Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-27 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Sat 28 Jan 2012 01:03:11 AM PST, s.s.albiz wrote: > Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network Sent by mistake? A silent protest against WMII or Ruby? Spam? -- We are governed not by armies and police but by ideas. -- Mona Caird, 1892

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-27 Thread s . s . albiz
Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network -Original Message- From: "Suraj N. Kurapati" Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 21:13:53 To: dev mail list Reply-To: dev mail list Cc: Subject: Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor On Sat 24 Dec 2011 12:13:04 PM PST, dtk wrot

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-19 Thread QUINTIN Guillaume
Hi, It was a long time ago. I just loooked at the code. I think it should work with a few changes. I do not use these layouts anymore. I first began with wmii, then dwm. I, of course, missed the wmii ``capabilities" so I wrote dwmii.c. But, with time, I realized that moving the windows from column

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-18 Thread dtk
On 01/08/2012 10:30 AM, John Matthewman wrote: > I would like a window manager that has wmii's acme-like window > management, but without the 9P filesystem, wmiir, support for > configuration via python, ruby, etc. > use dwm as a base to build upon +1 I imagine having a stacked layout + manual

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-08 Thread John Matthewman
On 1/9/12, Thomas Dahms wrote: > 2012/1/8 John Matthewman : >> I would like a window manager that has wmii's acme-like window >> management, but without the 9P filesystem, wmiir, support for >> configuration via python, ruby, etc. Trim the fat off of it (or >> perhaps it would be better to use dwm

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-08 Thread Thomas Dahms
2012/1/8 John Matthewman : > I would like a window manager that has wmii's acme-like window > management, but without the 9P filesystem, wmiir, support for > configuration via python, ruby, etc. Trim the fat off of it (or > perhaps it would be better to use dwm as a base to build upon, rather > tha

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-08 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Sun 08 Jan 2012 04:30:47 PM PST, John Matthewman wrote: > I would like a window manager that has wmii's acme-like window > management, but without the 9P filesystem, wmiir, support for > configuration via python, ruby, etc. Try i3, which was inspired by wmii: http://i3wm.org/ -- If something h

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-08 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 8 January 2012 10:30, John Matthewman wrote: > On 1/8/12, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >> Someone could implement a stacked mode patch for dwm based on two >> extra windows (similar to the dwm bar) per column -- wouldn't be too >> hard. > > I would like a window manager that has wmii's acme-like wind

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-08 Thread John Matthewman
On 1/8/12, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > Someone could implement a stacked mode patch for dwm based on two > extra windows (similar to the dwm bar) per column -- wouldn't be too > hard. I would like a window manager that has wmii's acme-like window management, but without the 9P filesystem, wmiir, supp

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-07 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 7 January 2012 20:21, wrote: > But for me, wmii's window managing is far better than dwm's one. I tried > dwm for eight weeks. Now back to wmii. I like the stagged mode at most. > I like window titles. I like columns. Someone could implement a stacked mode patch for dwm based on two extra win

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-07 Thread deb97
Am 22.12.2011 schrieb "Suraj N. Kurapati" : > On Thu 22 Dec 2011 04:36:55 PM PST, dtk wrote: > > I just cannot see how to do the stuff I feel I need with static > > layouts. And since I don't believe that manual layouts are what > > bloat wmii, I fail to understand why I cannot haz them :/ Worse,

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-07 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 05:50:06PM +, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > So long as you have the input state for those commands -- the files > themselves -- why must we log the output for each and every command? Error correction. > If we know the state of the directory, why log invocations of `ls`?

