Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-14 Thread patrick295767 patrick295767
what about activating your ssh server only when you need it? You could even activate it via mobile phone (e.g. SMS to your box), and stop your ssh the same way. Exotic ssh port is a very good way to avoid already a good deal of brute attempts. The ssh activation another way to make the box withou

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-03 Thread FRIGN
On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 19:08:16 +0800 Chris Down wrote: > If you do this, you should make sure that you run on a port <1024, > though, otherwise someone could find some way to make your daemon crash > and masquerade as it (which is still protected a little assuming that > your SSH host key is not rea

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-03 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-11-03 09:47, FRIGN wrote: > How effective is it to actually bind sshd to another port (like 1337 for > instance)? > Is that a sane defense against those attacks or have the > attackers advanced in the last few years to to a broader portscan? In my experience, it cuts it down quite signific

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-03 Thread sin
On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 09:47:34AM +0100, FRIGN wrote: > On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 12:26:52 +0200 > sin wrote: > > > Word, I get something like ~100 attacks per few minutes. I rate limit > > it at the firewall level. > > How effective is it to actually bind sshd to another port (like 1337 for > instan

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-03 Thread FRIGN
On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 12:26:52 +0200 sin wrote: > Word, I get something like ~100 attacks per few minutes. I rate limit > it at the firewall level. How effective is it to actually bind sshd to another port (like 1337 for instance)? Is that a sane defense against those attacks or have the attackers

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-03 Thread sin
On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 07:46:25AM +0100, Roberto E. Vargas Caballero wrote: > > Once there was one that was trying to brute force my ssh, but, it was > > sent very fast to blacklist. > > I looked up a bit, and it was a known (found on web list of banned > > ip's) hackers based on Russia. > > Only

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Roberto E. Vargas Caballero
> Once there was one that was trying to brute force my ssh, but, it was > sent very fast to blacklist. > I looked up a bit, and it was a known (found on web list of banned > ip's) hackers based on Russia. Only once?, You must be a lucky man, because the usual is several attacks by each day ... R

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-11-02 22:54, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: > Chris Down said: > > On 2013-11-02 11:13, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: > > Irony? Huh? pgpfsdKrYPUaF.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Thorsten Glaser said: > (The frontend needs not be graphical, of course.) Why? -- Dmitrij D. Czarkoff

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Thorsten Glaser said: > it just involves a little bit of effort. But not much more, since one > needs to trim the quote in other MUAs as well. Such amount of effort stopped me from using mobile Gmail app - I now get to PC in order to answer mail. -- Dmitrij D. Czarkoff

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Chris Down said: > On 2013-11-02 11:13, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: Irony? > Surely the answer to that is to not use Gmail's webmail client, then? It isn't always an option. You might be tied to using Gmail UI for some reason, which makes using other clients impractical. -- Dmitrij D. Czarkof

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Thorsten Glaser
ludovic samek dixit: >encrypted actually? Do you know some dev lists where they use >encryption? I’m carrying the Secure List Server patch for mailman on the installations we use at work. (Reminds me to get the time to update and polish this and upload to Debian proper…) http://non-gnu.uvt.nl/ma

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-11-02 15:18, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Either that, or hand-trim the fullquote before adding one’s own text. > People even do that in Outlook Expreß when they need to but know how > to properly quote… it just involves a little bit of effort. But not > much more, since one needs to trim the q

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Chris Down dixit: >On 2013-11-02 11:13, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: >> Gmail's webmail doesn't allow to tune quoting & attribution in a >> sensible manner, so repeating this every time doesn't make much sense. Meh, until it’s beaten into peoples’ brains… ;-) >Surely the answer to that is to not u

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-11-02 12:03, patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote: > well, a lot of large corporate companies offer a webmail portal? > Accenture for instance. > > IT do not like it so much, but, it is still not too bad in terms of security. You are slowly demonstrating that you do not actually read the e-m

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread patrick295767 patrick295767
well, a lot of large corporate companies offer a webmail portal? Accenture for instance. IT do not like it so much, but, it is still not too bad in terms of security. Microsoft: http://c15048056.r56.cf2.rackcdn.com/2.png No security is perfect :) 2013/11/2 Chris Down : > On 2013-11-02 11:33,

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-11-02 11:33, koneu wrote: > I don't get people who use it either. > However I've been told it's quite useful on public computers. I'm amazed that people consider it wise to access their e-mail on public computers, to be honest. You wouldn't access online banking on a public computer (I hop

