Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-24 Thread hiro
Well, it looks better...

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-24 Thread Moritz Wilhelmy
Excerpts from carmen's message of Sun Jan 23 02:35:36 +0100 2011: > minimalist clientside filtering tools exist, eg a 46 line replacement for the > ~600K of code Simile Exhibit project: > http://blog.whats-your.name/public/logex.png Question: Why is your screen-content upside-down and mirrored? B

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-23 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 23 January 2011 01:35, carmen <_...@whats-your.name> wrote: > Camping is decent, but i found it uneditable (without breaking), too much > metaprogramming insanity _why (the original author of camping) certainly loved his metaprogramming. Sinatra can be considered its spiritual descendent, thou

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-23 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 23 January 2011 19:27, Joseph Xu wrote: > On 1/23/11, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >> On 22 January 2011 20:41, Joseph Xu wrote: >>> Here's a little data just to ground things a bit: >>> >>> $ time dash -c '' >>> >>> real    0m0.001s >>> user    0m0.000s >>> sys     0m0.000s >>> >>> $ time rc -c ''

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-23 Thread Joseph Xu
On 1/23/11, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > On 22 January 2011 20:41, Joseph Xu wrote: >> Here's a little data just to ground things a bit: >> >> $ time dash -c '' >> >> real0m0.001s >> user0m0.000s >> sys 0m0.000s >> >> $ time rc -c '' >> >> real0m0.002s >> user0m0.000s >> sys 0m

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-23 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 22 January 2011 20:41, Joseph Xu wrote: > Here's a little data just to ground things a bit: > > $ time dash -c '' > > real    0m0.001s > user    0m0.000s > sys     0m0.000s > > $ time rc -c '' > > real    0m0.002s > user    0m0.000s > sys     0m0.000s Can you provide the following output out o

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-23 Thread Kai Hendry
Thanks Carmen for sharing. Anyone have anything sensible to say besides adhominen attacks on this person's unpopular colour taste? I quite like the idea of doing things in a browser. :P

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-23 Thread hiro
And now I know how my grandparents feel when they see a computer :D

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-23 Thread hiro
This guy is now my new lsd dealer.

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-23 Thread Džen
WTF?! On 23/01/2011 02:35, carmen wrote: ...and this is precisely the garden path that people followed to create modern massive web frameworks. indeed. Merb, when it began, was a 180 line of code masterpiece. somehow, it bloated up to Rails proportions and eventually merged with it. Camping

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-23 Thread Jacob Todd
Do you do everything in a web browser? How the hell do you use that abomination? It's a technicolor clusterfuck. On Jan 22, 2011 8:47 PM, "carmen" <_...@whats-your.name> wrote: >> ...and this is precisely the garden path that people followed to create modern massive web frameworks. > > indeed. Merb

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-23 Thread hiro
Wow your UI is so fucking messed up I had to puke :D

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-22 Thread carmen
> ...and this is precisely the garden path that people followed to create > modern massive web frameworks. indeed. Merb, when it began, was a 180 line of code masterpiece. somehow, it bloated up to Rails proportions and eventually merged with it. Camping is decent, but i found it uneditable (w

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-22 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Joseph Xu wrote: > When we're talking about a small script with trivial running time > (which is not necessarily the case here), the 10x slower startup time > for python does make a difference when you're programmatically > executing the script several thousand tim

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-22 Thread Joseph Xu
Here's a little data just to ground things a bit: $ time dash -c '' real0m0.001s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.000s $ time rc -c '' real0m0.002s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.000s $ time bash -c '' real0m0.007s user0m0.003s sys 0m0.000s $ time python -c '' real0m0.028s

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-20 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:13 AM, John Yates wrote: > What is the largest corpus of code you have authored?  What is the > largest corpus you did not author yet had to master?  At large scale > the choice of language makes a big difference. thank you, john, for your completely irrelevant questions

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-20 Thread John Yates
What is the largest corpus of code you have authored? What is the largest corpus you did not author yet had to master? At large scale the choice of language makes a big difference. Worth a read: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3882 /john (who has written process control systems in assembler

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-20 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 20 January 2011 11:40, Kai Hendry wrote: > What's the point of it being in Python? It's several times the size of > bloated bash! We are trying to make things suck less here, not more. You know the Plan 9 kernel is over two and a half times the size of Unix v6. Why bother, right? Perhap

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-20 Thread pancake
On 01/20/11 14:27, Danilo Bargen wrote: What's the point of it being in Python? It's several times the size of bloated bash! We are trying to make things suck less here, not more. Reading Python sucks a lot less than reading bloated non-modular Bash :) But that's a matter of opinion. Cheers re

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-20 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Danilo Bargen wrote: > Reading Python sucks a lot less than reading bloated non-modular Bash > :) But that's a matter of opinion. If that's your only metric, you should pay a calligrapher to write it out on a nice piece of parchment so you can frame it for easy re

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-20 Thread Danilo Bargen
> What's the point of it being in Python? It's several times the size of > bloated bash! We are trying to make things suck less here, not more. Reading Python sucks a lot less than reading bloated non-modular Bash :) But that's a matter of opinion. Cheers

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-20 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 20 January 2011 12:40, Kai Hendry wrote: > On 20 January 2011 11:26, Danilo Bargen wrote: >> I especially like fetch-tweets.sh. Would be cool to turn this into a >> nice Python script though. > > What's the point of it being in Python? It's several times the size of > bloated bash! We are tryi

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-20 Thread Kai Hendry
On 20 January 2011 11:26, Danilo Bargen wrote: > I especially like fetch-tweets.sh. Would be cool to turn this into a > nice Python script though. What's the point of it being in Python? It's several times the size of bloated bash! We are trying to make things suck less here, not more. I'm happy

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-20 Thread Danilo Bargen
Hey Kai On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Kai Hendry wrote: > http://greptweet.com/ -- Uses grep for searching retrieved tweets That's a pretty awesome idea. Thanks a lot :) But the UI should be improved, to prevent questions like "what does this webapp do?" or "how do I get my tweets after the p

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-10 Thread Kai Hendry
On 10 January 2011 00:10, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I put in a word, press enter, but no grep visible here. But the > concept reminded me of http://9fans.net/archive/ The first input is for the twitter username. Once you have the tweets you can query upon them: http://kaihendry.greptwe

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-09 Thread hiro
I put in a word, press enter, but no grep visible here. But the concept reminded me of http://9fans.net/archive/ And the webcam viewer is a direcory listing if I didn't miss anything?

[dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-09 Thread Kai Hendry
Hi guys, Thought I would share a couple of Web applications I've written lately that's inspired by suckless code: http://greptweet.com/ -- Uses grep for searching retrieved tweets http://cam.dabase.com/ -- Simple image / webcam viewer designed for mobile use Try be nice, :)