Greetings comrades.
On 24.10.2011 20:10, Corey Thomasson wrote:
> On 24 October 2011 14:00, mikshaw wrote:
>
>> Unrestricted freedom is impossible
>
> And there's no such thing as restricted freedom.
There is positive discrimination too.
>> I just disagree with people who support those licens
On 24 October 2011 14:00, mikshaw wrote:
>
>
> Unrestricted freedom is impossible
>
And there's no such thing as restricted freedom.
>
> I just disagree with people who support those licenses while rabidly
> claiming the GPL to be some kind of evil cancer.
>
>
But the GPL is *designed* to be a
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 2:00 PM, mikshaw wrote:
>If you're stifling another person's freedoms, you're doing something bad.
"Not giving you stuff" is not stifling your freedom.
>They're free only up to the point when a dev decides to turn the code
>into a proprietary product...
At which point th
On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:54:18 +0200
Andreas Krennmair wrote:
>
> Primarily, the GPL balances freedom towards the agenda of the FSF and
> their specific interpretation of the term "freedom".
>
> -ak
>
Copyleft or not? This is never ending discussion, mostly ideological.
GPL has many others pro
- Original Message -
> From: Al Gest
> In the real world a person's freedoms are very much decided by their
> ability to obtain those freedoms. That might not fall in line with
> your moralistic ideologies, but it is reality.
>
> The GPL is nothing more than Richard Stallman's highly
> The GPL is nothing more than Richard Stallman's highly encumbered
> temper-tantrum against propriety software, it has almost nothing to do
> with true freedom.
Eloquently sums up my issue with the GPL itself as well as the FSF in
general.
On 23 October 2011 13:47, mikshaw wrote:
> Claiming a person's freedoms are decided by their ability to obtain those
> freedoms? Very wrong. Just as laws against slavery are there to balance the
> freedoms of all, GPL is there to balance the freedoms of all users & devs,
> present and future.
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:46:24 -, Stephen Paul Weber
wrote:
Somebody claiming to be mikshaw wrote:
As far as the cc-nd license RMS apparently prefers for his own audio, I
fully agree this is hypocritical and wrong.
Not to wade into a flametroll war, but for the record (in case there are
pe
So I guess that means no auto-tuned Richard Stallman huh?
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Stephen Paul Weber <
singpol...@singpolyma.net> wrote:
> Somebody claiming to be mikshaw wrote:
>
>> From: Kurt H Maier
>>
>>> only an idiot compares a software license to slavery.
>>>
>> As far as the
Somebody claiming to be mikshaw wrote:
From: Kurt H Maier
only an idiot compares a software license to slavery.
As far as the cc-nd license RMS apparently prefers for his own audio, I
fully agree this is hypocritical and wrong.
Not to wade into a flametroll war, but for the record (in case
On 10/24/11 at 10:30am, Kurt H Maier wrote:
>
> users don't give a shit about software licensing
>
I do.
>
> --
> # Kurt H Maier
>
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On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:26 AM, mikshaw wrote:
> GPL is, in my opinion, a very good balance between dev and user.
users don't give a shit about software licensing
--
# Kurt H Maier
From: Kurt H Maier
> only an idiot compares a software license to slavery.
It was not I who made, or agreed with, the original slavery comparison.
As far as the cc-nd license RMS apparently prefers for his own audio, I fully
agree this is hypocritical and wrong. I don't like some of the thin
I saw a beggar a few days ago and didn't give him any money - he
reminded me of RMS.
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Bjartur Thorlacius
wrote:
> I heard him ask recorders of a speech of his to license recordings
> under a no-derivs-allowed CC license this summer (in Fjölbrautaskólinn
> við Ármúla, Iceland).
Here's an example of some film of his under cc-by-nd:
http://whatisaclo
I heard him ask recorders of a speech of his to license recordings
under a no-derivs-allowed CC license this summer (in Fjölbrautaskólinn
við Ármúla, Iceland). These recordings tend to get lost and forgotten
in cutting, encoding and uploading. I'll try to see if this one got
online, and dig it up.
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Bjartur Thorlacius
wrote:
> I second that. Richard Stallman's love for cc-by-nd is enough proof
> that he is ready to err on the restricted side, instead of the free
> one.
Can you provide a proof link?
On 10/23/11, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> that is a load of pretentious, presumptuous shit, "mrblog," and nobody
> involved with the creation of the GPL is qualified to judge the needs
> of "all users & devs, present and future."
>
I second that. Richard Stallman's love for cc-by-nd is enough proof
that
fucking pussies around?
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 8:47 AM, mikshaw wrote:
> No.
>
> Claiming a person's freedoms are decided by their ability to obtain those
> freedoms? Very wrong. Just as laws against slavery are there to balance the
> freedoms of all, GPL is there to balance the freedoms of all users & devs,
> pres
* mikshaw [2011-10-23 14:50]:
Claiming a person's freedoms are decided by their ability to obtain those
freedoms? Very wrong. Just as laws against slavery are there to balance the
freedoms of all, GPL is there to balance the freedoms of all users & devs,
present and future.
Primarily, the
- Original Message -
From: Jakub Lach
To: dev mail list
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Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 4:11 AM
Subject: Re: [dev] Anti-GPL hipsters
Kurt H Maier :
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Stanley Lieber
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Claude Lelouch
I need a +1 button on Stanley's reply... :P
Excerpts from Stanley Lieber's message of 2011-10-20 20:32:46 -0400:
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Claude Lelouch
> wrote:
> > Why don't I have the freedom to own slaves?
>
> because you don't have the strength to take them.
>
> -sl
Kurt H Maier :
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Stanley Lieber
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Claude Lelouch
> > wrote:
> >> Why don't I have the freedom to own slaves?
> >
> > because you don't have the strength to take them.
> >
> > -sl
>
>
> this is the greatest email eve
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Stanley Lieber wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Claude Lelouch
> wrote:
> > Why don't I have the freedom to own slaves?
>
> because you don't have the strength to take them.
>
> -sl
>
>
Can we give this guy a medal or something?
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Stanley Lieber
wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Claude Lelouch
> wrote:
>> Why don't I have the freedom to own slaves?
>
> because you don't have the strength to take them.
>
> -sl
this is the greatest email ever sent to this list
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# Kurt H Maier
The gpl is slavery.
On Oct 20, 2011 8:09 PM, "Claude Lelouch" wrote:
> Why don't I have the freedom to own slaves?
>
>
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Claude Lelouch wrote:
> Why don't I have the freedom to own slaves?
because you don't have the strength to take them.
-sl
Why don't I have the freedom to own slaves?
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