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread koneu
Chris Down wrote: >On 2013-11-02 11:13, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: >> Gmail's webmail doesn't allow to tune quoting & attribution in a >> sensible manner, so repeating this every time doesn't make much >sense. >> May be you just move the links to your signature? > >Surely the answer to that is to

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-11-02 11:27, patrick295767 wrote: > But you can always encrypt the email. > Btw, why aren't we posting (emailing to the list) in plain text and > encrypted actually? Do you know some dev lists where they use > encryption? > - I would be interesting if there was. - Yes, this would be a first

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread patrick295767
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > patrick295767 patrick295767 dixit: > >>Security is not perfect. A bouncer is fine, or helps. > > You just want to flame, I’d guess. No, no. I am kinda checking regularly my machines, and I avoid as much as possible to leave open services. M

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-11-02 11:13, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: > Gmail's webmail doesn't allow to tune quoting & attribution in a > sensible manner, so repeating this every time doesn't make much sense. > May be you just move the links to your signature? Surely the answer to that is to not use Gmail's webmail cl

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Thorsten Glaser said: > And neither the one nor the other Googlemail user know how to > properly write eMails. I sense a theme there. Gmail's webmail doesn't allow to tune quoting & attribution in a sensible manner, so repeating this every time doesn't make much sense. May be you just move the lin

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-01 Thread Thorsten Glaser
patrick295767 patrick295767 dixit: >Security is not perfect. A bouncer is fine, or helps. You just want to flame, I’d guess. >The idea of protecting your data makes senses. Security is an >important topic. Says the Googlemail user. Oh, the irony. >2013/11/2 Ryan O�Hara : […] >> On 11/1/13, pat

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-01 Thread patrick295767 patrick295767
Security is not perfect. A bouncer is fine, or helps. The idea of protecting your data makes senses. Security is an important topic. 2013/11/2 Ryan O’Hara : > Use a bouncer if you’re paranoid. Otherwise, keep in mind that people > have better things to do. > > On 11/1/13, patrick295767 patrick295

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-01 Thread Ryan O’Hara
Use a bouncer if you’re paranoid. Otherwise, keep in mind that people have better things to do. On 11/1/13, patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote: > I may reply your question by another question, on the subject of plain > IP list, as follows: > - Do you like to be scanned, or bruted force, ...? > - y

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-01 Thread patrick295767 patrick295767
I may reply your question by another question, on the subject of plain IP list, as follows: - Do you like to be scanned, or bruted force, ...? - you probably matter and prefer to avoid attacks or attempts, right. Well, OFTC kinda sucks (although it works) for this first reason for instance. 2013/

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-01 Thread A
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:19 AM, A wrote: > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:22 AM, patrick295767 patrick295767 > wrote: >> >> I believe that OFTC is not along the suckless philosophy somehow. >> > And why is that? >

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-01 Thread patrick295767 patrick295767
I believe that OFTC is not along the suckless philosophy somehow. 2013/11/1 Chris Down : > On 2013-11-01 09:14, patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote: >> You trace the IP address on OFTC or provide some cloak? > > Go talk to the OFTC ircops if you want that. Usually, they won't give > you one, but who

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-01 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-11-01 09:14, patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote: > You trace the IP address on OFTC or provide some cloak? Go talk to the OFTC ircops if you want that. Usually, they won't give you one, but who cares. pgpg0uM1UBHk_.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-01 Thread patrick295767 patrick295767
You trace the IP address on OFTC or provide some cloak? 2013/11/1 Chris Down : > On 2013-11-01 09:08, patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote: >> Would you know if there could be a new channel of Suckless on irc >> freenode? >> >> I would recommend freenode which is quite popular. > > We already hav

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-01 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-11-01 09:08, patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote: > Would you know if there could be a new channel of Suckless on irc > freenode? > > I would recommend freenode which is quite popular. We already have an IRC channel, #suckless on OFTC. pgpksOqMQRME3.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-01 Thread Kai Hendry
irc://irc.oftc.net/suckless

[dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-01 Thread patrick295767 patrick295767
Hi Guys, Would you know if there could be a new channel of Suckless on irc freenode? I would recommend freenode which is quite popular. Could you create one on freenode, follow and add it to your irc channel...? See you soon ! Pat' -- May Suckless Dev Be With You, Always ...mayb