Hi there,
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 04:00, Laslo Hunhold wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 12:11:09 +0200
> Georg Lehner wrote:
> > A question: why is the scrollback-patch not included in `st` already
>
> exactly my point. I see no reason why there can't at least be a
> scrollback, which defaults to 0 in
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 04:43:04PM +0200, Laslo Hunhold wrote:
> but I first wanted to test the waters and see how the general opinion here is.
Well, unless the hardcore scrollback-is-for-wimps-and-too-hard-to-maintain crew
hid somewhere until now, there seems to be general agreement that everyone
On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 09:58:06 -0400
"Greg Reagle" wrote:
Dear Greg,
> Yes that happen to me occasionally, which is why I use the scrollback
> patch for st. I find it much easier to hit Shift+PageUp than to
> rerun a command. And when the output of a command changes with time,
> re-running it mi
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, at 04:40, Laslo Hunhold wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 08:48:38 +0200
> "Silvan Jegen" wrote:
> But how often do you get some output and think "oh, I
> actually needed that"
Yes that happen to me occasionally, which is why I use the scrollback patch for
st. I find it much eas
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 01:38:09PM +0200, Laslo Hunhold wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 13:27:21 +0200
> Laslo Hunhold wrote:
>
> > I'm definitely not an expert in terminal emulators (Roberto, Hiltjo
> > and Christoph are), but the case is pretty clear to me when I look at
> > scroll[0], which Jan and
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 13:27:21 +0200
Laslo Hunhold wrote:
> I'm definitely not an expert in terminal emulators (Roberto, Hiltjo
> and Christoph are), but the case is pretty clear to me when I look at
> scroll[0], which Jan and Jochen are working on right now.
> If you look at scroll.c, you can see t
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 11:43:29 +0200
Hadrien Lacour wrote:
Dear Hadrien,
> If what you said is true about having to reimplement a terminal
> emulator in the scrollback utility, it completely makes sense to
> integrate it.
I'm definitely not an expert in terminal emulators (Roberto, Hiltjo and
Chri
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 10:40:32AM +0200, Laslo Hunhold wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 08:48:38 +0200
> "Silvan Jegen" wrote:
>
> Dear Silvan,
>
> > I honestly never use tmux either. If I think I may need the output of
> > a program, I just redirect it to a file/editor/pager.
>
> yeah, same here. Bu
On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 08:48:38 +0200
"Silvan Jegen" wrote:
Dear Silvan,
> I honestly never use tmux either. If I think I may need the output of
> a program, I just redirect it to a file/editor/pager.
yeah, same here. But how often do you get some output and think "oh, I
actually needed that" and
Dear Laslo
Laslo Hunhold wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Apr 2020 16:52:15 +0200
> "Silvan Jegen" wrote:
>
> Dear Silvan,
>
> > Yes, the scrollback buffer can be implemented by a different tool like
> > tmux for example. That's why this functionality is not implemented in
> > st from what I understand. Se
On Sun, 05 Apr 2020 16:52:15 +0200
"Silvan Jegen" wrote:
Dear Silvan,
> Yes, the scrollback buffer can be implemented by a different tool like
> tmux for example. That's why this functionality is not implemented in
> st from what I understand. Separation of concerns and so on.
>
> I can see why
On 4/5/20 2:58 PM, Greg Reagle wrote:
On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, at 06:57, Laslo Hunhold wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 12:11:09 +0200
Georg Lehner wrote:
A question: why is the scrollback-patch not included in `st` already
exactly my point. I see no reason why there can't at least be a
scrollback, whic
Hi
"Greg Reagle" wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, at 06:57, Laslo Hunhold wrote:
> > On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 12:11:09 +0200
> > Georg Lehner wrote:
> > > A question: why is the scrollback-patch not included in `st` already
> >
> > exactly my point. I see no reason why there can't at least be a
> > scro
On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, at 06:57, Laslo Hunhold wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 12:11:09 +0200
> Georg Lehner wrote:
> > A question: why is the scrollback-patch not included in `st` already
>
> exactly my point. I see no reason why there can't at least be a
> scrollback, which defaults to 0 in config.h.
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 12:11:09 +0200
Georg Lehner wrote:
Dear Georg,
> A question: why is the scrollback-patch not included in `st` already
exactly my point. I see no reason why there can't at least be a
scrollback, which defaults to 0 in config.h.
Wouldn't this make all sides happy?
With best re
On 4/3/20 9:17 AM, Laslo Hunhold wrote:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 21:14:11 +0200
Georg Lehner wrote:
Dear Georg,
...
at this point, why not just use the scrollback-patch?
With best regards
Laslo
Finally I felt nudged to test the scrollback patches. Nice work!
Two of the patches failed - the la
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 21:14:11 +0200
Georg Lehner wrote:
Dear Georg,
> I just figured out, that `st` already has an unlimited scrollback
> buffer
> - kind of.
>
> Run `st -o /tmp/unlimited_scrollbackbuffer`.
>
> Than inside the `st` terminal, you can `less`, `vi` ... whatever you
> want.
>
> Fo
I just figured out, that `st` already has an unlimited scrollback buffer
- kind of.
Run `st -o /tmp/unlimited_scrollbackbuffer`.
Than inside the `st` terminal, you can `less`, `vi` ... whatever you want.
For a starter try: `less -r +G /tmp/unlimited_scrollbackbuffer`
Of course it makes sense
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, at 16:51, Lehner Georg wrote:
> That is absolutely great! R.I.P `sb`.
If a standalone scrollback program were good enough, could it be used to
replace the scrollback code in tmux, dvtm, xterm? Would that be a good idea?
Do you think the developers of these programs would b
Hi Jochen,
That is absolutely great! R.I.P `sb`.
Best Regards,
Georg
On 4/1/20 10:04 AM, Jochen Sprickerhof wrote:
Hi Georg,
* Lehner Georg [2020-03-31 09:42]:
The result is `sb` the scrollback buffer utility. Get it here:
https://at.magma-soft.at/darcs/sb/
https://at.magma-sof
Hi Georg,
* Lehner Georg [2020-03-31 09:42]:
The result is `sb` the scrollback buffer utility. Get it here:
https://at.magma-soft.at/darcs/sb/
https://at.magma-soft.at/darcs/sb/sb-0.1.tar.gz
Nice :). Incidentally younix and me are working on a similar project
based on the i
It's not a patch for st. It is a standalone program. And it is
definitely a different codebase.
Regards,
Georg
On 3/31/20 10:10 AM, Ivan Tham wrote:
Is not that the same as st scrollback patch?
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 09:42:34AM +0200, Lehner Georg wrote:
Hello,
A non goal of `st` is to
Is not that the same as st scrollback patch?
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 09:42:34AM +0200, Lehner Georg wrote:
Hello,
A non goal of `st` is to provide a scrollback buffer - `dvtm` or
`tmux` is proposed for this task.
Since launching several `st`s already DOES provide multiple terminals
I couldn
Hello,
A non goal of `st` is to provide a scrollback buffer - `dvtm` or `tmux`
is proposed for this task.
Since launching several `st`s already DOES provide multiple terminals I
couldn't see the point in using them. So I decided to rip the session
and window stuff out of `dvtm` and only kee
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