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-07 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 7 January 2012 17:26, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: > That's not enough. I want the output of all commands (messages, documents, > calculations, notes and error reports) to be stored on increasingly > mainstream terabyte disks along with enough metadata to uniquely identify > it. "Modification" is

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-07 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
Þann fim 5.jan 2012 23:12, skrifaði Connor Lane Smith: That's not inherent to GUIs, it just so happens that existing GUIs are extremely poorly made. It's not interaction which needs to be logged so much as the modification of persistent data -- files and such -- which could easily be logged by

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-05 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 11:12:44PM +, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > That's not inherent to GUIs, it just so happens that existing GUIs are > extremely poorly made. It's not interaction which needs to be logged > so much as the modification of persistent data -- files and such -- > which could easi

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-05 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 5 January 2012 14:19, David Tweed wrote: > I'm not aware of any way of either storing or, more importantly, > searching a user's interaction with the GUI apps on a computer system. That's not inherent to GUIs, it just so happens that existing GUIs are extremely poorly made. It's not inte

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-05 Thread David Tweed
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Patrick Haller <201009-suckl...@haller.ws> wrote: > On 2012-01-01 21:13, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: >> So I considered the trade-offs between SLOC minimalism, project and >> community activity, and my productivity in DWM vs. WMII and finally >> decided to switch back t

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-02 Thread hiro
You can also use du instead of cd;ls Overloading simple, old, standard commands is bad for my inflexible brain. The X11 stuff is way too difficult for me to care.

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-02 Thread Patrick Haller
On 2012-01-02 12:26, hiro wrote: > I don't understand how this is related to your quote? Suraj re-evaluated his toolset. I think the re-evaluation part is a good idea, however it seems you could spend too much time doing it. > You always execute ls when you cd to a different folder? in interacti

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-02 Thread hiro
I don't understand how this is related to your quote? You always execute ls when you cd to a different folder? On 02.01.2012, Patrick Haller <201009-suckl...@haller.ws> wrote: > On 2012-01-01 21:13, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: >> So I considered the trade-offs between SLOC minimalism, project and >>

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-01 Thread Patrick Haller
On 2012-01-01 21:13, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > So I considered the trade-offs between SLOC minimalism, project and > community activity, and my productivity in DWM vs. WMII and finally > decided to switch back to WMII (which I used since six years prior). How often do people re-evaluate their too

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-01 Thread David Kowis
On 01/01/2012 11:13 PM, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > Good point. After seeing people take SLOC minimalism further than > the suckless community's beloved DWM (c.f. MonsterWM), I realized > that it all came down to *choice* and that I actually had a choice. > > So I considered the trade-offs between

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2012-01-01 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Sat 24 Dec 2011 12:13:04 PM PST, dtk wrote: > On 12/22/2011 05:54 PM, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > > I'm another WMII expatriate and I'm still not completely used to > > DWM's lack of on-the-fly tag creation: especially when some new > > random task comes up and all of my tags are currently occupi

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-24 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On 12/24/11, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > I'm not sure a screenshot is necessary. It would just be a fullscreen > window. :p If you hide the status bar it's honestly *just* the window. And a border, telling you whether it is focused or not (assuming a non-zero borderpx).

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-24 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 24 December 2011 12:08, dtk wrote: > So, what's the policy here? All future development in patches, so we > don't spoil that fancy 2K SLOC statistic everybody is so fond of? :/ > *sceptic* Hah. :) We fold in popular patches, slowly, so dwm doesn't become all bloated and unstable. My personal v

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-24 Thread dtk
On 12/22/2011 05:32 PM, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > On Thu 22 Dec 2011 02:44:54 PM PST, dtk wrote: >> is there a way to have widgets in the status bar display images >> instead of utf8 symbols? > > I gave up on this approach for DWM and used dzen2 as my status bar > instead: https://github.com/sun

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-24 Thread dtk
On 12/22/2011 05:54 PM, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > On Thu 22 Dec 2011 04:36:55 PM PST, dtk wrote: >> I just cannot see how to do the stuff I feel I need with static >> layouts. And since I don't believe that manual layouts are what >> bloat wmii, I fail to understand why I cannot haz them :/ Worse,

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-24 Thread dtk
Hey cls, On 12/22/2011 04:57 PM, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > On 22 December 2011 16:36, dtk wrote: >> nope, 32 is aplenty. Thing is, in wmii I create them on demand and name >> them dynamically (to reflect their purpose), which conveniently groups >> them as well. I just don't want the tag I do de

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-23 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Fri 23 Dec 2011 10:24:54 AM PST, Jakub Lach wrote: > They work day to day in Gnome, then try to emulate it's insanity > in currently acceptable flavour of the month wm, then brag > on their home forum with screenshots (arch forum anyone?), > seeking peer approval. Touché! s/Gnome/wmii/ and yo

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-23 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 10:34:35 -, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: I kill dwm when I've placed all my windows correctly so I can save more RAM. I actually did that the other day, so I could GIMP my Christmas cards.

