On 29 October 2011 14:29, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> Anselm,
>
> Now that this guy has demonstrated he's the sort of asshole who
> conflates "windows" with "the modern world" and attaches decade-old
> meme images to mailing list posts, can we go ahead and block him from
> the list, or are we all going
We could also just ignore the shit out of him. Or mock him a
new asshole.
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Guilherme Lino wrote:
> oh im sorry, didn't know you were all so "smart" and get so much "things
> done".
> carry on then..
> sincerely
> Basement geek
Anselm,
Now that this guy has demonstrated he's the sort of asshole who
conflates "windows" with "the modern wo
oh im sorry, didn't know you were all so "smart" and get so much "things
done".
carry on then..
sincerely
Basement geek
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Connor Lane Smith wrote:
> This thread is demented.
>
> On 29/10/2011, Guilherme Lino wrote:
> > of course for all geeks its great and super
On 29/10/11 hiro said:
> Well, I use Linux because I couldn't customize my task bar.
When I bought my netbook it came with win7 starter. Micro$oft doesn't let you
set your own wallpaper in starter. I couldn't get Debian on it fast enough.
Mike
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i beg to differ
beamer is a total crap!
total pain, light years away from the modern world
i would rather do it in html..
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Peter John Hartman <
peterjohnhart...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I beg to differ.
>
> beamer for my slideshows.
> ledpar/ledmac for critical edit
Well, I use Linux because I couldn't customize my task bar.
> condolences on your shitty university
Makes me appreciate mine a bit more, where the windows section of the
main undergrad lab is a dank little corner mainly populated by
students from other departments who were forced into taking a CS
course.
On 29 October 2011 10:35, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote:
> This whole discussion is missing an important fact, where Windows
> is losing for years now: It's porn.
>
> Just imagine the average porn user, which now shifted its usage
> to the web. Well, in average it needs three months to ge
Greetings.
Guilherme Lino wrote:
>
> yeah but the true is that a linux desktop is almost useless for a normal
> person
>
> i remember first time i used ubuntu. i started a openoffice presentation on
> the 4th slide the system was already unusable. And wet back to windows, even
> google docs was
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Guilherme Lino wrote:
> maybe they are, just like you, a special boy! but lets not talk about that..
>
> in my university we have 700 computer science students
> if 30 like linux its already to much, if really understand really linux
> again to much
condolences on
On 2011-10-29 01:44, Connor Lane Smith wrote:
> This thread is demented... *very* irritating.
Trolls have to perform some socially useful function or else we'd all
have learned by now.
Patrick
* yeah, I know it's only October. ;)
This thread is demented.
On 29/10/2011, Guilherme Lino wrote:
> of course for all geeks its great and super cool.. but so many ppl dont know
> what it is. And if they know they will not spend time to go from a "normal
> responsive with all they need system" to some "unresponsive with lacking
> al
On 29/10/11 Guilherme Lino said:
> people are relieved that the linux class is over and they don't have to use
> it again
> if in 700 computer science students the great majority says "windows is so
> cool", "C# is so cool", "visual studio 2010 is the best" and "linux is
> crap"... thats because a
what you think about this
http://acko.net/ (Termkit)
something like this better implemented on linux will bring 21 century people
into linux basics
--
Guilherme Lino
people are relieved that the linux class is over and they don't have to use
it again
if in 700 computer science students the great majority says "windows is so
cool", "C# is so cool", "visual studio 2010 is the best" and "linux is
crap"... thats because at first sight it looks crap!
i just asked m
On 29/10/11 Guilherme Lino said:
> maybe they are, just like you, a special boy! but lets not talk about that..
>
>
> in my university we have 700 computer science students
>
> if 30 like linux its already to much, if really understand really linux
> again to much
Sorry, I don't know what you'
maybe they are, just like you, a special boy! but lets not talk about that..
in my university we have 700 computer science students
if 30 like linux its already to much, if really understand really linux
again to much
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Michael P. Soulier <
msoul...@digitaltorqu
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Guilherme Lino
> wrote:
> >
> > yeah but the true is that a linux desktop is almost useless for a normal
> > person
>
> who the fuck cares about normal people?
