Re: [dev] [OT] Java Hate

2010-01-02 Thread hiro
What does it matter that it runs on a vm? On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Andres P <97.56...@gmail.com> wrote: > Like ^ said, it basically runs on a vm. > > And it was inspired by C++. Going more into how C++ sucks would sadly > (gladly?) be OT. > >

Re: [dev] [OT] Java Hate

2010-01-02 Thread Andres P
Like ^ said, it basically runs on a vm. And it was inspired by C++. Going more into how C++ sucks would sadly (gladly?) be OT.

Re: [dev] [OT] Java Hate

2010-01-02 Thread Michael Roth
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:37:18PM -0600, Nathan Neff wrote: > Can anyone here at suckless summarize their dislike of Java? >From my perspective, Java is a lot like computer science masturbation. Rather than trust an electrical engineer to design a machine, they invented their own. Now every prog

Re: [dev] [OT] Java Hate

2009-11-19 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/11/19 Moritz Wilhelmy : > What about this one? > http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/en/why-not-use_java.xhtml That one disqualifies, it asks for more features apparently. Cheers, Anselm

Re: [dev] [OT] Java Hate

2009-11-19 Thread Moritz Wilhelmy
What about this one? http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/en/why-not-use_java.xhtml Moritz On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 02:09:30AM +0100, Uriel wrote: > I think Paul Graham's criticism's are much more relevant and timeless: > http://www.paulgraham.com/javacover.html > > In short, the real problems with java a

Re: [dev] [OT] Java Hate

2009-11-18 Thread Uriel
I think Paul Graham's criticism's are much more relevant and timeless: http://www.paulgraham.com/javacover.html In short, the real problems with java are inherent to its design motivation, and can't be fixed with new features, libraries or other such 'improvements' (actually in many ways the featu

Re: [dev] [OT] Java Hate

2009-11-18 Thread pancake
This is for Java 1.0.2 We are in 1.7 I wonder if those logical side effects are still there. On Nov 18, 2009, at 7:57 PM, "Michael P. Soulier" > wrote: On 18/11/09 Michael P. Soulier said: On 18/11/09 Uriel said: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/java And another http://www.cs.arizona.e

Re: [dev] [OT] Java Hate

2009-11-18 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 18/11/09 Michael P. Soulier said: > On 18/11/09 Uriel said: > > > http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/java And another http://www.cs.arizona.edu/projects/sumatra/hallofshame/ Mike -- Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of geniu

Re: [dev] [OT] Java Hate

2009-11-18 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 18/11/09 Uriel said: > http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/java Awesome. :) pgpL0Ur1PM2fk.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [dev] [OT] Java Hate

2009-11-17 Thread Uriel
http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/java A way to put it is: Java is a language designed for incompetent retards, so the result is an incompetent retarded language. uriel On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Nathan Neff wrote: > Can anyone here at suckless summarize their dislike of Java? > > I disli

[dev] [OT] Java Hate

2009-11-17 Thread Nathan Neff
Can anyone here at suckless summarize their dislike of Java? I dislike Java too, but wanted to hear other people's points. My dislike of Java is probably due to the over-complication of most Java code that I've seen -- mostly not due to the language itself. Any specific points about Java, and wh