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-23 Thread Jakub Lach
Dnia 23 grudnia 2011 11:34 hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> napisał(a): > I kill dwm when I've placed all my windows correctly so I can save more RAM. > Everyone who wants more functionality than just placing his windows in > a perfect way once and for all is stupid. Words of wisdom! For ultimate RA

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-23 Thread hiro
I kill dwm when I've placed all my windows correctly so I can save more RAM. Everyone who wants more functionality than just placing his windows in a perfect way once and for all is stupid. On 23.12.2011, Jakub Lach wrote: > Dnia 22 grudnia 2011 16:53 Manolo Martínez > napisał(a): > >> The claim

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-23 Thread Jakub Lach
Dnia 22 grudnia 2011 16:53 Manolo Martínez napisał(a): > The claim is that when this people finish rewriting dwm then go write their > e-mails in > Gnome 3? > -- That's certainly possible, given compulsive behaviour of tweaking tweaks. They work day to day in Gnome, then try to emulate it's

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 02:52:28AM +0100, Florian Limberger wrote: > I know what you are displaying, I use a slightly modified version of > the status.sh script you posted once. Thanks though. That script in its current incarnation is about 1/10th the size it was when I posted it. > I know yo

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Florian Limberger
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 20:34:12 -0500, Kurt H Maier wrote: A one-letter prefix doesn't help you? b50% s70%? I don't even do that much. I used to just have it read, e.g., 50% 70% and I used my amazing pattern-recognition skills to discern that the battery life was mysteriously always first in tha

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 04:27:35PM +0100, Florian Limberger wrote: > then how do you distinguish the percentage of battery load and the > percentage of wifi signal strength? Sometimes, I don't care if wifi > signal quality is exactly 87% or 78%, It would suffice if I knew if it > is over 25%, 5

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Thu 22 Dec 2011 11:54:21 AM PST, Seth Hover wrote: > Is there a reason you're not just using awesome? Subjectively, I like C and Ruby better than Lua. Architecturally, I like that DWM is minimal, having a very limited statusbar, because I can use a better tool for the job (dzen2) or even go ov

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Seth Hover
whoops, I missed the [wmii] tag. Please ignore my last post. --sth On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Seth Hover wrote: > Is there a reason you're not just using awesome? > > -sth > > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > >> On Thu 22 Dec 2011 02:44:54 PM PST, dtk wrote: >

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Seth Hover
Is there a reason you're not just using awesome? -sth On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > On Thu 22 Dec 2011 02:44:54 PM PST, dtk wrote: > > is there a way to have widgets in the status bar display images > > instead of utf8 symbols? > > I gave up on this approach for DW

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Thu 22 Dec 2011 02:05:36 PM PST, Jacob Todd wrote: > On Dec 22, 2011 12:03 PM, "Suraj N. Kurapati" > wrote: > > Now that you mention it, I rarely use this feature because it's too > > coarse grained. For instance, I have tags pre-allocated for > > particular tasks so viewing more than one of t

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Jacob Todd
On Dec 22, 2011 12:03 PM, "Suraj N. Kurapati" wrote: > Now that you mention it, I rarely use this feature because it's too > coarse grained. For instance, I have tags pre-allocated for particular > tasks so viewing more than one of them simultaneously pulls in too many > unrelated clients into my

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Thu 22 Dec 2011 06:07:05 PM PST, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > On 22 December 2011 18:02, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > > Multi-tagging is cool and useful, but too coarse grained in DWM. > > I don't understand what you mean. In dwm a single client can have > multiple tags, and one can also view multip

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 22 December 2011 18:02, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > In contrast, WMII has fine-grained multi-tagging (a client can appear > on multiple views) so I would either (1) choose a client from dmenu to > pull into my current view or (2) go to the tag I want and multi-tag the > clients that I'm interest