>
>
> --
> # Kurt H Maier
>
>
sorry, every app
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Guilherme Lino
> wrote:
> >
> > yeah but the true is that a linux desktop is almost useless for a normal
> > person
>
> who the fuck cares about normal people?
>
>
> --
> # Kurt H Maier
>
> every application
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:46:53 +0200, Jakub Lach wrote:
> Dnia 28 października 2011 14:17 hiro
> <23h...@googlemail.com> napisał(a):
>
> > And they discourage compiling
> > your own stuff IIRC.
>
> "Watching shit scroll by for hours makes
> me a Linux expert overnight!"
>
Now you're just bein
On 28/10/11 Kurt H Maier said:
> > And I absolutely agree that for most FOSS projects, grokking the source
> > is rather unlikely to have a positive ROI re time and effort, so
>
>
> And that's why suckless.org is important.
Is that to say that suckless.org code is simple enough to be its own
do
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:29:24 -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Pieter Praet wrote:
> > And I absolutely agree that for most FOSS projects, grokking the source
> > is rather unlikely to have a positive ROI re time and effort, so
>
>
> And that's why suckless.org is i
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Pieter Praet wrote:
> And I absolutely agree that for most FOSS projects, grokking the source
> is rather unlikely to have a positive ROI re time and effort, so
And that's why suckless.org is important.
--
# Kurt H Maier
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:41:21 -0400, "Michael P. Soulier"
wrote:
> On 28/10/11 Pieter Praet said:
>
> > When acquiring *any* type of technology (in the very broad sense of the
> > word), you should either make an effort to educate yourself regarding
> > available options, usage and maintenance, o
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:41:52 +0200, Dieter Plaetinck
wrote:
> [...] I think that if generations of people use windows,
> this acclimatization also slowly grows in their DNA,
So, only a matter of time before this becomes reality:
- http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/
> [...]
>
> Dieter
>
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote:
> So knowing this, I would classify the expectations that arise as a
> consequence of being indoctrinated by years of windows usage,
> under the category of intuition :)
your grasp of genetics is breathtaking
--
# Kurt H Maier
Dnia 28 października 2011 14:17 hiro
<23h...@googlemail.com> napisał(a):
> And they discourage compiling
> your own stuff IIRC.
"Watching shit scroll by for hours makes
me a Linux expert overnight!"
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:16:33 +0100
Connor Lane Smith wrote:
> On 28 October 2011 12:46, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> > this is the biggest part of why he's an asshole. if you're not
> > willing to learn how to use a computer don't buy a computer. if
> > your biggest complaint about a piece of softwar
On 28/10/11 Connor Lane Smith said:
> (The only truly intuitive interface is a nipple.)
I have two kids. Trust me, it's not.
Mike
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On 28/10/11 Pieter Praet said:
> When acquiring *any* type of technology (in the very broad sense of the
> word), you should either make an effort to educate yourself regarding
> available options, usage and maintenance, or reimburse someone to do it
> all for you.
>
> If you refuse to do either
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:47:34 +0200, Manolo Martínez
wrote:
> On 10/28/11 at 01:35pm, hiro wrote:
> > > That's because Ubuntu sucks only marginally less than Windows
> > >
> >
> > Huh? Ubuntu sucks a lot more.
>
> I'm just a user of some suckless software, but anyway: if "suck" in this
> thread
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 07:46:50 -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Troels Henriksen wrote:
> > from the purview of the average computer user.
>
> this is the biggest part of why he's an asshole. if you're not
> willing to learn how to use a computer don't buy a computer.
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:18:18 +0200, Troels Henriksen wrote:
> Kurt H Maier writes:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Guilherme Lino wrote:
> >>
> >> yeah but the true is that a linux desktop is almost useless for a normal
> >> person
> >
> > who the fuck cares about normal people?
