as use Strip

Re: [dev] Suckless e-comerce script proposal

2016-09-22 Thread Kai Hendry
Yes, make the site static & host on S3/CloudFront. Generate from a DB of your stock/inventory. Go lang's html/template makes this painless. Dynamic bits should be ReactJS chatting with Stripe APIs. I would go so far as use Stripe to store the customer object et al. You can get it back out easy eno

Re: [dev] Suckless e-comerce script proposal

2016-09-22 Thread Bobby Powers
Hi Joseph! Joseph Graham wrote: > Hiding the internals of the system just for the sake of hiding them sounds > like > Microsoft's philosophy. Think of it the other way: what is gained by showing the user "/cgi-bin/"? I suggest it conveys 0 bits of useful information to the user, and clutters th

Re: [dev] Suckless e-comerce script proposal

2016-09-22 Thread Joseph Graham
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 09:28:56AM -0400, Bobby Powers wrote: > Hi Joseph, > > Joseph Graham wrote: > > The principal is: most of the website is static. Static index pages. Static > > item description pages. The item description pages link to a CGI script* > > with > > an ID for the product in a

Re: [dev] Suckless e-comerce script proposal

2016-09-22 Thread Joseph Graham
Thanks guys, I've recieved some good honest feedback, especially from Bobby. I like FRIGN's idea of using gift-cards to buy from amazon. Remonds me of how I used to use a pay-as-you-go phone which I only topped up with cash. -Joseph

Re: [dev] Suckless e-comerce script proposal

2016-09-22 Thread FRIGN
On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 17:56:24 +0200 Kamil Cholewiński wrote: Hey Kamil, > Thanks for the tip! I'll share this with our IT dept. are you being sarcastic? Of course you can't use it for corporation-size investments, but for personal stuff, it really works out. As an added bonus, I think that when

Re: [dev] Suckless e-comerce script proposal

2016-09-22 Thread Kamil Cholewiński
On Thu, 22 Sep 2016, FRIGN wrote: > A good way to shop at Amazon is with gift cards. [...] Thanks for the tip! I'll share this with our IT dept.

Re: [dev] Suckless e-comerce script proposal

2016-09-22 Thread Jochen Sprickerhof
* Kamil Cholewiński [2016-09-22 16:38]: > Yes, because a three digit code printed on the back of your CC, that > changes once in every 3-5 years, and that gets shared with three dozen > different vendors, is s mch beeetteeer. Huh, I never proposed that, but rather FinT which has strong cr

Re: [dev] Suckless e-comerce script proposal

2016-09-22 Thread Antenore Gatta
On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 16:09:00 +0200 Kamil Cholewiński wrote: > In Poland, on most online shopping services, you click "pay with bank > transfer" at the checkout. Click the logo of your bank, get a redirect > to the bank's online transaction service, type in your user&pass, > review the transaction

Re: [dev] Suckless e-comerce script proposal

2016-09-22 Thread FRIGN
On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 16:38:43 +0200 Kamil Cholewiński wrote: Hey Kamil, > You're more-or-less without a choice if you want to do online banking. > Also safety in numbers. 99% of the cases of people getting pwned are > because they open random links and don't look at their fucking address > bar.

Re: [dev] Suckless e-comerce script proposal

2016-09-22 Thread Kamil Cholewiński
On Thu, 22 Sep 2016, Jochen Sprickerhof wrote: > I would never do that. Having lot's of JS fiddling around in my bank > account sounds scary. You're more-or-less without a choice if you want to do online banking. Also safety in numbers. 99% of the cases of people getting pwned are because they op

Re: [dev] Suckless e-comerce script proposal

2016-09-22 Thread Jochen Sprickerhof
* Bobby Powers [2016-09-22 09:57]: > Are you saying that doing wire transfers in Europe is common, or doing > wire transfers to pay for online goods? It's common for both. > I'm glad to hear it is less > of a horrendous experience, but it still feels like a suck idea to > make customers jump thr

Re: [dev] Suckless e-comerce script proposal

2016-09-22 Thread Kamil Cholewiński
On Thu, 22 Sep 2016, Bobby Powers wrote: > Are you saying that doing wire transfers in Europe is common, or doing > wire transfers to pay for online goods? I'm glad to hear it is less > of a horrendous experience, but it still feels like a suck idea to > make customers jump through an additional

Re: [dev] Suckless e-comerce script proposal

2016-09-22 Thread Bobby Powers
Hi, Jochen Sprickerhof wrote: > That's country specific. In Europe it's really common and with IBAN and > BIC it's working international. Also have a look at FinTS (former HBCI) > where you have public and private keys to communicate with your bank. > And there is open source software to do all t

Re: [dev] Suckless e-comerce script proposal

2016-09-22 Thread Jochen Sprickerhof
* Bobby Powers [2016-09-22 09:28]: > Ever wonder why existing web sites don't do this? Because it wire > transfers are terrible. Either you force users to use a bank website > (Cookies + JavaScript, so you have just lost your moral high ground), > or you force them to drive to a bank, or call up

Re: [dev] Suckless e-comerce script proposal

2016-09-22 Thread Bobby Powers
Hi Joseph, Joseph Graham wrote: > The principal is: most of the website is static. Static index pages. Static > item description pages. The item description pages link to a CGI script* with > an ID for the product in a query string. So for example > /cgi-bin/order?item=burgundy_shoes_23 First, it

Re: [dev] Suckless e-comerce script proposal

2016-09-22 Thread Kamil Cholewiński
On Thu, 22 Sep 2016, Joseph Graham wrote: > I would like some feedback on some ideas I have for a script to make a very > simple, but very secure, e-commerce website. Maybe it can be "slecommerce". I don't think highly domain-specific applications belong under the suckless umbrella. While each su

[dev] Suckless e-comerce script proposal

2016-09-22 Thread Joseph Graham
Hey all, I would like some feedback on some ideas I have for a script to make a very simple, but very secure, e-commerce website. Maybe it can be "slecommerce". The principal is: most of the website is static. Static index pages. Static item description pages. The item description pages link to a