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Thu 22 Dec 2011 04:57:24 PM PST, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > In dwm you can view multiple tags at the same time, which pulls all > clients with that tag into view. (Which is really amazing once you get > used to it. Other window managers just make me feel really > constrained.) Now that you ment

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Thu 22 Dec 2011 04:36:55 PM PST, dtk wrote: > I just cannot see how to do the stuff I feel I need with static > layouts. And since I don't believe that manual layouts are what > bloat wmii, I fail to understand why I cannot haz them :/ Worse, I > fail to see why I'm the only one who wants them *

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Thu 22 Dec 2011 02:44:54 PM PST, dtk wrote: > is there a way to have widgets in the status bar display images > instead of utf8 symbols? I gave up on this approach for DWM and used dzen2 as my status bar instead: https://github.com/sunaku/.dwm/blob/master/dwm-statusbar (Pictured at bottom of

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 22 December 2011 16:36, dtk wrote: > nope, 32 is aplenty. Thing is, in wmii I create them on demand and name > them dynamically (to reflect their purpose), which conveniently groups > them as well. I just don't want the tag I do development of project A on > to be on tag 5. Today. And on tag 6

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Stephen Paul Weber
Somebody claiming to be dtk wrote: This is why dwm has tags: just don't view the tags you aren't using. Like you say, tag clients according to their role, and then by definition those which are not being used needn't be seen. However, you may be interested in flextile [1]. wouldn't be used to l

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread dtk
On 12/22/2011 04:38 PM, Justin Pogue wrote: > Sidestepping the holy-war topic here, I'd like to point out that there > are plenty of status bars out there like tint2 and dzen2 that you > could use. k. Was just reluctant to integrate it. Redirecting all the information there. wmii's status bar basi

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 12/22/11 at 04:47pm, hiro wrote: > lol, people on suckless don't actually use their window managers, they > brag about it and rewrite it and rewrite it and rewrite it. It's more > of a hobby than a necessity for them. > The claim is that when this people finish rewriting dwm then go write their

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread dtk
On 12/22/2011 04:27 PM, Florian Limberger wrote: >> The general consensus is that sprinkling icons everywhere actually >> makes the interface far more complicated and distracting, and >> generally quite *bad*. While there *are* some exceptions where icons >> are more compact, they are rare. Yupp.

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread hiro
lol, people on suckless don't actually use their window managers, they brag about it and rewrite it and rewrite it and rewrite it. It's more of a hobby than a necessity for them.

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Florian Limberger
I just looked at the screenshot linked by the OP, and thats indeed wrong usage of icons, IMHO. I argued againts the wifi signal example, not for replacing descriptive names of applications with crappy logos without any expressivenes. How the fuck can a wolf represent an audio application? At le

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Justin Pogue
Sidestepping the holy-war topic here, I'd like to point out that there are plenty of status bars out there like tint2 and dzen2 that you could use. I've even heard of people using DWM in conjunction with xfce-panel. A patch to add the same functionality that one of these examples already does ver

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread dtk
Hey, thx for your quick response! On 12/22/2011 03:49 PM, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > On 22 December 2011 15:35, dtk wrote: >> I tag clients according to the topic they deal with (yess, I have >> *several* Firefox windows open on different tags at any given point in >> time -.-), which is why sta

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Florian Limberger
Hello, The general consensus is that sprinkling icons everywhere actually makes the interface far more complicated and distracting, and generally quite *bad*. While there *are* some exceptions where icons are more compact, they are rare. Consider the meter widgets people are obsessed with putti

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 22 December 2011 14:44, dtk wrote: > I just saw it > yesterday in awesome[0] and think it was a pretty neat feature to > display information in a compact yet intuitive way. The general consensus is that sprinkling icons everywhere actually makes the interface far more complicated and dis

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 22 December 2011 15:35, dtk wrote: > I tag clients according to the topic they deal with (yess, I have > *several* Firefox windows open on different tags at any given point in > time -.-), which is why static tagging with a predefined number of tags > works really really bad for me :/ Th

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread dtk
On 12/22/2011 02:49 PM, hiro wrote: > What are widgets? Encapsulated, reusable functionality that displays information in the status bar. Whole onmouseover thing and such... dtk

