Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-25 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 24 Feb 2010 at 22:53:05 PST Uriel wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Charlie Kester wrote: On Wed 24 Feb 2010 at 07:15:42 PST hiro wrote: It seems like this guy is just mocking wikipedia's notability guideline. After reading the discussion, I'm beginning to wonder about wikipedi

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-25 Thread Jacob Todd
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 01:52:58PM +0100, Sebastian Liem wrote: > Internet says you are Swedish. We are pretty 'awesome' bureaucrats too. > > -- Sebastian He's Italian, but I don't see how that matters. -- I am a man who does not exist for others. pgpULZAzNUTm5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-25 Thread Sebastian Liem
I (might) stand corrected. Maybe uriel is the avenging incarnation of KISS. Nationality is beneath him. -- Sebastian

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-25 Thread Aurélien Aptel
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:34 PM, markus schnalke wrote: > [2010-02-25 13:52] Sebastian Liem >> Uriel: >> > [...] >> >> Internet says you are Swedish. > > Wrong. It only says he lives in Sweden. > > See: >        Hometown: a small village in the mountains of a far away land. >        Origin: A per

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-25 Thread markus schnalke
[2010-02-25 13:52] Sebastian Liem > Uriel: > > [...] > > Internet says you are Swedish. Wrong. It only says he lives in Sweden. See: Hometown: a small village in the mountains of a far away land. Origin: A perpendicular universe. ;-) meillo

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-25 Thread Sebastian Liem
> The only thing that matters in wikipedia is your bureaucratic skills. > You Germans should be able to master it! > > uriel Internet says you are Swedish. We are pretty 'awesome' bureaucrats too. -- Sebastian

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread Uriel
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Wed 24 Feb 2010 at 07:15:42 PST hiro wrote: >> >> It seems like this guy is just mocking wikipedia's notability guideline. > > After reading the discussion, I'm beginning to wonder about wikipedia's > notability.   If it's not mentioned o

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread Jacob Todd
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 06:46:45PM -0500, Niki Yoshiuchi wrote: > I think we should try and get wikipedia to delete the article, then get some > well known and "reliable" source to write an article about how dwm was > removed from wikipedia thus making dwm notable. > That seems counter-intuitive.

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread Niki Yoshiuchi
I think we should try and get wikipedia to delete the article, then get some well known and "reliable" source to write an article about how dwm was removed from wikipedia thus making dwm notable. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:57 AM, wrote: > As you said, it is the first hit and it points to suckles

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread eze . programmer
As you said, it is the first hit and it points to suckless.org i could not care less about what an article on wikipedia says about dwm, if a potential user reads the article, as long as the reference link points to suckless.org its cool with me. "...and nothing of value was lost" On Wed, Feb 24,

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread Uriel
The only thing that matters in wikipedia is your bureaucratic skills. You Germans should be able to master it! uriel On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > Hi, > > someone pointed me to this: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Dwm#Dwm > > I wouldn'

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread hiro
So there is consensus. Perhaps we can edit that stupid wikipedia page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability On 2/24/10, Niki Yoshiuchi wrote: > That's actually my point - wikipedia is artificially enforcing notability so > we should artificially create notability.* > > *Not a serious

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread Niki Yoshiuchi
That's actually my point - wikipedia is artificially enforcing notability so we should artificially create notability.* *Not a serious suggestion. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Well, that's exactly the point. > Wikipedia is trying to artificially enforce

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread hiro
Well, that's exactly the point. Wikipedia is trying to artificially enforce notability, which is of course going to fail miserably... On 2/24/10, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Wed 24 Feb 2010 at 07:15:42 PST hiro wrote: >>It seems like this guy is just mocking wikipedia's notability guideline. > > A

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread hiro
not fixing any problem On 2/24/10, Niki Yoshiuchi wrote: > Maybe we should just lobby some "credible" tech blog and get them to make a > post about dwm. Problem solved. > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Jason Ryan wrote: > >> I doubt it will have any impact at all; but as it does appear >> d

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 24 Feb 2010 at 07:15:42 PST hiro wrote: It seems like this guy is just mocking wikipedia's notability guideline. After reading the discussion, I'm beginning to wonder about wikipedia's notability. If it's not mentioned on cat-v.org, it's not worth knowing about. ;) If wikipedia delet

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread Niki Yoshiuchi
Maybe we should just lobby some "credible" tech blog and get them to make a post about dwm. Problem solved. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Jason Ryan wrote: > I doubt it will have any impact at all; but as it does appear > discriminatory to me, I have posted a brief rant: > http://jasonwryan.

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread Jason Ryan
I doubt it will have any impact at all; but as it does appear discriminatory to me, I have posted a brief rant: http://jasonwryan.com/post/409379904/wikipedia Thayer Williams wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Jason Ryan wrote: It points to a deficiency in the way Wikipedia views nota

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread Thayer Williams
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Jason Ryan wrote: > It points to a deficiency in the way Wikipedia views notability: it is quite > at odds with the notion of influence and derivation that powers free and > open source software... Agreed. I said as much too. Under the current Wikipedia guidelin

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread hiro
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://www.linux.org.ru/forum/talks/4580222&rurl=translate.google.com > I wouldn't recommend to join that discussion there, such appeals > usually lead to the deletion. But perhaps someone has more links to > second party sources that might convi

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread hiro
It seems like this guy is just mocking wikipedia's notability guideline.

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
On 2/24/10, Jason Ryan wrote: > markus schnalke wrote: >> Maybe one should list all WMs that see dwm as their primary influence. > > It points to a deficiency in the way Wikipedia views notability: it is > quite at odds with the notion of influence and derivation that powers > free and open sourc

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread Jason Ryan
markus schnalke wrote: Maybe one should list all WMs that see dwm as their primary influence. Unfortunately, that has already been rejected (quite correctly under the definition of notability) as a valid criterion... It points to a deficiency in the way Wikipedia views notability: it is q

Re: [dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread markus schnalke
[2010-02-24 08:08] Anselm R Garbe > > someone pointed me to this: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Dwm#Dwm > > I wouldn't recommend to join that discussion there, such appeals > usually lead to the deletion. That does not surprise me, when you read the arguments

[dev] AfD discussion of dwm Wikipedia article

2010-02-24 Thread Anselm R Garbe
Hi, someone pointed me to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Dwm#Dwm I wouldn't recommend to join that discussion there, such appeals usually lead to the deletion. But perhaps someone has more links to second party sources that might convince them to keep the arti