>
> The
"Ubuntu [...] encourages the occasional foray into the terminal emulator"
It's sadly not what Ubuntu is about. And they discourage compiling
your own stuff IIRC.
I agree with some people here who say Lunix is not Lunix. Of course
it's what you make out of it.
Out of Ubuntu you can only try to mak
On 28 October 2011 12:46, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> this is the biggest part of why he's an asshole. if you're not
> willing to learn how to use a computer don't buy a computer. if your
> biggest complaint about a piece of software is "I can't immediately
> use it" then you are an asshole, full stop
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Troels Henriksen wrote:
> from the purview of the average computer user.
this is the biggest part of why he's an asshole. if you're not
willing to learn how to use a computer don't buy a computer. if your
biggest complaint about a piece of software is "I can't i
On 10/28/11 at 01:35pm, hiro wrote:
> > That's because Ubuntu sucks only marginally less than Windows
> >
>
> Huh? Ubuntu sucks a lot more.
I'm just a user of some suckless software, but anyway: if "suck" in this thread
is used with the semi-technical sense of "not abiding by the suckless
philos
On 27/10/11 Guilherme Lino said:
> yeah but the true is that a linux desktop is almost useless for a normal
> person
Dunno, my Mother is pretty normal. My 9-year-old son is rather special, but
he's had no computer education at all. They both manage.
At least openoffice allows opening of those st
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 07:58, Pieter Praet wrote:
> That's because Ubuntu sucks only marginally less than Windows
>
Huh? Ubuntu sucks a lot more.
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 22:33:18 +0100
Guilherme Lino wrote:
> yeah but the true is that a linux desktop is almost useless for a
> normal person
>
> i remember first time i used ubuntu. i started a openoffice
> presentation on the 4th slide the system was already unusable. And
> wet back to windows,
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:25:48 +0200
Pieter Praet wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:54:12 +0200, Dieter Plaetinck
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 22:33:18 +0100
> > Guilherme Lino wrote:
> >
> > > latex is cool, vim, dwm, but no one out of the professional
> > > field of computer sience have the
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:54:12 +0200, Dieter Plaetinck
wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 22:33:18 +0100
> Guilherme Lino wrote:
>
> > latex is cool, vim, dwm, but no one out of the professional
> > field of computer sience have the time or patience to learn this unix
> > philosophy..
>
> are you trol
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:15:42 -0700, "Suraj N. Kurapati"
wrote:
> On Thu 27 Oct 2011 05:00:41 PM PDT, Pieter Praet wrote:
> > Don't worry, you're not missing out on anything, besides the guy
> > making a total fool of himself in front of a totally oblivious
> > audience (which is just annoying; no
Kurt H Maier writes:
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Guilherme Lino wrote:
>>
>> yeah but the true is that a linux desktop is almost useless for a normal
>> person
>
> who the fuck cares about normal people?
The person who made the talk, obviously. I don't get the cognitive
dissonance here
On Fri 28 Oct 2011 08:54:12 AM PDT, Dieter Plaetinck wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 22:33:18 +0100 Guilherme Lino wrote:
> > no one out of the professional field of computer sience have the
> > time or patience to learn this unix philosophy..
>
> "nobody will ever need more then 64k of memory"..
"I
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 22:33:18 +0100
Guilherme Lino wrote:
> latex is cool, vim, dwm, but no one out of the professional
> field of computer sience have the time or patience to learn this unix
> philosophy..
are you trolling or what?
"nobody will ever need more then 64k of memory"..
now "no profes
On Thu 27 Oct 2011 05:00:41 PM PDT, Pieter Praet wrote:
> Don't worry, you're not missing out on anything, besides the guy
> making a total fool of himself in front of a totally oblivious
> audience (which is just annoying; no comical value whatsoever).
Reminds me of a sketch from the IT Crowd:
h
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 22:33:18 +0100, Guilherme Lino wrote:
> yeah but the true is that a linux desktop is almost useless for a normal
> person
>
s/normal/uninformed
Also, see Kurt Maier's response [1].