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-12-22 Thread dtk
On 11/15/2011 06:59 AM, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > On Thu 10 Nov 2011 09:29:53 PM PST, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >> wmii is cursed. Its code base has grown by factor 3 or 4 in terms >> of SLOC, whereas its functionality has stalled. > > Thanks Anselm. I think I've held on to the past for too long, an

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:44:54 -, dtk wrote: is there a way to have widgets in the status bar display images instead of utf8 symbols? s/(image|symbol)/glyph/g Modify your font. There are patches either on the website or on the Archlinux Forums that modify dwm to use more powerful font rend

Re: [dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread hiro
What are widgets?

[dev] [wmii] widgets with graphics?

2011-12-22 Thread dtk
Hey guys, is there a way to have widgets in the status bar display images instead of utf8 symbols? I know it's a question of philosophy whether you'll want that (and will therefore inevitably spawn holy flame wars ;)), but I just saw it yesterday in awesome[0] and think it was a pretty neat featu

Re: [dev] [wmii] Dualhead + tiling

2011-11-20 Thread Jonas H.
On 11/14/2011 11:34 PM, Justin Pogue wrote: On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Jonas H. wrote: Hi folks! Is it possible to use tiling w/ dualhead? i.e. have a separate tiling area on each monitor - so that if you move a window from monitor 0 to monitor 1 in floating mode and then move it to the

Re: [dev] [wmii] Dualhead + tiling

2011-11-15 Thread Thomas Dahms
2011/11/15 Jonas H. : > > What's that "Xinerama support" that came with 3.9 then? It is Xinerama. One view just includes both monitors. That is different from dwm and other window managers, but not necessarily worse. -- Thomas Dahms

Re: [dev] [wmii] Dualhead + tiling

2011-11-15 Thread Jonas H.
On 11/15/2011 09:32 AM, Thomas Dahms wrote: wmii spans the tiling area over all monitors, but managed columns end at screen boundaries. What's that "Xinerama support" that came with 3.9 then?

Re: [dev] [wmii] Dualhead + tiling

2011-11-15 Thread Thomas Dahms
2011/11/14 Jonas H. : > Is it possible to use tiling w/ dualhead? i.e. have a separate tiling area > on each monitor - so that if you move a window from monitor 0 to monitor 1 > in floating mode and then move it to the tiling layer, it stays on monitor > 1.  (The way it works for my setup right now

Re: [dev] wmii falling out of favor

2011-11-14 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Thu 10 Nov 2011 09:29:53 PM PST, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > wmii is cursed. Its code base has grown by factor 3 or 4 in terms > of SLOC, whereas its functionality has stalled. Thanks Anselm. I think I've held on to the past for too long, and avoided DWM mainly out of disinterest in C. However, a

Re: [dev] [wmii] Dualhead + tiling

2011-11-14 Thread Justin Pogue
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Jonas H. wrote: > Hi folks! > > Is it possible to use tiling w/ dualhead? i.e. have a separate tiling area > on each monitor - so that if you move a window from monitor 0 to monitor 1 > in floating mode and then move it to the tiling layer, it stays on monitor > 1.

[dev] [wmii] Dualhead + tiling

2011-11-14 Thread Jonas H.
Hi folks! Is it possible to use tiling w/ dualhead? i.e. have a separate tiling area on each monitor - so that if you move a window from monitor 0 to monitor 1 in floating mode and then move it to the tiling layer, it stays on monitor 1. (The way it works for my setup right now is that it's

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-11 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:36 AM, David Tweed wrote: > My view is that the plan 9 technologies are attractive if and only if > they're used everywhere: if a pseudo-filesystem interface was > pervasive it would avoid the "learn another new language/technology > tricks/etc for this task" and the prob

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-11 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On 11 Nov 2011 04:30, "Anselm R Garbe" wrote: > > On 8 November 2011 07:28, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > > > And how is "modern" wmii different from its, let's say, "pre-modern" > > phase? From my view, it still uses the Plan9 protocol and the Plan9 > > approach of exposing a virtual filesystem fo

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-11 Thread David Tweed
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > On 08/11/2011, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: >> I thought Suckless folks were enthusiastic about Plan9 technologies; >> has this changed?  If so, why? > > Appreciative, not necessarily enthusiastic. Plan 9 technologies have > their place, but

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-10 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 8 November 2011 07:28, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > On Thu 03 Nov 2011 09:57:19 AM PDT, Kurt H Maier wrote: >> There is nothing "suckless" about any aspect of modern wmii > > I thought Suckless folks were enthusiastic about Plan9 technologies; > has this changed?  If so, why? The overall concept

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-08 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 08/11/2011, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > I thought Suckless folks were enthusiastic about Plan9 technologies; > has this changed? If so, why? Appreciative, not necessarily enthusiastic. Plan 9 technologies have their place, but it's very tempting to use them everywhere. I don't believe 9P

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-07 Thread Hadrian Węgrzynowski
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 22:28:59 -0800 "Suraj N. Kurapati" wrote: >On Thu 03 Nov 2011 09:57:19 AM PDT, Kurt H Maier wrote: >> There is nothing "suckless" about any aspect of modern wmii > >I thought Suckless folks were enthusiastic about Plan9 technologies; >has this changed? If so, why? > >And how i

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-07 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Thu 03 Nov 2011 09:57:19 AM PDT, Kurt H Maier wrote: > There is nothing "suckless" about any aspect of modern wmii I thought Suckless folks were enthusiastic about Plan9 technologies; has this changed? If so, why? And how is "modern" wmii different from its, let's say, "pre-modern" phase? Fr

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-07 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim > wrote: > > hm. I see. So your argument was to disown wmii, because this *specific* > > configuration - and NOT wmii itself - requires ruby. Alright. > > No, I want to disown wmii because it's

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-03 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 3 November 2011 02:23, Kurt H Maier wrote: > Any word on a timetable for disowning wmii?  This is a four-hundred > line configuration that requires a 1600-line library, not to mention > an entire extra programming language. > > To manage x11 windows. I'm in the process arranging and performing

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-03 Thread Andrew Hills
I think you misunderstand. While he may wish that no user again uses wmii, that is not what he has stated here. His stated wish is wmii's removal from suckless.org because it does not meet suckless standards. --Andrew Hills

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-03 Thread hiro
Yeah, and C engendered Java. Just use your own "configuration" if you don't like it. And an older version of wmii if you don't like change.

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-03 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote: > hm. I see. So your argument was to disown wmii, because this *specific* > configuration - and NOT wmii itself - requires ruby. Alright. No, I want to disown wmii because it's a bloated >30ksloc monstrosity that engenders other lesser monst

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-03 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim > wrote: > > what does that even mean? wmii *requires* ruby? Never heard of that. > > This configuration requires ruby. Try to keep up. > > hm. I see. So your argument was to disown wmii, beca

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-03 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote: > what does that even mean? wmii *requires* ruby? Never heard of that. This configuration requires ruby. Try to keep up. -- # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-02 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > Anselm, > > Any word on a timetable for disowning wmii? This is a four-hundred > line configuration that requires a 1600-line library, not to mention > an entire extra programming language. > > To manage x11 windows. > > what does that even m

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-02 Thread Brad Ediger
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > Hello, > > For those who were weary of my Ruby wmiirc[1]'s power consumption, > I am happy to announce that the latest Ruby 1.9.3-p0 stable release > has solved Ruby's problem of causing excessive CPU wakeups-from-idle Indeed it has. I ha

Re: [dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-02 Thread Kurt H Maier
Anselm, Any word on a timetable for disowning wmii? This is a four-hundred line configuration that requires a 1600-line library, not to mention an entire extra programming language. To manage x11 windows. -- # Kurt H Maier

[dev] wmii + ruby 1.9.3 = no power woes!