> i remember first time i used ubuntu. i started a openoffice presentation on
> the 4th slide
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:49:15 -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Guilherme Lino wrote:
> >
> > yeah but the true is that a linux desktop is almost useless for a normal
> > person
>
> who the fuck cares about normal people?
+1
>
> --
> # Kurt H Maier
>
Peace
--
P
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Guilherme Lino wrote:
>
> yeah but the true is that a linux desktop is almost useless for a normal
> person
who the fuck cares about normal people?
--
# Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Guilherme Lino wrote:
> yeah but the true is that a linux desktop is almost useless for a normal
> person
> i remember first time i used ubuntu. i started a openoffice presentation on
> the 4th slide the system was already unusable. And wet back to windows, even
>
I beg to differ.
beamer for my slideshows.
ledpar/ledmac for critical editions. (http://www.djdekker.net/)
latex for publications.
perl for searches (stanford encyclopedia of philosophy)
git for collaboration (buridanica.net)
antiword to read student papers
and i work in the HUMANITIES, baby.
Pe
yeah but the true is that a linux desktop is almost useless for a normal
person
i remember first time i used ubuntu. i started a openoffice presentation on
the 4th slide the system was already unusable. And wet back to windows, even
google docs was better for the job.
of course latex is cool, vim
Am 27.10.2011 17:57, schrieb Christoph Lohmann:
Greetings.
On 27.10.2011 02:04, Guilherme Lino wrote:
yo
fund this.. it kind of old, but it rise some questions
http://lunduke.com/?p=429
how do you feel about this?
At least he is able to setup a website.
Sincerely,
Christoph Lohmann
Yea
Greetings.
On 27.10.2011 02:04, Guilherme Lino wrote:
> yo
>
> fund this.. it kind of old, but it rise some questions
>
> http://lunduke.com/?p=429
>
> how do you feel about this?
At least he is able to setup a website.
Sincerely,
Christoph Lohmann
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Bryan Bennett wrote:
> I don't think anyone here actually feels that the monolith that most configure
> scripts become is a good thing. However, that's not within the scope of what's
> going on here - the idea being that ./configure is a necessary part of
> compi
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:04:21 +0200, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> You guys are so stupid if you think ./configure is great
>
Nobody said anything of the like.
Are you projecting or something? ;)
Peace
--
Pieter
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:02:46 +0200, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> "this video is not available" sucks
>
Don't worry, you're not missing out on anything, besides the guy
making a total fool of himself in front of a totally oblivious
audience (which is just annoying; no comical value whatso
I don't think anyone here actually feels that the monolith that most configure
scripts become is a good thing. However, that's not within the scope of what's
going on here - the idea being that ./configure is a necessary part of compiling
a sizable portion of software. Saying that we need a 'univer
On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 16:04 +0200, hiro wrote:
> You guys are so stupid if you think ./configure is great
>
beat me to it
You guys are so stupid if you think ./configure is great
"this video is not available" sucks
I watched this last night and raged pretty hard for 45 minutes. The
guy has somevalid points, but proposes absolutely no viable solution
for it. His pointregarding video editors requiring significant
dedicated development time andtheir non-existance for Linux, for
instance, is valid. Asking that di
that guy is wrong in so many ways I won't even bother to mention any specifics.
Sure, the stuff he mentions is somewhat correlated to the real problems with
"spare time open source software", but his interpretations and "solutions", oh
my. He doesn't really know what he's talking about.
Dieter
"And here are the super fancy slides in OpenOffice format."
Stopped here. This guy is not qualified to rant.
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 01:04:42 +0100, Guilherme Lino wrote:
> yo
>
> fund this.. it kind of old, but it rise some questions
>
You're absolutely right, it does raise some questions:
So, not only did you take this guy's useless drivel seriously, but you
actually thought the suckless community woul
yo
fund this.. it kind of old, but it rise some questions
http://lunduke.com/?p=429
how do you feel about this?
--
Guilherme Lino
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