2011-11-02 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
Hello, For those who were weary of my Ruby wmiirc[1]'s power consumption, I am happy to announce that the latest Ruby 1.9.3-p0 stable release has solved Ruby's problem of causing excessive CPU wakeups-from-idle which would drain your laptop battery much sooner than you'd expect. On my ASUS UL30A-

Re: [dev] wmii keyboard shortcut issues

2011-09-01 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
Þann fim 1.sep 2011 17:42, skrifaði Benjamin Cathey: Okay so then they are apparently different, regardless of the keycode give by `xev` I ran xev on my system, and it reported different keycodes and keysyms, but equivalent XLookupString results. I don't speak wmiirc, but I'm happy if I was a

Re: [dev] wmii keyboard shortcut issues

2011-09-01 Thread Benjamin Cathey
Okay so then they are apparently different, regardless of the keycode give by `xev` That's fine - however what would I use in my wmiirc to define the difference? Would it be: Key $MODKEY-Control-KP0 ? --- Actually it looks like it would be $MODKEY-Control-KP_0 Thanks for your help! B On

Re: [dev] wmii keyboard shortcut issues

2011-09-01 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
Þann mið 31.ágú 2011 23:36, skrifaði Benjamin Cathey: I recently added a few new key combinations and I am having issues and I am not quite sure why. I am attempting to use the number keys in the numeric keypad and it simply is not working. The combinations work with the regular number keys howe

Re: [dev] wmii keyboard shortcut issues

2011-08-31 Thread Benjamin Cathey
Looks like this did send twice. Also I accidentally included $MODKEY-Control-l which does work. It's the numbers that do not work (only the numeric pad) as I mentioned Thanks again Benjamin On 08/31/2011 07:36 PM, Benjamin Cathey wrote: I recently added a few new key combinations and I am

[dev] wmii keyboard shortcut issues

2011-08-31 Thread Benjamin Cathey
I recently added a few new key combinations and I am having issues and I am not quite sure why. I am attempting to use the number keys in the numeric keypad and it simply is not working. The combinations work with the regular number keys however not with those on the keypad. Using xev it loo

[dev] wmii keyboard shortcut issues

2011-08-31 Thread Benjamin Cathey
Sorry if this is a repost - I had mail client fail so I am not sure if the send completed. I recently added a few new key combinations and I am having issues and I am not quite sure why. I am attempting to use the number keys in the numeric keypad and it simply is not working. The combinati

Re: [dev] [wmii] modkey-2 misbehaving on dvorak keyboard after a change in wmiirc_local

2011-08-26 Thread Andrew Hills
"twosuperior" isn't a key on US keyboards, and pressing Alt-2 injects it in many applications. It is possible that it is confusing Alt-2 with your literal twosuperior. Just a thought--I'm not an expert. --Andrew Hills On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Mr. Bougs wrote: > Hello, > > I'm running w

[dev] [wmii] modkey-2 misbehaving on dvorak keyboard after a change in wmiirc_local

2011-08-26 Thread Mr. Bougs
Hello, I'm running wmii's hg tip (rev 2788). I just experienced a strange behaviour with the specific shortcut $MODKEY-2 after switching from the be (azerty) to the us dvorak-intl xkb layout. When using that shortcut, the current window seems to lose focus (the title bar stays highlighted). W

Re: [dev] [wmii] window titlebar right-click menu - item order

2011-08-24 Thread Gidon Ernst
On 08/24/2011 01:20 AM, orlando wrote: All you have to do is rename "Delete" to "Close" and close should appear at the top of the menu. Thank you, that did it.

Re: [dev] [wmii] window titlebar right-click menu - item order

2011-08-23 Thread orlando
All you have to do is rename "Delete" to "Close" and close should appear at the top of the menu. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Gidon Ernst < er...@informatik.uni-augsburg.de> wrote: > Hi, > > recently the order of items >[Delete, Kill, Fullscreen] > in the menu that appears when right-c

Re: [dev] [wmii] window titlebar right-click menu - item order

2011-08-11 Thread Gidon Ernst
[...], so Close could go at (or near) the top of the menu and Kill at the bottom. Yeah that's what I want. How can you configure this?

Re: [dev] [wmii] Flash in fullscreen regularly freezes screen

2011-08-11 Thread dtk
On 05.08.2011 16:24, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:39:23 +0200 > Eckehard Berns wrote: > >> I also have encountered freezes with fullscreen flash video playback (I >> haven't tested something other than youtube). I noticed that I didn't >> encounter those freezes when using c

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